1 minute ago, myerstheman said:

exactly we already have people that fall apart down the stretch don't we.

Make it 10 years in a row now after USC this season.  

4 minutes ago, myerstheman said:

Go ahead and explain it for me.  My point is if LOWIE wants to call plays then get on the sideline and call them.

If you had all of the money in the world, what would you do? I would do 2 chics at the same time.

2 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Kliff and JBC are the only 2 names you can think of?

It’s an open question feel free to tell me. Who would you perfer? 

3 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Make it 10 years in a row now after USC this season.  

So that all falls on Kliff Kingsbury?

2 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

It’s an open question feel free to tell me. Who would you perfer? 

If those are my options id rather keep BJ and have Reich come back to advise.  

1 minute ago, jwill2420 said:

So that all falls on Kliff Kingsbury?

Yes…as a HC everything that happens under you falls on you.  Especially since he is the OC during that time.

Might as well go after Chimp Kelly now for OC too.

I know people are super upset that Sirianni is coming back. I’m not as upset as most people and i kind of figured he was coming back anyway for a multitude of reasons i laid out weeks before the end of the season.

Imo I think this is a complete organizational let down and regression at every level. I think howie regressed and his only move that hit was drafting jalen Carter this past offseason. I think Sirianni regress. He was not good situationally this year and made questionable decisions amongst other things. I think his coordinators were also inexperienced and not up to the challenge. I think the players regressed, didn’t live up to expectations and really week 18 and playoffs gave up.

the thing that bothers me the most out of all of this is the fact in the last two games they gave up. They didn’t give up in the Cardinals game. The defense was not good, but they didn’t give up. The offense definitely didn’t give up. that Giants game you could see it from the moment they took the field, they didn’t really want to be there or playing. Like the cardinals game ended any chance they could beat someone. And then the Tampa Bay game I said at the beginning of the game it felt like one team was there to win a game and the other team had to be there due to the NFL forced them to play that game. I’m not so sure how sirianni and the coaching staff is going to get that team to play hard again. Their season was on the line, a chance to win a Super Bowl was on the line and  guys in that locker room might not be wearing an Eagles uniform ever again that we’re all timers for the Eagles and they looked like they didn’t care and didn’t want to be there.

To me I’m not sure many coaches come back from something like that. This wasn’t just the Eagles got their ass beat but this was they looked like they didn’t want to be there. The first loss in 2021 to Tampa I can understand. You’re just not the better team. This felt like guys checked out and went to offseason mode with the biggest game of the season.

I hope Sirianni can turn it around. I’m rooting for him because I don’t want us to be stuck looking for a coach next year. 

16 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

I didn’t think that it was needed, but i presented reasons for you fantasy football/box score watchers.

Your reason needs more context.

Texas Tech isn’t a football powerhouse. Basically an even team every year with lower end talent. The second half of their season always has the tougher big 12 teams.

With the NFL it is showing a 7 week 1st half vs a 10 week 2nd half. What’s the SOS for those weeks comparatively? 

Doc finally gonna get the sixers to the eastern conference finals 

 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I know people are super upset that Sirianni is coming back. I’m not as upset as most people and i kind of figured he was coming back anyway for a multitude of reasons i laid out weeks before the end of the season.

Imo I think this is a complete organizational let down and regression at every level. I think howie regressed and his only move that hit was drafting jalen Carter this past offseason. I think Sirianni regress. He was not good situationally this year and made questionable decisions amongst other things. I think his coordinators were also inexperienced and not up to the challenge. I think the players regressed, didn’t live up to expectations and really week 18 and playoffs gave up.

the thing that bothers me the most out of all of this is the fact in the last two games they gave up. They didn’t give up in the Cardinals game. The defense was not good, but they didn’t give up. The offense definitely didn’t give up. that Giants game you could see it from the moment they took the field, they didn’t really want to be there or playing. Like the cardinals game ended any chance they could beat someone. And then the Tampa Bay game I said at the beginning of the game it felt like one team was there to win a game and the other team had to be there due to the NFL forced them to play that game. I’m not so sure how sirianni and the coaching staff is going to get that team to play hard again. Their season was on the line, a chance to win a Super Bowl was on the line and  guys in that locker room might not be wearing an Eagles uniform ever again that we’re all timers for the Eagles and they looked like they didn’t care and didn’t want to be there.

To me I’m not sure many coaches come back from something like that. This wasn’t just the Eagles got their ass beat but this was they looked like they didn’t want to be there. The first loss in 2021 to Tampa I can understand. You’re just not the better team. This felt like guys checked out and went to offseason mode with the biggest game of the season.

I hope Sirianni can turn it around. I’m rooting for him because I don’t want us to be stuck looking for a coach next year. 

Get Hurts right, and bring in some talent at LB and S.  That will fix the majority of the issues 

Just now, Alphagrand said:

Get Hurts right, and bring in some talent at LB and S.  That will fix the majority of the issues 

Tbh i think they add at safety and Lb. But my concerns are if this team hits adversity again in 2024 are they going to just fall off a cliff again or is sirianni able to correct the ship. That’s why them giving up in those two games bothers me so much. 

5 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

Your reason needs more context.

Texas Tech isn’t a football powerhouse. Basically an even team every year with lower end talent. The second half of their season always has the tougher big 12 teams.

With the NFL it is showing a 7 week 1st half vs a 10 week 2nd half. What’s the SOS for those weeks comparatively? 

10 years of a team he’s had a huge part in falling apart…what else do you need?  He can’t adjust.  It’s literally his entire recent resume.

13 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

If those are my options id rather keep BJ and have Reich come back to advise.  

Yes…as a HC everything that happens under you falls on you.  Especially since he is the OC during that time.

Ok keep BJ …… 😂😂😂😂

3 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

10 years of a team he’s had a huge part in falling apart…what else do you need?  He can’t adjust.  It’s literally his entire recent resume.

Yeah the answer is to run it back with the guy who oversaw the biggest offensive collapse in NFL history. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Tbh i think they add at safety and Lb. But my concerns are if this team hits adversity again in 2024 are they going to just fall off a cliff again or is sirianni able to correct the ship. That’s why them giving up in those two games bothers me so much. 

Football is a game of trust.  If the offensive skill guys don’t trust the QB to make the right reads and decisions things start to erode.  If they don’t trust the coaches to dial up the right plays, same thing.  Defense even more so.  If you can’t trust the guy beside you to get his assignments right and get lined up properly it will all erode.

Hurts wasn’t right from Week 1 this season.  He was slow afoot, slow making reads and decisions, turned the ball over way too much, and settled for dead plays way too often.  The defense didn’t even have a leader on the back 7; Dean was hurt early and shouldn’t have been given a starter role without competition, Morrow was a bad FA signing and Slay/Bradberry are not leaders either.

In spite of all that, the offense still has the pieces.  It needs fine-tuning and the right OC can do that.  Defense is a different story — Howie needs to hit on draft picks and free agency there.

42 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

I don’t get all the Kings bury hate. He does a great job with QB development. Hell Johnny Manziel won a Heisman Trophy with Kliff. He coached Pat Mahommes at Texas tech Caleb Williams last season under Riley. 
 

Hurts will flourish under Kingsbury 

 

Just now, Alphagrand said:

Football is a game of trust.  If the offensive skill guys don’t trust the QB to make the right reads and decisions things start to erode.  If they don’t trust the coaches to dial up the right plays, same thing.  Defense even more so.  If you can’t trust the guy beside you to get his assignments right and get lined up properly it will all erode.

Hurts wasn’t right from Week 1 this season.  He was slow afoot, slow making reads and decisions, turned the ball over way too much, and settled for dead plays way too often.  The defense didn’t even have a leader on the back 7; Dean was hurt early and shouldn’t have been given a starter role without competition, Morrow was a bad FA signing and Slay/Bradberry are not leaders either.

In spite of all that, the offense still has the pieces.  It needs fine-tuning and the right OC can do that.  Defense is a different story — Howie needs to hit on draft picks and free agency there.

That’s why I don’t mind Kliff Kingsbury. He’s got a great track record with QBs.

Wink, Kingsbury and Sirianni 

 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

He’s good with quarterbacks he’s coach guys like Pat Mahomes had Johnny Manziel win the Heisman had Kyler Murray in conversation for MVP. He gets QBs to produce I think with the team we have here in Philadelphia with wide receivers. We have bring back swift our offensive line and if he could get the production out of Jalen hurts, I think could be a good thing again he’s not my first choice but I wouldn’t mind him

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Well ….. he took over the 32nd ranked offense when he was hired in ARI, so some context matters.

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Football is a game of trust.  If the offensive skill guys don’t trust the QB to make the right reads and decisions things start to erode.  If they don’t trust the coaches to dial up the right plays, same thing.  Defense even more so.  If you can’t trust the guy beside you to get his assignments right and get lined up properly it will all erode.

Hurts wasn’t right from Week 1 this season.  He was slow afoot, slow making reads and decisions, turned the ball over way too much, and settled for dead plays way too often.  The defense didn’t even have a leader on the back 7; Dean was hurt early and shouldn’t have been given a starter role without competition, Morrow was a bad FA signing and Slay/Bradberry are not leaders either.

In spite of all that, the offense still has the pieces.  It needs fine-tuning and the right OC can do that.  Defense is a different story — Howie needs to hit on draft picks and free agency there.

I don’t disagree with you on any of that. But when you have a chance to win a Super Bowl and there’s guys on that roster like Jason Kelce, who might be playing in his last game and everybody comes out the last two weeks and gives up that’s a problem. It tells me they’re front runners. When things are going well they’re all together and they’re going to go out there and compete. But when things started to go the opposite way, little by little, everything started to erode. And then they lost to the Cardinals and they didn’t even want to be playing.

You can’t tell me they did not give up the last two weeks. They gave up. I don’t care what other issues are on this team. The one thing you can control is how hard you play  and giving it your all. I watched the last two games and went back and rewatch it on the all 22. They are guys out there going through the motion or half assing. it tells me if things are not going well for a period of time next year, are they going to fall off a cliff again like they did or are they going to ban together and get the job done? No one can answer it until they are faced with the adversity again next year. But it’s very concerning with a majority of the core players back next year it could very well happen again. 

I’m fine with Kingsbury if it happens

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

 

Damn. I knew he wasn’t coming back but still i wish he were. Phillies needed a hitter with his approach at the plate. 

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Well ….. he took over the 32nd ranked offense when he was hired in ARI, so some context matters.

Sure, but going from Rosen to Murray is a lot of that context…