5 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Nick is the HC.  He is primarily responsible for his staff sucking.  Keeping him while he throws his staff under the bus to save his ass is just going to cause all sorts issues of getting quality coordinators in here under him.

But if they fired him,   there would be all sorts of issues for Howie to ever get a new HC.

It might be clear to many that Siri sucks,  but if he is a garbage HC and a garbage OC,  and can't do Xs and Os at all,  he still won.  How was that?   Perhaps Siri is a wizard,  who relies on wizardly rituals to get wins.  If Siri is asked to do to much of the Xs and Os,  he is distracted from his wizardly rituals,  and the wizardly rituals are no longer effective enough to win.  

17 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Welp Flyers fans...things were going so well. Let's hope everything is OK on his end.

 

Might be mental health, I remember he was having some problems during the covid season. Hope he's ok

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yep, everyone failed last year. To say otherwise is just being a slave to whatever silly narrative someone wants to follow or spin. 

Yep.

 

At the end of the day, anyone who has been in sports or even a competitive environment knows about the "snow ball effect”.  When coaching fails, everything else becomes worse - it’s basically a domino effect and that’s what we witnessed during their collapse.  

The fact that the biggest defenses for Sirianni are:

"It's Hurts' fault" and "Just let him serve as a CEO coach" rather than being able to name a specific thing he does great as a coach speaks volumes.

Bill Belichick - great at scheming defense and figuring out what you do best and limiting it.

Kyle Shanahan - QBs drive under his offense, he seems to always have an effective running game everywhere he's been, he schemes receivers open extremely well. Knows how to play his pass game off his run game very well.

Sean McVay - has a dynamic offense that is very hard to figure out because he runs a variety of plays from similar sets and disguises his plays very well. Good at creating mismatches in the passing game.

What does Nick Sirianni do great? If you struggle to find an answer, that should tell you something. And this isn't saying everything is his fault. So many guys in that building deserve blame including Howie. But if you're going to pound the table for a head coach and be adamant that he should stay, you'd think you'd have a laundry list of things that makes him worth keeping. Like we can all do right now for Jeff Stoutland.

7 minutes ago, toughfighter83 said:

like do you remember when we lost TO in 2004 playoffs until the sb, you know what reid did, ran the ball and threw the ball to westbrook, like nick cant make things simple if it was staring in his face.

You're forgetting that was the template up until TO came to Philly.  Reid just ran the same proven 2001-2003 game plan that got them to 3 NFCCG.  

50 minutes ago, paco said:

He

Has

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No

Trade

Clause

It’s Philly the big bad media can clearly make him request a trade…

Who do you believe

 

Just now, Sack that QB said:

The fact that the biggest defenses for Sirianni are:

"It's Hurts' fault" and "Just let him serve as a CEO coach" rather than being able to name a specific thing he does great as a coach speaks volumes.

Bill Belichick - great at scheming defense and figuring out what you do best and limiting it.

Kyle Shanahan - QBs drive under his offense, he seems to always have an effective running game everywhere he's been, he schemes receivers open extremely well.

Sean McVay - has a dynamic offense that is very hard to figure out because he runs a variety of plays from similar sets and disguises his plays very well. Good at creating mismatches in the passing game.

What does Nick Sirianni do great? If you struggle to find an answer, that should tell you something. And this isn't saying everything is his fault. So many guys in that building deserve blame including Howie. But if you're going to pound the table for a head coach and be adamant that he should stay, you'd think you'd have a laundry list of things that makes him worth keeping. Like we can all do right now for Jeff Stoutland.

I don’t think the majority of fans are blaming this on Hurts or the majority of players.

 You have "Hurts haters” who have been around since the day he was drafted that are taking their moment to say, "I told you so”. (Even though they sound sillier than ever, especially after all the crow they had to eat after Hurts took this team to the Super Bowl last season). It’s an attempt to save face.

Anyone without bias knows this was an absolute collapse in coaching, game planning, failing to adjust, failure of communication & leadership within the coaching staff that led to a collapse of the players to execute.  It was a snowball effect that got dramatically worse after the loss to the 49ers. 

 

5 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

But Sirianni has his offensive philosophies that he believes in. If Lowie don't believe in his philosophies anymore and they want an OC with a new philosophy to come in and change the offense, why would you keep Sirianni?

Because when your HC takes you to the playoffs 3 times out of 3,  including a Super Bowl appearance,  you don't fire him.

And the above statement is correct.   Even if Siri actually sucks,  he has gone 3/3.  And you don't fire that.   

If you want to fire Siri,  you do something to dial up a losing record,  and after the losing record happens, you fire him.     Maybe this is a year that Howie stops pushing the can down the road.  2024 picks are traded for multiple 2025 picks,  so that the new HC can have a stocked cabinet of picks.   Kelce retires for a year,  comes back as a backup C and FB for the new HC.  Cox, Graham,  Lane, all take a year off.   The Eagles suck,  lose more than they win,  Siri is fired (not because the NFL's worst fans are complaining again,  but because Siri actually lost too many games)  the legend vets are back,  a new HC with a ton of solid coaches,  and a ton of picks.  

Siri seems like a lame duck and the Eagles are just waiting for Siri to have a bad record and fire him.  4-11-1 should be bad enough. 

18 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Ersson has been playing better than Hart for most of this season, and Peterson is serviceable as a backup in the short term.  

I really like Ersson.

Yeah this feels like it is gonna blowup in their face. At least in the 2025 draft we should have a pretty good pick at the top of the draft. 

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s Philly the big bad media can clearly make him request a trade…

Hurts isn’t going anywhere.  He’s not a quitter, it’s not in his "DNA” (As Wentz would say)  

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Who do you believe

 

I'm late. Last I saw was Pete is staying with Hawks and going into the FO part of the organization 

I blame Siposs 

Just now, Mike030270 said:

I'm late. Last I saw was Pete is staying with Hawks and going into the FO part of the organization 

If he doesn’t find a HC job somewhere that’s the plan 

8 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

Because when your HC takes you to the playoffs 3 times out of 3,  including a Super Bowl appearance,  you don't fire him.

And the above statement is correct.   Even if Siri actually sucks,  he has gone 3/3.  And you don't fire that.   

If you want to fire Siri,  you do something to dial up a losing record,  and after the losing record happens, you fire him.     Maybe this is a year that Howie stops pushing the can down the road.  2024 picks are traded for multiple 2025 picks,  so that the new HC can have a stocked cabinet of picks.   Kelce retires for a year,  comes back as a backup C and FB for the new HC.  Cox, Graham,  Lane, all take a year off.   The Eagles suck,  lose more than they win,  Siri is fired (not because the NFL's worst fans are complaining again,  but because Siri actually lost too many games)  the legend vets are back,  a new HC with a ton of solid coaches,  and a ton of picks.  

Siri seems like a lame duck and the Eagles are just waiting for Siri to have a bad record and fire him.  4-11-1 should be bad enough. 

What in the actual F?

12 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Who do you believe

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

Because when your HC takes you to the playoffs 3 times out of 3,  including a Super Bowl appearance,  you don't fire him.

And the above statement is correct.   Even if Siri actually sucks,  he has gone 3/3.  And you don't fire that.   

If you want to fire Siri,  you do something to dial up a losing record,  and after the losing record happens, you fire him.     Maybe this is a year that Howie stops pushing the can down the road.  2024 picks are traded for multiple 2025 picks,  so that the new HC can have a stocked cabinet of picks.   Kelce retires for a year,  comes back as a backup C and FB for the new HC.  Cox, Graham,  Lane, all take a year off.   The Eagles suck,  lose more than they win,  Siri is fired (not because the NFL's worst fans are complaining again,  but because Siri actually lost too many games)  the legend vets are back,  a new HC with a ton of solid coaches,  and a ton of picks.  

Siri seems like a lame duck and the Eagles are just waiting for Siri to have a bad record and fire him.  4-11-1 should be bad enough. 

Missing the playoffs and he’s done.

 

Actually, anything less than a .500 record by mid season and he’ll likely be gone by mid season.

5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Hurts isn’t going anywhere.  He’s not a quitter, it’s not in his "DNA” (As Wentz would say)  

When he leaves not sure it’s gonna be his choice (more likely cut or both sides see it’s the end). I think he’s got til end of 2025 season to get himself playing at the 2022 level. If by that point he’s not i think he’s gonna be gone either way.

I’m hoping he gets himself back to 2022 level consistently. That said i think 2024 is gonna be a washed year too much crap going on  behind the scenes and in this organization. Feels like a powder keg ready to implode more. Frankly feels like 2014 going into 2015 where you had a bad end to the regular season and then all this stuff going on and then fell flat on their face 

15 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

Because when your HC takes you to the playoffs 3 times out of 3,  including a Super Bowl appearance,  you don't fire him.

And the above statement is correct.   Even if Siri actually sucks,  he has gone 3/3.  And you don't fire that.   

If you want to fire Siri,  you do something to dial up a losing record,  and after the losing record happens, you fire him.     Maybe this is a year that Howie stops pushing the can down the road.  2024 picks are traded for multiple 2025 picks,  so that the new HC can have a stocked cabinet of picks.   Kelce retires for a year,  comes back as a backup C and FB for the new HC.  Cox, Graham,  Lane, all take a year off.   The Eagles suck,  lose more than they win,  Siri is fired (not because the NFL's worst fans are complaining again,  but because Siri actually lost too many games)  the legend vets are back,  a new HC with a ton of solid coaches,  and a ton of picks.  

Siri seems like a lame duck and the Eagles are just waiting for Siri to have a bad record and fire him.  4-11-1 should be bad enough. 

You've done nothing but spout cliches and not back up your statement with as to why you can't fire a coach after 3 playoff appearances. "You just don't fire those guys!" Is not a reason.

"You just don't eat dessert before dinner!"

"Girls just don't propose to guys, it must be the other way around!"

No intelligent individual is beholden to any arbitrary rule set if they think they can make their situation better. You can do whatever you want if you think it'll make the team better.

Good organizations anticipate and do things before the bottom drops out. By your logic, if the Eagles crash and burn next season, then it will be "acceptable" to fire him, but not now even if they were to have a fear that kind of season may be on the horizon.

I don’t see Sirianni being a long term option. Even if he’s not fired, he’s going to be burned out sooner or later. Never saw a coach look like complete dogish through the week and somehow managing to top it every year. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

When he leaves not sure it’s gonna be his choice (more likely cut or both sides see it’s the end). I think he’s got til end of 2025 season to get himself playing at the 2022 level. If by that point he’s not i think he’s gonna be gone either way.

I’m hoping he gets himself back to 2022 level consistently. That said i think 2024 is gonna be a washed year too much crap going on  behind the scenes and in this organization. Feels like a powder keg ready to implode more. Frankly feels like 2014 going into 2015 where you had a bad end to the regular season and then all this stuff going on and then fell flat on their face 

100% depends on who they bring in as coordinators.

And I’ll tell you this - don’t be shocked if they bring in a coordinator and name him co-head coach.  I’m almost certain that’s still on the table for the right guy. 

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

You've done nothing but spout cliches and back up your statement with as to why you can't fire a coach after 3 playoff appearances. "You just don't fire those guys!" Is not a reason.

"You just don't eat dessert before dinner!"

"Girls just don't propose to guys, it must be the other way around!"

No intelligent individual is beholden to any arbitrary rule set if they think they can make their situation better. You can do whatever you want if you think it'll make the team better.

Good organizations anticipate and do things before the bottom drops out. By your logic, if the Eagles crash and burn next season, then it will be "acceptable" to fire him, but not now even if they were to have a fear that kind of season may be on the horizon.

Don’t engage him. He’s barely a football fan, he’s certainly not an Eagles fan.  That should tell you enough of what you need to know about him. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t see Sirianni being a long term option. Even if he’s not fired, he’s going to be burned out sooner or later. Never saw a coach look like complete dogish through the week and somehow managing to top it every year. 

While part of the fanbase is saying he's holding back for the playoffs

6 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

What in the actual F?

Yeah....Kelce as a backup C and FB