15 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

You are set up to be pleasantly surprised. I dont think you could have aimed much lower. 

I like Guerendo who went a few picks later to SF much better.

Hes a lot bigger and ran a fast 40 as well.

Shipley reminds me of chad hall, and a faster reno mahe.

Good at a a lot master of none 

Hopefully ill be pleasantly surprised.

Also really like the RB KC got as UDFA out of TCU.

 

9 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

You draft how the board breaks, i wish they hand gone OL earlier as Lane’s replacement isn’t visibly on the roster yet unless we are missing something.  DT though, we just spend so much resources on 2 the previous 2 drafts in premium spots and this was a terrible draft for DT’s IMO.  Who did we miss?

We traded 2 picks 50 and 53 in the second round to trade up for Cooper DeJean.

We missed two players in this range. DT, Edge, OT , C, S, TE. Take your pick.

One thing Sheil and Solak said that I agree with 100% is the "too much pressure for Trotter Jr to play in Philly" stuff was always 100% nonsense. There will be very little pressure on him as a 5th round pick and I think even if he's just a depth LB on special teams who lights up a returner every now and again, fans will still embrace him.

4 minutes ago, CouchKing said:

We traded 2 picks 50 and 53 in the second round to trade up for Cooper DeJean.

We missed two players in this range. DT, Edge, OT , C, S, TE. Take your pick.

For Fangio's defense I'd rather have Cooper than any of those guys. By a solid margin. Time will tell. Honestly I think it's a trade that worked for both teams 

I think I already said it briefly but Ill say it again.

Ainias Smith will be what people hoped Corley would be. Corley will not be what people thought he would be.

Corley broke a bunch of bad, weak tackle attempts with "strength". Mostly against very weak competition. He doesnt actually look that strong and he is not going to break many NFL tackles in the same way. Ainias Smith's elusiveness translates. He runs through arm tackles which are only arm tackles not because of poor defenders, but because he creates the poor angle for the defender. Again, his RAC translates. 

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Looking at the OL, and I think we have nine roster locks at this point.

OT (3) - Mailata, L. Johnson, F. Johnson (or FA tackle yet to be signed … Becton?)

OG (4) - Dickerson, Steen, Hennessey, Keegan

C (2) - Jurgens, McMahon

That leaves LeRaven Clark, Darrian Kinnard, others on the outside looking in. Maybe we can find a 10th spot, but none of these guys is exciting enough for them to force it. 

In my late night back and for with RR regarding Britain Covey, I posted my prediction for the 53. I've already made one update at LB and CB. This roster is set for the most part. I think all of the OTA's, mini camps and TC are going to be about 6 OR 7 roster spots, QB3, RB4, WR5,Eddge/OLB 6, DT5 and the last 2 CB.

QB (3) Jalen Hurts, Kenny Pickett, Will Grier/Tanner McKee

RB (4) Saquon Barkley, Will Shipley, Kenny Gainwell, Kendall Milton/Tyrion Davis-Price

WR (5) AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, Parris Campbell, Ainias Smith, Devonte Parker/Johnny Wilson/Britain Covey

TE (3) Dallas Goedert, Grant Calcaterra, CJ Uzomah

OL (9) Jordan Mailata, Landon Dickerson, Cam Jurgens, Tyler Steen, Lane Johnson, Matt Hennessy, Fred Johnson, Trevor Keegan, Dylan McMahon

Offense- 24 players. 

Edge/OLB (6) Josh Sweat, Bryce Huff, BG, Jalyx Hunt, Nolan Smith, Oren Burks/Julian Okwara

LB (5) Devin White, Nakobe Dean, Jeremiah Trotter Jr., Zack Baun, Ben VanSumeren

DT (5) Jalen Carter, Milton Williams, Moro Ojomo, Jordan Davis, Thomas Booker/Noah Ellis/Marlon Tuipulotu/PJ Mustipher

DB (10) Darius Slay, Quinyon Mitchell, Cooper DeJean, Kelee Ringo, Isaiah Rodgers, CJGJ, Reed Blankenship, Sydney Brown, 2 of Tyler Hall/Avonte Maddox/Eli Ricks/Zech McPhearson/Josh Jobe/Mekhi Garner

Defense- 26 players

Specialists (3) Rick Lovato, Jake Elliott, Braden Man

There's just not a whole lot of room on the team. 

 

Projected 2024 Depth Chart – Training Camp

Offense (24)
QB(3): Hurts, Pickett, McKee
RB(3): Barkley, Gainwell, Shipley
TE(3): Goedert, Uzomah, Okwuegbunam/Calcaterra
WR(6): Brown, Smith, Parker, Campbell, Covey, Smith/Wilson
OL(9) Mailata, Dickerson, Jurgens, Steen, Johnson
Hennessy, F. Johnson, Keegan, McMahon

Defense (26)
DE(2): Sweat, Graham
DT(5): Davis, Carter, Williams, Ojomo, Tuipulotu
Stack LB(5): Dean, White, Burks, VanSumeren, Trotter
Rush LB(4): N. Smith, Huff, Baun, Hunt
S(4): Gardner-Johnson, Blankenship, Brown, DeJean
CB(6): Slay, Mitchell, Ringo, Rodgers, Maddox, Ricks/Jobe

Specialists (3)
K: Elliott
P: Siposs
LS: Lovato

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There is just not way for Bradberry to be on this team by week 1. They can keep him if they want, but it's too tough.

We suddenly have a lot of 3-4 OLBs (rush LBs). We only have two true 4-3 DEs (Sweat, Graham). Huff, Nolan, etc. can play DE on passing downs, but we're giving up a ton of size on 1st and 10 unless it's a 5 man front.

Would love to upgrade Fred Johnson to a veteran OT.

13 minutes ago, CouchKing said:

We traded 2 picks 50 and 53 in the second round to trade up for Cooper DeJean.

We missed two players in this range. DT, Edge, OT , C, S, TE. Take your pick.

We didn’t only get Cooper; we also used the 78th pick to move around a ton. It was Cooper, Jalyx, 2025 5th, Will Shipley, 2025 4th, and Jeremiah Trotter Jr all with #78 (and #210 to help move up to get Trotter)

 

Cooper they said had a bona fide 1st round grade, which not a lot of guys do (way less than 32). So with those player options you gave, I’ll take what we did 100%

9 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

For Fangio's defense I'd rather have Cooper than any of those guys. By a solid margin. Time will tell. Honestly I think it's a trade that worked for both teams 

Yes. Time will tell. I hope Cooper DeJean is the next coming of sliced bread.

I think I'm still butt hurt because, by moving up to get Cooper Dejean, Howie messed up my day 2 Master of the Draft...

48 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Perhaps not, but I think they want an athletic backup center and with Steen unproven, they might not be able to commit to Hennessy being that guy. McMahon as a draft pick will get a fairly long leash. He’ll have to bomb to get cut. 

Nah. They check him out in camp, but very few cuts get claimed, especially guys who aren't ready to play unless they have tremendous upside - b/c the claiming team has to put them on their 53 man roster.

Once on the PS, if he shows significant improvement, they can protect 3 players from being claimed.

The PS is now a mix of your most promising long shot prospects and "break glass if needed" veterans.

 

49 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Hunt I think is a virtual lock to be phantom IR guy this year. Probably Wilson too. Unless he shines in camp. I still think the positions they will still look at are OL, TE, WR, RB. I am really curious to see if they end up cutting Bradberry. I actually hope they don’t at this point. I think he’s probably shot, but I think there’s an outside chance Fangio could do something to make him not terrible and even if he doesn’t start, he could be ok as a depth guy in case someone gets banged up. Hard to say if he can make the crunch until we see how Hall and Rodgers look in camp. Really have no idea at all what to expect of either tbh.

If Hunt gets a phantom injury to go on IR, then he isn’t going to get any developmental time. He can’t practice, just sit in meetings. It would almost be a death blow to his career. 

Given Miami's projected vegas win totals, we'd be looking at their pick around 85 overall. This year, that was Zak Zinter.

12 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Nah. They check him out in camp, but very few cuts get claimed, especially guys who aren't ready to play unless they have tremendous upside - b/c the claiming team has to put them on their 53 man roster.

Once on the PS, if he shows significant improvement, they can protect 3 players from being claimed.

The PS is now a mix of your most promising long shot prospects and "break glass if needed" veterans.

It goes the other way too. You can afford to keep unplayable developmental bottom of the roster players because you can have JAG vets on the PS. 

I think if Avonte makes the roster he's your 4th safety option to save a roster spot

12 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

My grandfather used to go to the movies with a quarter in his pocket and come back with change.   You constantly reference ancient history.  What he did at Utah is completely irrelevant at this point.  He is what he is, and the Eagles have made it clear what he is... he's a PR only.

Once upon a time, Ty Detmer held the record in the NCAA for most: pass attempts, completions, passing yards, TD passes, total yards of offense and passer rating...     but when he came to the NFL, he became a backup QB to players who didn't have nearly the same statistical success in NCAA as him.    In NCAA, Detmer was a record setter.  In the NFL, he was a backup QB.   When Covey was at Utah, he was their top WR.  In the NFL, he's not close.  He's a PR only.  

 

Ty was way better than Koy too, just for the record 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Ty was way better than Koy too, just for the record 

But Koy had the better beard and I’ll never forget his no-look flip to Akers on that fake field goal. So cool.

Britain Covey & James Bradberry.

The 2 lightning rods here that peeps will be harping on til training camp. Frankly believe both are in the driver's seat for a roster spot until knocked off.

For now, I keep Bradberry as depth, at worst. Bradberry is known for alternating bad years with good years. He will be fighting for his career this year and expect a bounce back of some sort where he isn't futile. They will be banking that Fangio can get something out of him in new defense.

Besides being a top punt returner in the NFL, Covey is big in the locker room and been good with team culture. Don't see him losing his spot fast. They are not just gonna cut him for unproven rookies. 

37 minutes ago, RLC said:

nt.

Would love to upgrade Fred Johnson to a veteran OT.

Be all reports they like Fred Johnson a good deal

10 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Be all reports they like Fred Johnson a good deal

Well, he's big. Can he play?

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Philadelphia Eagles: A+

• 1 (22): CB Quinyon Mitchell, Toledo
• 2 (40): CB Cooper DeJean, Iowa
• 3 (94): EDGE Jalyx Hunt, Houston Christian
• 4 (127): RB Will Shipley, Clemson
• 5 (152): WR Ainias Smith, Texas A&M
• 5 (155): LB Jeremiah Trotter Jr., Clemson
• 5 (172): G Trevor Keegan, Michigan
• 6 (185): WR Johnny Wilson, Florida State
• 6 (190): C Dylan McMahon, NC State

Mitchell — Philadelphia fortifies its 28th-ranked coverage unit with arguably the most talented cornerback in this class. Mitchell led all FBS cornerbacks in PFF overall grade in each of the past two seasons. His outstanding athleticism and ability to make plays in off-coverage make him a perfect fit in Vic Fangio’s defense.

DeJean — The Eagles add two top-10 players on the PFF big board in the first two rounds of this draft, both at the cornerback position. DeJean projects as a movable piece in Vic Fangio’s defense who could theoretically end up outside, in the slot or at safety. He’s been extremely productive in the Iowa secondary, allowing just a 45.0 passer rating into his coverage over the past two seasons.

Hunt — A small-school player, Hunt dominated the lower levels, racking up 78 pressures, 14 hits and 14 sacks since 2022. He has athleticism, explosiveness and power that many edge rushers in this class don’t possess. He needs development to win at the next level, but his traits give him a great chance at reaching his potential.

Shipley — Shipley is one of the better athletes among running backs in this draft class, with a 99th-percentile PFF Game Athleticism Score. He was solid with the ball in his hands, too, and he earned a PFF grade above 70.0 in each of the past three seasons.

Smith — Smith proved a dangerous receiver after the catch at Texas A&M, as he forced 20 missed tackles after the catch in 2023 (seventh among all WRs). On 102 combined targets the past two seasons, he dropped just two passes.

Trotter — Sure to be one of the big stories of the day due to him heading to the same place where his father enjoyed an outstanding career, Trotter ranked fourth among all linebackers the past two seasons with a 91.3 overall grade. He also ranked fourth nationally in that time with a 92.1 coverage grade.

Keegan — Supplementing the interior is a sound approach here for the Eagles, who needed to fill some voids. Keegan didn’t allow a sack in 2023 and earned a career-high pass-blocking grade (80.7). He played eight games without allowing a single quarterback pressure.

Wilson — The massive receiver out of Florida State finally comes off the board in the sixth round. At 6-foot-6 and 231 pounds, Wilson ran an impressive 4.52-second 40-yard dash. While not a super-developed route runner, there is certainly a role at the next level for a vertical threat who converted 21 contested catches over the past two seasons.

McMahon — A depth pick at this point in the draft, McMahon allowed just one sack and 12 total pressures from 361 pass-blocking snaps in 2023. He put up career highs in overall grade (69.7) and pass-blocking grade (71.3) last season.

PFF

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

I like Guerendo who went a few picks later to SF much better.

Hes a lot bigger and ran a fast 40 as well.

Shipley reminds me of chad hall, and a faster reno mahe.

Good at a a lot master of none 

Hopefully ill be pleasantly surprised.

Also really like the RB KC got as UDFA out of TCU.

 

I did too. I was also secretly hoping we would've landed Marshawn Lloyd. Was hoping he lasted to our 3rd rounder just to make it more interesting but he went a few picks prior to our selection of Hunt. Packers now have Josh Jacobs, Lloyd, AJ Dillon. Jacobs and Lloyd is going to be such a powerful duo. Overall I am now settled on the Shipley pick. Think he will be a very hard and tireless worker and have success here. 

1 hour ago, CouchKing said:

We traded 2 picks 50 and 53 in the second round to trade up for Cooper DeJean.

We missed two players in this range. DT, Edge, OT , C, S, TE. Take your pick.

Why would you use a 2nd round pick on her another DT after spending 2 firsts in a row the last two years there? And why use a 2nd on a center when jurgens is the starter? Why use a 2nd on a TE when you have goeddert?  Why use a 2nd on a backup OT?  Why complain about not using a 2nd on a S when Dejean can play there? 

Every position on your list would have been a waste of a premium pick except S (because they drafted a guy who can play there) and MAYBE edge, where they picked one in the 3rd. 

1 hour ago, just relax said:

I beg to differ. I look at all the guys that got away but were right there to be had. Suamataia, Roman Wilson, Mccormick, Wingo. Add Eric All to that list. The draft could have been an all-timer but it most certainly was not. Zinter too. Keegan is good but Zinter is better.

Meh. You're just unhappy b/c they didn't take enough Wolverines! 😁

Some of these guys, like Wingo (4-3 "3") just weren't good fits .I'd rather have the DT they signed as a UFA - potential as a 3-4 end.

Suamataia went #31, you'd take him over Mitchell?

You can make a better case for Wilson (though that Michigan prejudice is showing . . .), we'll see how he does v Smith (and the value from trading down from #84)

McCormick was probably a better pick than Keegan, but you'd have to trade up (and miss Shipley) to get him from #121.

Zinter (another Michigan guy, is there a pattern here?) probably will be a starting NFL OG, but if Stoutland wanted him, doubt Howie passes on him at #84 - we know Stoutland has a lot of influence on draft decisions.

There are always alternative scenarios that also would have been good outcomes, but given what Howie started with, they had about as good a draft as you could have hoped for - they got two close to sure things, and a bunch of depth in a weak draft and a 3rd, 4th, and 5th in 2005. I don't expect anyone taken after DeJean to start, maybe Hunt down the road, but that's the normal expectation in most drafts. But in this draft, potential starters were thin by the end of the 3rd rd.

Howie didn't like this draft, said he added a bunch of guys off waivers, SFAs and low cost trades in anticipation of slim pickings.

One reason to add those 2025 picks is you can move 5th and 7th rd picks for veteran patches if need be this fall because you have 7 picks in the 1st 5 rounds.

Howie likes his optionality, those 2025 picks allow him to address holes that are revealed in TC.

 

 

 

31 minutes ago, just relax said:

But Koy had the better beard and I’ll never forget his no-look flip to Akers on that fake field goal. So cool.