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4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im really tired of having to repeat the same stuff I have already said a million times while you are still confused. Start reading back pages in the blog to find the answer to your question. Its in here a couple times already.

Oh ok, so to recap, the fake NFL offense that set the franchise record in pts wasn't Sirianni's offense, and it wasn't Steichen's either. We'll never know whose it was, I guess, but maybe this year Sirianni can pull out that true NFL playbook that's been sitting in bottom drawer of his file cabinet, blow the dust off it, and share it with his new OC so they can set a new franchise record. This all sounds so exciting, I can't wait!

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7 minutes ago, paco said:

I need to sit and do the math, but I'm pretty sure that if they cut Hurts, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to get under the cap.  The ONLY way it would happen is if he literally returned his prorated bonuses.  

F it, quick and dirty spreadsheet.  Good enough for a ballpark POV

 

If the Eagles cut everyone (top 51), they would be almost $223 million in the hole

If the Eagles cut everyone in the top 51 with a positive cap impact AND cut\trade Jalen, they would be $44.6 million in the hole. And then they need to spend $45 million to fill out the roster.

 

In short:

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6 minutes ago, paco said:

He can waive it.  But the Eagles can't say "F you, you're going to Arizona" without his buy in.

No chance the eagles are going to try to trade him. But if he requests it, it wont be much of a hurdle at all.

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Oh ok, so to recap, the fake NFL offense that set the franchise record in pts wasn't Sirianni's offense, and it wasn't Steichen's either. We'll never know whose it was, I guess, but maybe this year Sirianni can pull out that true NFL playbook that's been sitting in bottom drawer of his file cabinet, blow the dust off it, and share it with his new OC so they can set a new franchise record. This all sounds so exciting, I can't wait!

sure.

 

5 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I don't think Hurts was the problem this past season. I think the narrative that his play declined isn't true.  He played well enough but the scheme fell apart.  Hurts has problems he can improve on in his game, like stepping up in the pocket vs. escaping.  

The Eagles were 10-1.  

And then Hurts injured his knee.  The Eagles never talked talked about that injury in any great detail.   Then the Eagles lost a few games,  Eagles fans acted like it was the end of the world and wanted everyone fired.   Then the Eagles best WR,  AJ Brown was hurt and could not play in the playoffs, and the Eagles, in good part because of that,  lost their playoff game,  the only game in weeks that mattered at all.

Then the Eagles fired everyone they could without really pissing off the football gods for firing a HC who never failed to take the Eagles to the playoffs.

 

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Oh ok, so to recap, the fake NFL offense that set the franchise record in pts wasn't Sirianni's offense, and it wasn't Steichen's either. We'll never know whose it was, I guess, but maybe this year Sirianni can pull out that true NFL playbook that's been sitting in bottom drawer of his file cabinet, blow the dust off it, and share it with his new OC so they can set a new franchise record. This all sounds so exciting, I can't wait!

In fairness, in this era of NFL, scoring a lot of points has basically become the "norm”.  Add 1 extra game - we should be setting franchise records in points scored - with this much talent on offense.  
 

The talent got this team to 11 wins.  Lack of consistency, game planning, play calling, lack of adjustments and yes, lack of execution by the players all contributed to the late season collapse. 

10 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

No chance the eagles are going to try to trade him. But if he requests it, it wont be much of a hurdle at all.

If he requests a trade, they still can't do it.*

 

*This is coming from the POV that they likely won't be able to get under the cap.  I haven't been able to prove it since I haven't looked at the #s to figure out that scenario, but the eagles are NOT cap healthy.  They don't have many levers to pull to get them under in the event Hurts demanded a trade and they wanted to oblige.  It would be $90,772,400 above his current 2024 cap hit.  (And for sake of this stupid argument, you HAVE to assume it's a pre June 1st move, since if he is on the roster in 2024, 40% of his 2026 salary fully guaranteed, negating "Savings" from a post June 1st cut)

52 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

second sentence is where you guys and all of the twitter dufuses you are listening to have it wrong. The simplicity is because of hurts. Its not a flaw of the coaches that held him back. Its what the coaches had to do in order for him to have a chance at success.

You don't know this, it's your belief. And even if it were true, there is a middle ground. You can run a simplistic scheme while still incorporating things within it to help your QB. Why were they calling QB draws when he was hurt and in pain on his knee? Why didn't they call anything for AJ Brown over the middle when those are his best routes? Why didn't they use Swift more as a receiver? Those could have very easily been done within his scheme. Why did they not run their patented bubble screens to guys who can get YAC? Why did they have their skinniest WR blocking on them? These things have nothing to do with Hurts. This is poor play design.

You've gotta think Hasson Reddick is going to on the trade block as soon as a new DC is named. I just don't see how he fits in the schemes of the guys who they seem to be interested in. 

Welp Flyers fans...things were going so well. Let's hope everything is OK on his end.

 

Was Doc hired yet?? 

5 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

This is what makes this situation so toxic.

Either the new OC has full autonomy of the offense, which makes Sirianni useless. He's not some generational coach that must be kept at all cost to where even if he's not running the offense or defense he's irreplaceable.

Or Sirianni still has full say on the offense, which means the new OC is basically just calling plays from Sirianni's playbook, which severely handicaps the potential of the offense that was so predictable and stagnant.

Either outcome sucks. The whole situation sucks.

Or,  it's some combination of OC and HC.

But I'm impressed with your ability to lie about all the options with a straight face.

The part about "sucks" is right.

I wanted Brian Johnson to stay so that we could see the Brian Johnson offense from college, and move away from the Rivers offense from the Chargers,  because Hurts is not Rivers,  and Rivers never went to the Super Bowl, but Hurts did.   

There is some idea somewhere in the Eagles/Colts/Chargers camp that Philip Rivers was the greatest QB in NFL history and anyone who ever coached him was and is a genius, and if you have a guy, or see a guy, who coached Rivers,  you gotta get him,  or get him back.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

You've gotta think Hasson Reddick is going to on the trade block as soon as a new DC is named. I just don't see how he fits in the schemes of the guys who they seem to be interested in. 

As opposed to getting dropped back into coverage 7 times a game?  
 

Pretty sure any DC will do a better job than that.  Just sayin’. 

1 minute ago, Khani1 said:

Was Doc hired yet?? 

Doc is a good coach imo.  Probably would do better with a more veteran group.  Nick Nurse seems to be more of an X’s and O’s guy, which is what the 76ers needed. 

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Doc is a good coach imo.  Probably would do better with a more veteran group.  Nick Nurse seems to be more of an X’s and O’s guy, which is what the 76ers needed. 

Are you trolling or do you not watch basketball?

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

As opposed to getting dropped back into coverage 7 times a game?  
 

Pretty sure any DC will do a better job than that.  Just sayin’. 

Right but Reddick needs to be in an odd-man front defense that has a sole stand up LB rusher. It sounds like they are moving away from that style of defense based on who they are talking to. Even if they bring in Wink, who loves to blitz, he also wants his LB to be super athletic who know how to cover. Reddick is a pass rush LB only, he's not a DE and he's not a LB who will ever cover. He's also on his last year of his contract, getting older and probably wants to get paid. I can't see the Eagles extending him before the season starts with him learning a new defense. I'm looking at the Browns, Packers, Steelers and Ravens as potential teams who use rush LB. 

5 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

Are you trolling or do you not watch basketball?

lol I know Doc got a bad rap here but he’s a solid coach.   Not quite the right fit here but he has a solid track record and likely will do fine elsewhere, imo. 
 

Nick Nurse seems to be the perfect fit for this team at this time so let’s see what happens.  Love the vibe of the 76ers this year - probably the best vibe this team has had during the Embiid era, imo. 

8 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Welp Flyers fans...things were going so well. Let's hope everything is OK on his end.

 

Ersson has been playing better than Hart for most of this season, and Peterson is serviceable as a backup in the short term.  

40 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

No. I have criticized Brian Johnson as well. I cant tell you how many times I said he sucked too.

And who was his boss?

Just now, Ace Nova said:

lol I know Doc got a bad rap here but he’s a solid coach.   Not quite the right fit here but he has a solid track record and likely will do fine elsewhere, imo. 
 

Nick Nurse seems to be the perfect fit for this team at this time so let’s seem what happens.  Love the vibe of the 76ers this year - probably the best vibe this team has had during the Embiid era, imo. 

Seems to me like Doc has a solid track record of leading very talented teams that underperform in the playoffs. 

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Right but Reddick needs to be in an odd-man front defense that has a sole stand up LB rusher. It sounds like they are moving away from that style of defense based on who they are talking to. Even if they bring in Wink, who loves to blitz, he also wants his LB to be super athletic who know how to cover. Reddick is a pass rush LB only, he's not a DE and he's not a LB who will ever cover. He's also on his last year of his contract, getting older and probably wants to get paid. I can't see the Eagles extending him before the season starts with him learning a new defense. I'm looking at the Browns, Packers, Steelers and Ravens as potential teams who use rush LB. 

Fair enough.

I have a feeling if they solidify the LB corps and bring in a blitz heavy defense, he will likely be subject to less double teams, will draw less attention and that could work out as well, imo. 

14 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

You don't know this, it's your belief. And even if it were true, there is a middle ground. You can run a simplistic scheme while still incorporating things within it to help your QB. Why were they calling QB draws when he was hurt and in pain on his knee? Why didn't they call anything for AJ Brown over the middle when those are his best routes? Why didn't they use Swift more as a receiver? Those could have very easily been done within his scheme. Why did they not run their patented bubble screens to guys who can get YAC? Why did they have their skinniest WR blocking on them? These things have nothing to do with Hurts. This is poor play design.

like do you remember when we lost TO in 2004 playoffs until the sb, you know what reid did, ran the ball and threw the ball to westbrook, like nick cant make things simple if it was staring in his face.

40 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I think its all of the above and I think each failure played into the others and spiral grew bigger and bigger until it really engulfed the entire team.   And for that reason I wanted a full reset with the coaching staff.  

 

Yep, everyone failed last year. To say otherwise is just being a slave to whatever silly narrative someone wants to follow or spin. 

12 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Welp Flyers fans...things were going so well. Let's hope everything is OK on his end.

 

That isn't good news for him.  Hopefully, everything turns out ok.

42 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I think its all of the above and I think each failure played into the others and spiral grew bigger and bigger until it really engulfed the entire team.   And for that reason I wanted a full reset with the coaching staff.  

 

This. Well said. 

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