10 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

 

 

The irony was that Penix played 6 years in college. He had arguably the best (or second best to Daniels) 2023 of any of the 6 1st round QBs and was the most NFL ready.

And now he’ll sit longer than any of the others… maybe even 3 years longer.

Lol

4 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

McPhearson, Ricks, and Jobe do not have close to the ceiling Ringo does in my opinion. I’m looking to a Mitchell, Ringo, Rodgers starting trio in 2025. It’s a damn speedy secondary. 

No they don't, but also not suggesting that. I'm looking at a comparison of DeJean and Ringo and who could be a better CB2 down the road, while letting Ricks, McPhearson and Jobe be your low cost reserve players. 

Ringo could be best used as a trade asset to get a better player. It's never going to happen, just looking at scenarios and how the Eagles might be able to take advantage. I like DeJean more than I like Ringo so now with Mitchell on board and DeJean still out there, IMO, it makes Ringo expendable if they want DeJean.

The only reason I'm bringing this up is the more you listen to Howie and their grading system, the more you think they will do what they can to get their guys if available. The reason they didn't trade up for Mitchell was because as the board fell, there was always a guy with a 1st round grade that was going to be there at 22.

If they had a 2nd round value on Ringo last year but a 1st round value on DeJean this year and DeJean is within striking distance in the 2nd round, I think you go after the 1st round talent, even if it means giving up on the 2nd round talent. I'm doing a terrible job explaining my thought process here but I hope it makes a little sense.

16 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

why do you think he needs to be a center? He has guard size.

I look at Powers-Johnson and think he's going to be a fantastic Center. I just don't see the same potential in him as a RG. To me, Center is a very specialized position, and if that's what your best fit is, it's a disservice to move you from it. That's how I feel about Cam Jurgens. He's got special Center traits, but he's just OK as a RG. 

1 minute ago, DaBirds said:

Doesn’t that emoji mean that you’re not really thrilled? Ha 

I don’t think so…I took it as the Eagles thinking they were being sly and it happened according to plan.  Like Howie really had any clue that Mitchell would last to number 22.  
 

I think Howie and Eagles fans should extremely pleased that we got the best CB in the draft without having to move up.  But I do not believe that this was their best case scenario going into the night…in their minds anyway.

Give me an OL and a WR/TE in RD2 and profit. 

Honestly? We don't need to go defense. We need more depth on offense.

1 minute ago, McMVP said:

I don’t think so…I took it as the Eagles thinking they were being sly and it happened according to plan.  Like Howie really had any clue that Mitchell would last to number 22.  
 

I think Howie and Eagles fans should extremely pleased that we got the best CB in the draft without having to move up.  But I do not believe that this was their best case scenario going into the night…in their minds anyway.

Ha I guess the emoji makes sense then I just always thought it meant something else. Thought maybe they used it on accident. 
 

Who do you think they were hoping for when the night started that they weren’t able to get? Maybe offense? 

1 minute ago, DaBirds said:

Who do you think they were hoping for when the night started that they weren’t able to get? Maybe offense? 

One of the top OTs is my guess.  

11 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

No they don't, but also not suggesting that. I'm looking at a comparison of DeJean and Ringo and who could be a better CB2 down the road, while letting Ricks, McPhearson and Jobe be your low cost reserve players. 

Ringo could be best used as a trade asset to get a better player. It's never going to happen, just looking at scenarios and how the Eagles might be able to take advantage. I like DeJean more than I like Ringo so now with Mitchell on board and DeJean still out there, IMO, it makes Ringo expendable if they want DeJean.

The only reason I'm bringing this up is the more you listen to Howie and their grading system, the more you think they will do what they can to get their guys if available. The reason they didn't trade up for Mitchell was because as the board fell, there was always a guy with a 1st round grade that was going to be there at 22.

If they had a 2nd round value on Ringo last year but a 1st round value on DeJean this year and DeJean is within striking distance in the 2nd round, I think you go after the 1st round talent, even if it means giving up on the 2nd round talent. I'm doing a terrible job explaining my thought process here but I hope it makes a little sense.

IMO dejean is basically a Harrison Smith who can cover like a CB. He is Malcolm Jenkins. 

MJ: 6’0 204

CDj: 6’1 207 (will probably be a little bigger at the next level)

HS: 6’2 214

If we take him in the second round he’s our starting FS 

10 minutes ago, DaBirds said:

Doesn’t that emoji mean that you’re not really thrilled? Ha 

Anyways, awesome pick. Can’t wait to see him play for the Eagles. 

I thought that emoji was a smirk, meaning that you were quite contented with yourself.

I'd like to see one of the great linebackers from the 2nd round. You would have a premium player at all 3 levels of the defense then.  Also it would take some pressure off dean if he can stay healthy.

The other 2nd wouldn't hate a wr get 3 solid wrs and then figure out lineman later or next year 

I think we could use quality over quantity, so unless it’s a small trade down or a ridiculous overpay, I want to use 50/53. There are going to be some really good players there. 

Waking up knowing I am not a Falcons fan.

Just now, ManuManu said:

I think we could use quality over quantity, so unless it’s a small trade down or a ridiculous overpay, I want to use 50/53. There are going to be some really good players there. 

100%!

Last year, they had a QUANTITY of CBs, but not much in the way of QUALITY.  Which is why we see them jump on a CB in this draft at #22.   

 

You can't win in the NFL without QUALITY players.  Depth is great, but in order to have depth that matters, the quality of the starters has to be there.

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

No they don't, but also not suggesting that. I'm looking at a comparison of DeJean and Ringo and who could be a better CB2 down the road, while letting Ricks, McPhearson and Jobe be your low cost reserve players. 

Ringo could be best used as a trade asset to get a better player. It's never going to happen, just looking at scenarios and how the Eagles might be able to take advantage. I like DeJean more than I like Ringo so now with Mitchell on board and DeJean still out there, IMO, it makes Ringo expendable if they want DeJean.

The only reason I'm bringing this up is the more you listen to Howie and their grading system, the more you think they will do what they can to get their guys if available. The reason they didn't trade up for Mitchell was because as the board fell, there was always a guy with a 1st round grade that was going to be there at 22.

If they had a 2nd round value on Ringo last year but a 1st round value on DeJean this year and DeJean is within striking distance in the 2nd round, I think you go after the 1st round talent, even if it means giving up on the 2nd round talent. I'm doing a terrible job explaining my thought process here but I hope it makes a little sense.

That's a good analysis. What is the likelihood, however, that a team that wants Ringo in a trade would pass on DeJean? I just don't think he would be an asset for that kind of trade.  It's possible they could trade Bradberry but I would think it would be more like a throw in rather than a real asset to make the deal.  

1 hour ago, greendestiny27 said:

I do think they were torn there. Arnold has the personality and Saban spoke very highly of Arnold, the Eagles love to add guys like this to the team. But his mediocre measurables and speed, I think that's what edged Mitchell over Arnold.  

I wonder if it came down to Nabors pick coupled with the speed in the Commies WR room made Mitchell’s speed the deciding factor.  

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I thought that emoji was a smirk, meaning that you were quite contented with yourself.

Ha Possible. Not trying to start emoji gate. I always thought it was like a "oh great thanks a lot” face haha I’m not good at that stuff though. 

8 minutes ago, RLC said:

Give me an OL and a WR/TE in RD2 and profit. 

Honestly? We don't need to go defense. We need more depth on offense.

LB? I don't think there's a TE that is worth a round 2 pick.  I could see a move at WR but WR3 in round 2.  A functional LB is more of a necessity.  They need depth on the o-line.  

12 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Ringo could be best used as a trade asset to get a better player. It's never going to happen, just looking at scenarios and how the Eagles might be able to take advantage. I like DeJean more than I like Ringo so now with Mitchell on board and DeJean still out there, IMO, it makes Ringo expendable if they want DeJean.

IF I was to move up to get DeJean (I probably wouldn't.), I'd use a 5th plus a further pick rather than a player.  And I'd play DeJean at Safety rather than CB.

What I'd rather see is one of those picks being used for a top Off-Ball LB.  I know that's not a typical Howie move, but neither is CB in the 1st.  And we've getting killed in the middle for years.  That's not only a Slot & Safety problem.  It's because that LB spot has been under-addressed.

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

That's a good analysis. What is the likelihood, however, that a team that wants Ringo in a trade would pass on DeJean? I just don't think he would be an asset for that kind of trade.  It's possible they could trade Bradberry but I would think it would be more like a throw in rather than a real asset to make the deal.  

A team desperate for picks might be persuaded.  They get a player they covet immediately, and still have a draft pick with which to add more talent.   I agree with your analysis though.  If a team is looking for a young CB... and Dejean is sitting there, why not just take him?  

We have to remember that Ringo lasted until the 4th round just last year.  And he didn't do a whole lot with the Eagles.  Why would his value all of a sudden be higher to the same GMs that passed on him 3 times just a year ago?  I don't think he's much of a trade asset at this moment.  His greater value remains with the Eagles to try to develop him.

What happened to the Eagles 3rd round comp pick for this draft?

 

Edit: The Pickett trade, God what an awful trade.

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

I wonder if it came down to Nabors pick coupled with the speed in the Commies WR room made Mitchell’s speed the deciding factor.  

I think that's certainly part of it.  It's possible they just had him as the better prospect.  He has very good film and played against OSU in 2022.  

I hope the Eagles don’t go "we missed on a tackle, so we have to get one today somehow.” If they think one of the tackles has all pro potential that’s one thing. But please don’t just take one because you feel you missed out and are getting antsy. I know they’re probably uneasy about not getting one, but address it next year. There will be some LBs, slot corners, WRs, OGs on the board that could really help.

3 minutes ago, DaBirds said:

Ha Possible. Not trying to start emoji gate. I always thought it was like a "oh great thanks a lot” face haha I’m not good at that stuff though. 

😕 - I think there's this one... which is what you suggest...

AND...

😏 - which is what the Eagles used in that tweet.

 

Subtle difference, but definitely there.

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

What happened to the Eagles 3rd round comp pick for this draft?