18 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Wilson will be interesting in how they use/coach him.  There’s a reason he went as late as he did.

As-is, he’s too slow with feet that are too sluggish to succeed as a WR in the modern nfl.

Hes too lanky and skinny to be legitimately considered as a TE.

So that’s why he was available.  If he can change one of those things, he’s got big time upside.  His ability to vertically snatch balls is hyper elite.  His speed would be outstanding for a TE.  Try to teach him to block and bulk up so he can be a mismatch nightmare at TE rather than an overgrown non separator at WR.

Disagree.

Thats not what I see when I watch him play. Is he fast by NFL standards? No. But he’s not sluggish at all, and he has reasonable agility. He’s not stiff, he has some fluidity. Again, not elite, but acceptable at the NFL level. He gets open against NFL caliber athletes playing corner in college.

I think the big knock is consistency. He makes circus catches, but he doesn’t have great hands. He had problems with drops. He was really streaky in college. He can go quiet for stretches. I think that’s the big knock on him.

Does he have the concentration to become a reliable target? You can’t have third down drops in the NFL.

Can he be more consistent? Is his "hot streak” production his potential and what he develops into, or was it a good string of performance and he reverts to the mean and that’s what he actually is?

It’s easy for us as fans to look at the good stuff and say, "that’s his potential.” But it’s not such a given, especially going to the NFL level.

But I don’t think he has any major athletic limitations. Again, obviously he doesn’t have elite speed, but he’s faster than plenty of pro bowlers.

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I would love to see healthy competition.  

What about Covey?

Covey is a PS player let’s be honest. We have 4 capable returners now, his highest margin of value just collapsed. 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

I would love to see healthy competition.  

What about Covey?

Same here.

Let the best players on the field decide it.

Covey better bring it in Camp.

This is not a Watkins/OZ camp battle.

Eagles brought in some fangs.

5 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

CB gonna be harder to compete for a spot tbh. 
 

I don’t think Parker is a lock, especially with 6’6 Johnny Wilson. Parker doesn’t separate, and if that becomes Wilson’s issue, he’s 6’7 230 and can work only on blocking and effort to become a giant Pascal. 

Parker brings a wealth of experience with a resume of being a solid deep threat.  In a Super Bowl or bust year - that will likely pencil him into the roster, imo.  (Unless he shows up to trading camp and flops) 

 

 

Just now, TEW said:

Disagree.

Thats not what I see when I watch him play. Is he fast by NFL standards? No. But he’s not sluggish at all, and he has reasonable agility. He’s not stiff, he has some fluidity. Again, not elite, but acceptable at the NFL level. He gets open against NFL caliber athletes playing corner in college.

I think the big knock is consistency. He makes circus catches, but he doesn’t have great hands. He had problems with drops. He was really streaky in college. He can go quiet for stretches. I think that’s the big knock on him.

Does he have the concentration to become a reliable target? You can’t have third down drops in the NFL.

Can he be more consistent? Is his "hot streak” production his potential and what he develops into, or was it a good string of performance and he reverts to the mean and that’s what he actually is?

It’s easy for us as fans to look at the good stuff and say, "that’s his potential.” But it’s not such a given, especially going to the NFL level.

But I don’t think he has any major athletic limitations. Again, obviously he doesn’t have elite speed, but he’s faster than plenty of pro bowlers.

I agree. I think many around are being too lazy just seeing his height and weight a call him a slow WR/TE project. Dude actually has pretty quick feet, and good control through his routes. He’ll need coached up and developed, but he’s going to be an outside WR for his entire career. Put him on Juggs machine every day, get him some ladders, and working with Smitty on feet. He’ll be a steal if he improves at the same rate he did in college. Catch radius is out of this world. Size can be crucial as a run/screen blocker as well. 

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Am I misremembering or did most mocks have Trotter Jr as a 2nd round big during the 2023 season? Not that it matters, Carson Strong was once considered a first round pick. But what I'm driving at is I wonder if Trotter's value plummeted because of bad testing and it kind of snowballed.

 

There were people projecting him to be a 1st round pick 1-2 years ago. 

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Parker brings a wealth of experience with a resume of being a solid deep threat.  In a Super Bowl or bust year - that will likely pencil him into the roster, imo.  (Unless he shows up to trading camp and bombs) 

 

 

You can get 10 of those after pre season cuts. 

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

There were people projecting him to be a 1st round pick 1-2 years ago. 

Clemson had a terrible year all around. Doesn’t help

5 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

Covey is a PS player let’s be honest. We have 4 capable returners now, his highest margin of value just collapsed. 

 

I was the biggest Covey hater here but he really developed into one of the leagues best punt returners.  Not like the Eagles Punt Return unit is creating huge holes for the guy.  You have to have complete disregard for your body to be able to make it as a long term punt returner and Covey has that. I don't want DeJean to endure that physical punishment unless he doesn't earn a starting spot on defense and in that case get him on the field at PR.  The Texas A&M kid they drafted looks like he struggles to even catch a punt, regardless of what he does after that.

 

Covey makes the team because at the end of the day he will be more valuable than Parker or the kid they drafted Wilson unless Wilson really looks promising at WR in camp at preseason or they at some point figure he is worth keeping around and developing at TE. But he isn't making a roster spot over Covey who could contribute to offense but absolutely is one of the 5-10 best punt returners in the league. 

How can you not like this franchise?

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

There were people projecting him to be a 1st round pick 1-2 years ago. 

His dad was a late pick as well - for basically the same reasons.  
 

Jeremiah Trotter became great because he was a "football player”.  He gave 110% every time he was on the field and he left nothing on the field when he left it.

If his son has his skill and half his heart, he could become Jeremiah Trotter 2.0💪

I feel like Isaiah rogers is getting lost in the CB talk shuffle.

Im excited about mitchell and Dejean but rogers before he got suspended was a really good corner 

Cant wait to see how it all comes together not to mention Ringo could take a sophomore leap.

A secondary that was horrid lost year could be stacked now💪

26 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

WR will be the toughest position to make this year.  Loaded with talent - the most talent in the history of the franchise going into training camp - without question.

1. AJ Brown 

2. DeVonta Smith

3. DeVonte Parker

4. Paris Campbell 

 

 

Those 4 are likely locks.  Will we keep a 5th?  And if we do, who will it be?  

Covey?  Draft picks? 
 

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Parker brings a wealth of experience with a resume of being a solid deep threat.  In a Super Bowl or bust year - that will likely pencil him into the roster, imo.  (Unless he shows up to trading camp and flops) 

 

 

Parker is a criminally overrated WR. 9 years, ONE 1,000 yard season. And to call him a "deep threat?”  Where on earth did you pull that from?

1 hour ago, just relax said:

We can crow about getting DeJean but it’s worth remembering that Washington got Mikey Sanristill and Ben Sinnott with 50 and 53. Who won that trade?

Interesting question … is it rhetorical?

4 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

I was the biggest Covey hater here but he really developed into one of the leagues best punt returners.  Not like the Eagles Punt Return unit is creating huge holes for the guy.  You have to have complete disregard for your body to be able to make it as a long term punt returner and Covey has that. I don't want DeJean to endure that physical punishment unless he doesn't earn a starting spot on defense and in that case get him on the field at PR.  The Texas A&M kid they drafted looks like he struggles to even catch a punt, regardless of what he does after that.

 

Covey makes the team because at the end of the day he will be more valuable than Parker or the kid they drafted Wilson unless Wilson really looks promising at WR in camp at preseason or they at some point figure he is worth keeping around and developing at TE. But he isn't making a roster spot over Covey who could contribute to offense but absolutely is one of the 5-10 best punt returners in the league. 

I would expect covey to make a push as a WR this year.

He was a really good WR in college and he could be a sleeper to make a push for the slot.

We'll see lots more competition this year at WR than there was last year and the OC might actually use the 3rd WR.

9 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

You can get 10 of those after pre season cuts. 

Nah. Devante Parker is solid.  Ask @e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! about him.  He almost had my throat a few years ago when discussing his skill set. 😅

3 hours ago, RLC said:

When asking about it, Lurie seemed very confident the Eagles didn't do anything wrong regarding Barkley. And Schefter was wishy-washy about anything concrete with Philly (not true of Atlanta)

Maybe Fangio, that seemed bold faced

58 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Shipley kind of reminds me of Deandre Swift.

Just watched his game vs Florida State. He had very little room to work with on most of his carries. I thought he looked fine. I’m not super excited about him, but he did have a helluva choice route for a TD. I think he’ll be an upgrade over Gainwell. 

I don’t see Swift’s ability to cut at full speed. That sets Swift apart from him, but he’s similar in the sense that he can be useful in the passing game and make people miss in space. Like Swift, he doesn’t really consistently get yards after contact because he doesn’t have much power. 

5 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

 

Parker is a criminally overrated WR. 9 years, ONE 1,000 yard season. And to call him a "deep threat?”  Where on earth did you pull that from?

@e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! convinced me of that a few years ago.  And tbh I tend to believe him. 🤷🏻‍♂️

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

I was the biggest Covey hater here but he really developed into one of the leagues best punt returners.  Not like the Eagles Punt Return unit is creating huge holes for the guy.  You have to have complete disregard for your body to be able to make it as a long term punt returner and Covey has that. I don't want DeJean to endure that physical punishment unless he doesn't earn a starting spot on defense and in that case get him on the field at PR.  The Texas A&M kid they drafted looks like he struggles to even catch a punt, regardless of what he does after that.

 

Covey makes the team because at the end of the day he will be more valuable than Parker or the kid they drafted Wilson unless Wilson really looks promising at WR in camp at preseason or they at some point figure he is worth keeping around and developing at TE. But he isn't making a roster spot over Covey who could contribute to offense but absolutely is one of the 5-10 best punt returners in the league. 

Will Shipley, Ainias Smith, Isaiah Rodgers and Cooper DeJean provide more positional value than Covey, while having return capabilities. 
 

Wilson, Smitty, AJ, and Parker are all outside WRs. 
 

Smith, Campbell, and Covey bring inside guys. I’d see them calling Will Shipley here as well shaving off snaps from traditional slot only guy. Carrying 4 on gameday plus Shipley might be a very real possibility. I’m not sure Covey gets that nod. 

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Easy to get excited when you watch Trotter. You really can't teach his instincts (something Nick Saban did a really great job discussing during the draft) and his closing burst looks elite to my untrained eye. When he decides to go, he goes and he hits what he intends to.

 

I watched some highlights and was pretty excited about what I saw. Then I watched his game vs UNC. He’s slow. When he triggers and it’s right, it looks good. But he gives up a lot of extra yardage because of the angles he has to take to get to the ball carrier. Drake Maye has so much more burst and speed than him.

I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see it. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

I watched some highlights and was pretty excited about what I saw. Then I watched his game vs UNC. He’s slow. When he triggers and it’s right, it looks good. But he gives up a lot of extra yardage because of the angles he has to take to get to the ball carrier. Drake Maye has so much more burst and speed than him.

I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see it. 

Luckily the pro game is more about instinct and getting to A & B is smaller gap. College football is wide open, sometimes these guys benefit from the tighter smaller margins in the NFL. Burfict is a decent example. 

1 minute ago, GoEagles614 said:

Luckily the pro game is more about instinct and getting to A & B is smaller gap. College football is wide open, sometimes these guys benefit from the tighter smaller margins in the NFL. Burfict is a decent example. 

The trade off is he’s competing against faster players too in the pros.