25 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I basically did the same. They just try to dramatize every little freaking thing. I haven’t enjoyed watching the draft since Gruden was doing it for ESPN (he was great for tv)

The 6ers being on helped; ‘missing’ the first 15 picks worked out fine for me. 

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

Interesting thought. Not sure if pay a 2nd straight up but I get the concept. 

Paying a 2nd would be an overpay.  He was a 2nd round pick in last year's draft... and disappointed.   There's no way you'd offer a 2nd round pick for him straight up.   Maybe offer 53, and get back their 3rd... that would be roughly a 3rd round value.   Frankly, even that is a bit of an overpay.   But, paying either #50 or #53, for a guy who went #35 last year and was disappointing is a massive overpay.   

4 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

I do think they were torn there. Arnold has the personality and Saban spoke very highly of Arnold, the Eagles love to add guys like this to the team. But his mediocre measurables and speed, I think that's what edged Mitchell over Arnold.  

5 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

In the minority but I thought the Penix pick for the Falcons was great. I don’t watch much college football anymore but this guy has been one of my favorite players over the last two seasons. He looks like a bigger, stronger Tua to me. 

Penix is a great pick but not for the team that gave Cousins a huge free agent deal. 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Penix is a great pick but not for the team that gave Cousins a huge free agent deal. 

atlanta fans rn (ri nao):

Just now, greendestiny27 said:

I do think they were torn there. Arnold has the personality and Saban spoke very highly of Arnold, the Eagles love to add guys like this to the team. But his mediocre measurables and speed, I think that's what edged Mitchell over Arnold.  

I agree.   And early on, I think we will see Arnold come out of the gate fast and look like the better pick.  But, that's for a simple reason, he had better coaching.  Alabama DBs come in with a lot of good technique.   He has an extremely high floor.  But, he doesn't have the same ceiling as Mitchell.  

Mitchell, on the other hand, got by a lot on pure athleticism in a weaker conference.   Once he learns the techniques, he will be able to reach his ceiling, which is slightly higher than Arnold.   Mitchell has a slightly lower floor than Arnold.    It was a bit of a riskier move to go with Mitchell over Arnold, but I like the risk reward assessment.

21 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

People are saying trade back today but what players left will be worthy of trading up for in the 50s? Which guys left are plug and play starters or have really high ceilings? 

DeJean, Suamateia, Haynes, McConkey are all guys I would trade up for. 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Penix is a great pick but not for the team that gave Cousins a huge free agent deal. 

If OAK traded up to 8… yeah, I don’t understand the logic behind not trading back.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I agree.   And early on, I think we will see Arnold come out of the gate fast and look like the better pick.  But, that's for a simple reason, he had better coaching.  Alabama DBs come in with a lot of good technique.   He has an extremely high floor.  But, he doesn't have the same ceiling as Mitchell.  

Mitchell, on the other hand, got by a lot on pure athleticism in a weaker conference.   Once he learns the techniques, he will be able to reach his ceiling, which is slightly higher than Arnold.   Mitchell has a slightly lower floor than Arnold.    It was a bit of a riskier move to go with Mitchell over Arnold, but I like the risk reward assessment.

I think 40 times are overrated for most positions but at CB I definitely would go with the faster player

29 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

JMO…

The nfl draft started out as an incredible niche event for hardcore football fans and armchair GMs.

It has officially been stretched out, drawn out, and oversold into an absolutely brutal spectacle.  I think I’d rather watch the Oscars with my wife.

I followed this draft on my phone with the blog and the ticker and it was unquestionably better than watching.  Did the same thing last year and I’m never looking back.

When it was all on one day, the coverage was much more interesting. We also didn't have the internet back in the day, so the coverage was where the highlights were. They used to talk about the current pick. Now, whoever we choose to watch starting today will keep circling back to yesterday's old news that, thanks to the internet, we've already had our fill of. I can't stand seeing live draft interviews that could have been done on social media instead of the draft coverage. "Six players have been picked since our last update and this other team is on the clock ... let's ask another team's beat reporter about his thoughts on Caleb Williams' green room outfit."

"Reading the New York Jets' pick #72, we present to you the Transgender Hermaphrodite Coed Flag Football League's 7-8 year-old championship runner up team ..."

Sometimes in life, you get gifts that you never thought were possible. Mitchell falling to 22 is one such. They must have been pinching each other in the draft room with some of the picks from teams above them.  Mitchell is falling and may get him by staying at 22?   I’m glad they didn’t overthink it and draft OL.  Love the pick - a CB in round 1

As for the rest.  Are the Falcons inbred or something?  Pay Cousins in FA and then draft Penix high; value aside, they picked at 8 for a reason last year.  It’s Al Davis type drafting.  The Broncos drafting Nix…. LOL, that was desperation

Having those 2 2nd rounders is a big thing.  Don't waste them Howie

 

Positions I still really want but only 50 & 53 left. Maybe trade back with one of these picks and try and snag some more ammo? Maybe a trade for an established player? Signing Simmons would be a-ok by me, but the smoke was neither wanted to team up again. I do covet DeJean at this stage, but not sure if I want to sacrifice everything to get the one player.  

RG ; LB ; S ; DE ; then RB (Marshawn Lloyd)  could even take another versatile CB...

LB or Lineman (either side) coming today

17 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Penix is a great pick but not for the team that gave Cousins a huge free agent deal. 

Cousins will be the starter for 1, maybe 2 seasons. Who cares about the deal. Everyone knows Cousins wasn’t going to be a long term starter and they know you aren’t winning a championship with him. 

14 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

DeJean, Suamateia, Haynes, McConkey are all guys I would trade up for. 

Houston looks like a good team to trade with. They have 2 2nds a 3rd, 24ths 2 6ths, 2 7ths

We can give both of our seconds to get up to  pick 10 (42). For their 2nd and 3rd. Theyd end up with 3 2nds. They had no 1st rounder. Thatd be a nice position. They can even likely flip one of them for a 1 next year.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t like the value coming up in round 2.

The board broke really, really well for us and gave us incredible value at 22.  The players I expect to be around for our 2nd round picks are guys that I think belong in the 3rd round.  That’s where the depth of this draft starts to hurt.

I didn’t want to trade down out of 22, but I would look to move one or both of these 2nd round picks.

The Eagles have addressed a lot of needs this offseason.  Next year, we won’t have the same resources to get after it.  I’d love to see us roll those 2’s into next year.

I'd be very interested in trading both 50 and 53 to get to the top of the 2nd and get a 3rd back.

50 and 53 have a value of 770. The Panthers pick at 39 and 65, which has a value of 775. Pick 65 is the 1st pick of the 3rd round so that alone could have even more trade down value. Of course, the Panthers have to want to make a trade too but I'd be poking around trying to find someone at the top of the 2nd. 

16 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

DeJean, Suamateia, Haynes, McConkey are all guys I would trade up for. 

my list would be DeJean, McKinstry, McConkey and Newton. Maybe a guard like Powers-Johnson, or Haynes if they like them enough.

I wonder how far AD Mitchell will fall, and if the eagles still have him on their board.

1 hour ago, DeathByEagle said:

No idea what board you are looking at. You have projected 1st rounds still on the board pushing better players to us that would have gone earlier in the second.

Thrilled with this second round board right now.  

Mckonkey, dejean, kingsley

Think Zinter will go before tonight is over

 

8 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

They must have been pinching each other in the draft room with some of the picks from teams above them. 

 

Nick slapped Howie on the asscheeks, aggressively. Howie acted like he didn’t notice, but we did.

58 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

JMO…

The nfl draft started out as an incredible niche event for hardcore football fans and armchair GMs.

It has officially been stretched out, drawn out, and oversold into an absolutely brutal spectacle.  I think I’d rather watch the Oscars with my wife.

I followed this draft on my phone with the blog and the ticker and it was unquestionably better than watching.  Did the same thing last year and I’m never looking back.

I usually post about this every draft, but man I really miss the weekend draft. We would BBQ for the weekend, plan our spring yard clean up around the draft and then just watch it all. There was nothing like doing all of our chores on Saturday morning knowing that we had hours of draft coverage to watch as we relax. Great food, multiple draft magazines and really good coverage from limited sources on TV.

I hate how it is now. The 1st round isn't even immune to the garbage now. We used to at least know that the 1st round was no frills. Commissioner comes out and announces the pick, highlights are shown, move on. Now there are speeches, special location messages and endless crap. It's horrible. I was glued to the boards last night. Put the draft coverage on when the Eagles pick was up and that was it. Sucks what they've turned it in to.

45 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

People are saying trade back today but what players left will be worthy of trading up for in the 50s? Which guys left are plug and play starters or have really high ceilings? 

I know his name has been beaten to death, but Cooper DeJean is a perfect trade up candidate. He's a Swiss Army Knife that could play all over as a rookie and then settle in as CB2 in a year or two. 

45 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Interesting thought. Not sure if pay a 2nd straight up but I get the concept. 

Yep, said this last night. Mayer has all the tools to be an elite, complete TE in the NFL. 

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I usually post about this every draft, but man I really miss the weekend draft. We would BBQ for the weekend, plan our spring yard clean up around the draft and then just watch it all. There was nothing like doing all of our chores on Saturday morning knowing that we had hours of draft coverage to watch as we relax. Great food, multiple draft magazines and really good coverage from limited sources on TV.

I hate how it is now. The 1st round isn't even immune to the garbage now. We used to at least know that the 1st round was no frills. Commissioner comes out and announces the pick, highlights are shown, move on. Now there are speeches, special location messages and endless crap. It's horrible. I was glued to the boards last night. Put the draft coverage on when the Eagles pick was up and that was it. Sucks what they've turned it in to.

Same. I used to do a "tailgate” all weekend at my house and grill and whatnot. All the neighbors knew they could stop by anytime to catchup on the draft and eat

7 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Cousins will be the starter for 1, maybe 2 seasons. Who cares about the deal. Everyone knows Cousins wasn’t going to be a long term starter and they know you aren’t winning a championship with him. 

The pick just feels flacid. Penix will get no action for quite a long time. 

29 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

I do think they were torn there. Arnold has the personality and Saban spoke very highly of Arnold, the Eagles love to add guys like this to the team. But his mediocre measurables and speed, I think that's what edged Mitchell over Arnold.  

Mitchell has elite recovery speed and that was difference in my opinion