14 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

The real question now is if the new offensive coordinator has to cosplay his offense to Sirianni or if he will have the autonomy to run his own stuff. I seriously doubt Johnson got to, and that would likely limit the quality of candidate we can attract. 

I’m guessing Sirianni likely agreed to bringing in a new offensive system and with that, limited control of the offense, etc.  Not sure how else he would have been able to keep his job plus appease the fanbase, etc. 

33 minutes ago, manz2821 said:

I mean if I'm a top flight OC or DC do I really want to come to Philly where I know the head coach is on thin ice. Another bad season and the HC gets canned and the new HC will gets thier own coordinators. Not a good option imo.

Maybe. Or maybe you get promoted to HC after a half season of interim HC. Instability can also be opportunity 

4 minutes ago, paco said:

Even schmoopie said "I thought the Bills were supposed to have a good defense".  Outside of Kelce and Isiah Pacheco, Mahomes really doesn't have any weapons (Rice is getting there) and they still couldn't stop them.

I said this after the game, Allen deserves blame and so does the kicker for missing. But really McDermott needs to go. He’s gotten them as far as he can. He’s 0-4 against chiefs and bengals the last 4 years in the playoffs. Those are likely the two teams you are constantly going to be battling along with ravens and possibly Texans to get to a SB. The fact is the KC offense had scored 27+ points in 4 of the previous 18 games. Over the last 7 weeks entering the game the chiefs scored 27+ points just once. the bills had injuries on defense but at some point you can either keep doing the same thing over and over or make a change and hope you come out better for it.   

23 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

So who are the good OCs that have failed at being HC? They could finally hire Josh McDaniels. 

Bringing in a low character person is never a good idea.  

Just now, Alphagrand said:

Bringing in a low character person is never a good idea.  

Josh mcdaniels is basically the offensive version of Matt Patricia. Without Brady he’s been crap. Patricia without belichick has been crap. 

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

B. Hurts plays like 2023.  There is some debate over what coaching he needs, the time he needs, if he can get back on the right track.  But we all know where this is headed.  They need out of that contract as soon as it permits.  Welcome to purgatory.

If Hurts has the exact same 2023 season we're a SB contender with a league-average defense.

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Bringing in a low character person is never a good idea.  

Yeah it was more of a joke that the Eagles seem obsessed with old patriots.

 

1 hour ago, Swoop said:

Im sure some will look at this as me "hating" and that's fine, but I'm genuinely asking. Suppose Hurts has another season like this past one. How much longer do we stick it out? It would be even more clear that 2022 was a fluke. 

I'm guessing unless there are major issues, he's here for at least the next two seasons.

I don't think Hurts was the problem this past season. I think the narrative that his play declined isn't true.  He played well enough but the scheme fell apart.  Hurts has problems he can improve on in his game, like stepping up in the pocket vs. escaping.  

Being in Reich, I’m actually happy I thought we would be stuck with BJ. 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Given Nick’s offensive challenges the past 2 seasons, I don’t think he has much power over the offense. In fact, I would think the next OC is being handed the keys and told "you got this” not necessarily by Nick but by Howie and Lurie 

Just now, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Being in Reich, I’m actually happy I thought we would be stuck with BJ. 

Bj might actually be better than Zj 

Doubt they do that cause he doesn’t have the OC experience they want and just went year 1 with Brian Johnson who didn’t have that experience 

 

41 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

The vibes are excellent keeping a lame duck HC who didn't hesitate to throw his staff under the bus.

Ultimately all that matters is how the new coach does at this point.  Brian Johnson is getting an unfair share of the blame.  He does deserve some of the blame.  He was part of the reason they had problems.  Ultimately, this likely wasn't Sirianni's decision but Lurie's.  Lurie told Siranni he needed to get someone else to have a bigger role in the offensive game planning.  I don't think Sirianni had much choice.  

18 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Are you kidding?  He spearheaded the WR turn around.  Now we have two top flight WRs.  He's a guru...   

Bring back Greg Lewis

9 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I don't think Hurts was the problem this past season. I think the narrative that his play declined isn't true.  He played well enough but the scheme fell apart.  Hurts has problems he can improve on in his game, like stepping up in the pocket vs. escaping.  

His play definitely declined, but it's being overexaggerated by people who weren't comfortable admitting they were wrong about him last year. That was a tough plate of crow for them, so they jump at the first chance to claim they were right all along. I think most of blame lies with the coaching staff for the offensive regression, but Hurts had his fair share of mistakes too.

44 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

The real question now is if the new offensive coordinator has to cosplay his offense to Sirianni or if he will have the autonomy to run his own stuff. I seriously doubt Johnson got to, and that would likely limit the quality of candidate we can attract. 

I am guessing Sirianni has been told that he needs help fixing things.  

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Doubt they do that cause he doesn’t have the OC experience they want and just went year 1 with Brian Johnson who didn’t have that experience 

 

I don't know what we will see but I don't think veteran experience is necessarily going to be required.  

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I don't know what we will see but I don't think veteran experience is necessarily going to be required.  

I definitely like that Robinson idea. With McVay for 5 years, he should be about ready to take the next step up. That guy with McVay's scheme, and Siri's willingness to go with analytics rather than be old school conservative could be a dangerous combination for this up and coming coach.

15 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Doubt they do that cause he doesn’t have the OC experience they want and just went year 1 with Brian Johnson who didn’t have that experience 

 

Problems with this is QB1 can’t read a defense so how is he going to make similar throws that Stafford makes? Not a system fit for our very limited qb

37 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

If that was the case then Nick would have been shown the door like Pederson.  Doug stuck up for his guys and it cost him his job.  

So Nick should have stuck up for coaches that 95% of this board wanted gone? 

If I'm a head coach and my coordinators suck there is only so much I can do.

I don't know why Doug stuck up for Press Taylor.  He sucks.  Doug should have just cut ties.  He might still be here today. 

40 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Unless it requires him to lose HIS job, apparently.   He wasn't willing to put his own head on the chopping block to save their jobs.

Would you?

 

5 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

Problems with this is QB1 can’t read a defense so how is he going to make similar throws that Stafford makes? Not a system fit for our very limited qb

Matthew Stafford dropped out of elementary school and does not even know how to spell his name.  

Eagles: 1 3rd, 3 5ths.

1 hour ago, shlo said:

When was the last time a head coach stuck around after firing the OC and DC in the same year? 

Pete Carroll was close.  Fired Schottenheimer in 2021 and Ken Norton Jr in 2022.