1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

If all this trade up smoke is real, I'm almost thinking just trading back is better. Even if you can get in the teens the cost will be higher than usual for prospects less valuable than usual.

Yup.  

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

If you think Mims has the potential to be a perennial all-pro, then you make the pick. Seems like everyone agrees that he has the highest ceiling among the OTs. 

I don't.   Giant OL have a pretty big miss rate.   Evan Neal.  Becton.   Teams really seem to want big OL, and will overpay for them,  and sometimes they work, and sometimes they don't.

Want a giant OL?  Giovanni Manu - British Columbia - UDFA. 

Just draft a RT (if need be) when Lane retires.   Lane himself was a 1st round pick who started week 1 of year 1. 

Right Tackle is not some extra special position that need extra special treatment.

The Eagles lost 2 Right Guards - Opeta went away,  and Jurgens is going, as planned, to Center.   The Eagles need a Right Guard.  But they have Steen so they need a backup Right Guard.   Do the Eagles say "we have so many below average CBs,  we don't need a great one,  what we really need is a super expensive backup RG so if one of the Tackles gets hurt,  Steen moves to Tackle and super expensive backup RG moves into RG (unless Hennessy moves to RG).  

Raw Day 3 project OT with high RAS.   Tylan Grable.    There are other raw day 3 project OTs with high RAS other than Tylan Grable.   Some mention Frank Crum.   There are even more than that.  Super giant, raw, udfa Giovanni Manu. 

Right Guard.   All American,  3rd team,  Right Guard,  2 years in a row.  Connecticut Christian Haynes.  All American 1st team (or 2nd)  Zak Zinter.  Both actually played Right Guard,  so you'd have to think they'd be able to play Right Guard.  The Eagles are -2 at Right Guard,  so some type of RG is necessary,  but not with a 1st round pick.

RG - rounds 2,3,4 - Haynes or Zinter.  Might have to play this year.  Steen is starter and also swing tackle.  If Steen is needed as tackle,  either Hennessy or new guy plays RG.

Swing Tackle - rounds 5,6,7 - Tylan Grable,  Frank Crum,  or similar.  Steen moves to OT in case of OT injury,  these guys wouldn't be expected to play this year.

Another Swing Tackle - UDFA - Giovanni Manu.  He's the Canadian version of Mailata/Mims.   Needs more work than Grable does,  but is a giant, and teams are overdrafting mammoth OTs like crazy these days.

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I don't think I'd be disappointed with any of the OL or CB prospects except maybe DeJean. Every one of them could have an impact in 2024.

Still can't quite understand how people have such a low grade on one of the safest 1st round picks. DeJean can play S, nickel, and boundary. SMH

43 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

Wow.  Visionary. 

Okay Howie.  Time to shine.

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

If all this trade up smoke is real, I'm almost thinking just trading back is better. Even if you can get in the teens the cost will be higher than usual for prospects less valuable than usual.

You're going to get Latu, and he'll have to be medically retired again before the 2024 season.  The EMB will be very understanding and say "these things happen"

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

If all this trade up smoke is real, I'm almost thinking just trading back is better. Even if you can get in the teens the cost will be higher than usual for prospects less valuable than usual.

I said it earlier I definitely agree with this assessment.

I would trade back somewhere in the late 20s if you have a buyer and draft a WR, DT, CB, or Edge in the late first round which there will be players that can make an impact even year one in those positions. If all these offensive lineman are moving up the boards it's pushing other positions back

I would definitely want to keep the two second round picks and maybe add an additional day two pick. I'd love to see them get Cooper Beebee oline and Edgerrin Cooper at linebacker in day 2.

1 hour ago, T-1000 said:

He's not quite as athletic but he's got some Dickerson in him with the size and nasty. If they want to make up for Kelce retiring and help out Jurgens surrounding him with two big maulers like Dickerson and Fuaga would be pretty nice.

Fuaga is a Right Tackle.  Didn't play Right Guard.   People call him a Guard,  I think it has something to do with arm size.  Somebody thinks they can just more OL around based on what they think

Christian Haynes - All American Right Guard 2 years in a row.  3rd team.  Size wise,  roughly similar. Shorter.  Both have good ras.  2nd or 3rd round for Haynes.   

8 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Still can't quite understand how people have such a low grade on one of the safest 1st round picks. DeJean can play S, nickel, and boundary. SMH

No one really listens to him cause he's mostly wrong

On Fox Sports Speak just now they were taking about Caleb Williams' emotional stuff and if it's a problem or not. McCoy and Acho were going back and forth and ended up talking about being in a locker room together and how a few "well paid guys in the corner who controlled the music" in that room would have had serious problems with their QB acting like that. Any guesses who they're talking about?

1 hour ago, mikemack8 said:

LOL no way - Carter to the Eagles had a TON of noise 

disagree.   some noise maybe.  much more noise for Nolan Smith.

 

Just now, Random Reglar said:

OL has 3 great starters.

CB has ??? starters.

I'd go with none last year.

The Eagles need an upgrade at Starting Cornerback.  Or maybe formerly great CBs will be great again, or something,  but none of the CBs last year were great.  Or even very good.  Slay was best, and was slightly above average.

At OL,  3 greats,  a top draft pick who has been waiting for Kelce to go,  and a 3rd round pick who has been waiting for Kelce to go, and then for Jurgens to move from RG to C.  The Eagles do need 2 backups,  to remain backups for who knows how long.

Last year, the Eagles had a lot of below average CBs.    look at the PFFs.  The only bad or terrible players on the Eagles defense were playing CB.   People say "look there" or "look over there" for bad playing, but it was all CB.  It could be that approximately average Ringo becomes good or great. But there is a large basket of below average, bad or terrible at CB.

The OL needs 2 warm bodies.  Hey, might as well be good but no reason to spend a first.

The CB has nobody very good or great.   But a whole lot of warm bodies are there, not playing well.   I don't like what the Eagles have done this offseason regarding CB.  The problem wasn't "not enough below average players" and the Eagles acted like it was, bringing in new/old players like Maddox who were not good last year.

 

So Mims? 

1 minute ago, Random Reglar said:

disagree.   some noise maybe.  much more noise for Nolan Smith.

 

Dude.  Take the L.

 

5 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

Fuaga is a Right Tackle.  Didn't play Right Guard.   People call him a Guard,  I think it has something to do with arm size.  Somebody thinks they can just more OL around based on what they think

Christian Haynes - All American Right Guard 2 years in a row.  3rd team.  Size wise,  roughly similar. Shorter.  Both have good ras.  2nd or 3rd round for Haynes.   

College OTs move to OG in the NFL all the time.  It's nothing new.

1 hour ago, T-1000 said:

Um.....bro......everyone was saying they would draft him if he fell and might even move up a few spots for him.

I've noticed that Eagles fans often like to pretend that they had the answer all along,  when actually that's just all made up, and it came as a big surprise.

This year,  there is no consensus here for anything.  Last year,  there was much more consensus for Nolan Smith.   The closest thing to a consensus is that there are a large number of people who think that a good CB will be available at 22, probably.  But there are others who would like to spend as much as possible on a OT who won't be playing for at least 2 or 3 years.  The CB people outnumber the OT people,  but not by so much that it could be seen as a consensus.

46 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Someone look it up for me.  This will be Lane’s age 34 season.

How many OTs have played at a very high level at age 35 and 36?  

Granted, Lane is better and more talented than 99% of NFL OTs.  But there are plenty of other perennial all pro guys over the last 20 years.

What’s the list of best age 35 and age 36 seasons from OTs over the last 20 years???  If it’s a good list, don’t rush it with drafting Lane’s replacement.  If it’s not…well…do the math.

Jackie Slater

1 hour ago, Random Reglar said:

the consensus was that we wanted Nolan Smith, and no one was talking about Carter.

Why are you even here? You're not even a true Eagles fan

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

Jackie Slater

The OG old OT in the NFL.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

 

Makes sense.  Aiyuk isn't long for SF and Deebo is always fighting off some kind of injury. 

Probably the Chargers.

Just now, hukdonfoniks said:

Makes sense.  Aiyuk isn't long for SF and Deebo is always fighting off some kind of injury. 

Probably the Chargers.

Neither one is near worth a top 10 pick.  Would need to be part of a larger deal.

Why does everyone think Fuaga isn't athletic enough.  Here is his RAS for OT compared to the guy who just signed the biggest deal ever for a tackle

1 minute ago, hukdonfoniks said:

Makes sense.  Aiyuk isn't long for SF and Deebo is always fighting off some kind of injury. 

Probably the Chargers.

Nah. Marvin Harrison Jr > both them. 

Titans or Jets maybe

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Neither one is near worth a top 10 pick.  Would need to be part of a larger deal.

For sure they'd have to package picks.  Aiyuk, 31, 63 most likely would be the package.  SF has a bunch of 4th's they could pivot to if they went nuts on a big trade up.

Fuaga is athletic. Just not the raw physical athlete and specimen Mims and Fautanu are IMO.