4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

I think he's going to see a lot more tush push from now on.

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

He's an imperfect GM. No GM gets them all right. He gets more right than most. I actually think it's gotten to the point where Howie's wins are so good that any time he has the slightest failure people drastically overweight them. It's hard to pay QBs big money and construct a roster without flaws. Now he has the chance to fix it. He's proven he can in the past multiple times over.

He completely whiffed 100% on the entire back 7 of the defense.    That wasn't a slight failure.  It was a complete failure.  And he painted himself into this corner with bringing back overpriced, aging CBs who are only going to decline.   He's also failed to effectively draft for the back 7 which is why they are forced to rely on signing veterans constantly.  

He's proven that he can't draft defense... multiple times over and over.    He's absolutely an imperfect GM.  He seems to be incapable of drafting defense or WR.  And when that's his track record, you have to ask exactly why he gets the final say on draft picks... don't you?

12 minutes ago, NOTW said:

 

That quote nailed it.

100% it did. The video was good as well. It ends with him calling NIck a bad coach and he's right. I don't see how Jeffrey doesn't see that he was a clown carried by his coordinators.

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

 

 

Yup.  Saw that live.  Why didn't he dive at the guy rather than trying to trip him, which is a penalty?   So, even if it was successful, it would still have been unsuccessful, because they get 15 yards and replay the down, if its not an automatic 1st.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He completely whiffed 100% on the entire back 7 of the defense.    That wasn't a slight failure.  It was a complete failure.  And he painted himself into this corner with bringing back overpriced, aging CBs who are only going to decline.   He's also failed to effectively draft for the back 7 which is why they are forced to rely on signing veterans constantly.  

He's proven that he can't draft defense... multiple times over and over.    He's absolutely an imperfect GM.  He seems to be incapable of drafting defense or WR.  And when that's his track record, you have to ask exactly why he gets the final say on draft picks... don't you?

Pretty sure there’s usually a consensus on most draft picks.  Looks that way based on their war room on draft days, anyway.  Once in a while you hear about a disagreement in there but that’s more of an outlier, imo. 

59 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

It's a chance with young coaches in general, always. Growing pains is quite literally the risk with them to begin with. It's why I've said a few times, if you hire a young coach as a GM without understanding that's a possibility, then the GM is equally complicit. 

I don't think the trend towards younger coaches in Philadelphia is appropriate. We've tried it, it's not all it's cracked up to be, and so we should probably hire a bit older than the league is trending right now. People tend to forget this, but Shanahan had quite a bit of offensive coordinator experience before becoming a head coach, a decent amount more than a lot of the other candidates recently. And that's even CONSIDERING that he's second generation behind a back to back Super Bowl winning head coach.

That's why I want a guy brought in who has called the plays before, either offensively or defensively.  I don't personally care which side it is... just make sure they have some sort of track record of it (ideally, a good track record, obviously). 

 

21 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

 

 

Watched the video, he's right.  And someone needs to play that clip for Lurie.  

37 minutes ago, twistr said:

It's funny, I don't honestly think we're far off in the talent category here, the biggest part was they played loose like they liked playing the game in 2017. 2022/23 they did somewhat, but this year they have looked tight and like it's work playing the game. Just not the same atmosphere.

That's what having a running game in your back pocket that you know you can turn to will do for you.

 

39 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

agreed.  cheap QB.   I'll fill my roster with cheap running QBs so much so that I don't even have a QB. Running QBs,  and I'd want a legit big running back.  Mariota is cheap and he was able to get 10 points in a half.  Not great,  but mid.  He costs $5M this year.

You play Madden on Rookie.

45 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Eh, I'll take that over the extreme crashing down the line Sweat has been giving them. He recognizes the play and reacts the exact way you want him to. It's just that Palmer, I think that's who it is, is a 4.3 guy and the faster athlete wins the corner. 

I'm all for bashing this team right now but that's not the play to do it on.

Lol yeah i remember seeing that play live and saying did he just try and karate kick that dude???

Hes young and needs some polish but at least he was going all out.

My high school coach would always say if youre going make a mistake do it at full speed.

 

14 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Finally someone being honest.   Unlike the Hurts/Sirianni platitudes.  

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He completely whiffed 100% on the entire back 7 of the defense.    That wasn't a slight failure.  It was a complete failure.  And he painted himself into this corner with bringing back overpriced, aging CBs who are only going to decline.   He's also failed to effectively draft for the back 7 which is why they are forced to rely on signing veterans constantly.  

He's proven that he can't draft defense... multiple times over and over.    He's absolutely an imperfect GM.  He seems to be incapable of drafting defense or WR.  And when that's his track record, you have to ask exactly why he gets the final say on draft picks... don't you?

He constructed two Super Bowl rosters in the last 6 years. Regardless of how one does it, that's the ultimate goal. To build championship rosters. Only one other GM in the sport has done that and that GM has Patrick Mahomes. And in recent memory he's proven to have done it as well as anyone in the league. Whatever criticisms you have of Howie, most GMs in the league will have bigger flaws. This is a league where a 50% hit rate on signings and picks is doing a good job.

And he's proven he can fix flaws. They had the biggest issue figuring out WR. Now have Smith and Brown. I trust him to adjust and find a way to fix the secondary. They did lead the NFL in turnover differential just last season after all. He had a down year after an epic 2022. It happens. Not remotely close to anything worth losing a job over.

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Neither do we Lane neither do we.  So frustrating having everybody see the issues clear as day but a coaching staff/players do absolutely nothing for weeks on end to make the corrections

22 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Chargers, eagles, Dallas, falcons make your choice 

 

Aren't Chargers about to lose a lot of players though?

15 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Curious who he's talking about body language and sulking 

11 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He completely whiffed 100% on the entire back 7 of the defense.    That wasn't a slight failure.  It was a complete failure.  And he painted himself into this corner with bringing back overpriced, aging CBs who are only going to decline.   He's also failed to effectively draft for the back 7 which is why they are forced to rely on signing veterans constantly.  

He's proven that he can't draft defense... multiple times over and over.    He's absolutely an imperfect GM.  He seems to be incapable of drafting defense or WR.  And when that's his track record, you have to ask exactly why he gets the final say on draft picks... don't you?

So why does he get praise and why is he untouchable?

Is there some new rule on when you can start interviews on coaches in the playoffs or something like that?

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He completely whiffed 100% on the entire back 7 of the defense.    That wasn't a slight failure.  It was a complete failure.  And he painted himself into this corner with bringing back overpriced, aging CBs who are only going to decline.   He's also failed to effectively draft for the back 7 which is why they are forced to rely on signing veterans constantly.  

He's proven that he can't draft defense... multiple times over and over.    He's absolutely an imperfect GM.  He seems to be incapable of drafting defense or WR.  And when that's his track record, you have to ask exactly why he gets the final say on draft picks... don't you?

2 hours ago, Arsenal79 said:

No one was calling for Matt Patricia except the idiot coach, and you I guess.  And we all saw how that turned out.

You're not getting it...

Even Ricky Bo gets it

 

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Curious who he's talking about body language and sulking 

AJ and DeVonta were the guys I saw constantly doing it.

9 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Pretty sure there’s usually a consensus on most draft picks.  Looks that way based on their war room on draft days, anyway.  Once in a while you hear about a disagreement in there but that’s more of an outlier, imo. 

Sure.  Its a consensus.   Who hired the guys that are agreeing with Howie?   How many front office execs have had beefs with Howie and the Eagles since Howie got into his position?    Like I said... why is he the guy with the last say?  

 We know all about Louis Riddick, but I'm pretty sure there were others.  Riddick has certainly alluded to multiple.  Was Licht one of those guys?  Ryan Grigson was another, I believe.  And then there was the whole Joe Douglas... who is in charge stuff.    

 

When one guy is 'in charge' for a really long time, and during the entire time, they can't draft defense or WRs, no matter how many times they dip into that pool, its a systemic failure, and the entire system needs to be overhauled.  

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Even Ricky Bo gets it

 

I mean, he’s not wrong on the defense. Sheil said it the other day. I can’t remember an eagles defense being this horrific. I know we had some bad defenses when i was growing up watching them and some with Billy Davis. But this one was up there for the worst I’ve seen in my life. They might just be the worst defense in the league based off their last 7 games 

So it’s gonna be belichick lol

 

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

So why does he get praise and why is he untouchable?

He's Jeff Lurie's love child?    Who knows?   He makes trades... and people get wow'd. 

But, his failures have been around for forever.   He had a miracle season in 2017.  Literally everything he touched turned to gold.   But, relying on free agency to constantly rebuild a defensive back 7 year after year after year due to his failures in the draft catches up to you eventually.  This year, every single back 7 move he tried blew up in his face.  Every single one.  He still can't draft defensive players or WR.