If Lions win they will be first dome team in NFL to win outside in conf title game. Dome teams are currently 0-13 when they play outside in conference title games. 

18 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Does he actually have sources?

No

He probably read it from Fowler's blog today.

Solak was saying on the pod with Shiel that since they have only interviewed a black guy Jerrod Johnson and Kliff for OC that Kliff is likely the OC and Johnson was just to fulfill rooney rules. 

The NFL coaching circuit really isn't that complicated.

Like many jobs, there is a lot of nepotism to get your foot in the door as an NFL coach.  Once you are there, it helps a bit less and it's more about what you offer.  10+ years ago, things were more institution based.  As in, AR/Belichick/etc were the ivy league institutions of coaching.  Teams wanted someone that studied under them.

Now, the pendulum has swung.  Teams DON'T want someone that marinated on offense under an offensive HC or on defense under a defensive HC.  They want someone that ran the defense, ran an offense, called the plays.  It gives you something to evaluate and extrapolate.  It's guesswork whether or not other guys can make the jump.

 

The other side of that coin...10+ years ago, top up-and-comers wanted an OC/DC job under these institution-level HCs.  Now, they want to be left alone.  It makes it easier to jump to HC jobs when they can say they did it themselves.  That's why a coach like Mcdermott is probably limited to a Desai-type in his DC search.  He's not going to get the cream of the crop.  And that's why a defensive HC will have their pick of top OC candidates (assuming there is something to work with on offense).

17 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

If Lions win they will be first dome team in NFL to win outside in conf title game. Dome teams are currently 0-13 when they play outside in conference title games. 

How many of those were played in SF or somewhere warm? 

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Sydney Brown just had his ACL surgery. Anyone know why they would wait this long to do it? It's been almost a month?

Speaking from my own experience of busting an ACL, you have to do pre-surgery rehab type work to get the inflammation around it down and strengthen a knee a little after the tear.
 

Now I’m no athlete so that maybe played into it but my surgeon didn’t operate straight away either.

Bringing in Kliff Kingsbury to run the offense is the perfect analogue to replacing Desai with Patricia.  I'm not saying it'll have the same result, but it's a striking parallel.

They wanted to take a swing at a new direction and no longer trusted the incumbent guy to call the plays or run the show.  In name, they actually didn't fire the guy (Desai) in charge, just emasculated him and stripped him of all responsibility while trying to get a quick look at how someone else did with the keys to the car.

That's exactly what they are doing with Siri and the new OC, especially someone like Kingsbury with HC experience and a defined system.  They aren't changing the title on the website, but Kingsbury will be in charge.  

The easy decision comes if 2024 is a bad year.  Desai and Patricia went out with the garbage and so too would Siri and Kingsbury.  But if Patricia had, miraculously, turned the D around...he keeps the job.  If Kingsbury turns the offense around, you are going to have to keep him on board by making him the HC.  That's going to be an epic coup.

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Bringing in Kliff Kingsbury to run the offense is the perfect analogue to replacing Desai with Patricia.  I'm not saying it'll have the same result, but it's a striking parallel.

They wanted to take a swing at a new direction and no longer trusted the incumbent guy to call the plays or run the show.  In name, they actually didn't fire the guy (Desai) in charge, just emasculated him and stripped him of all responsibility while trying to get a quick look at how someone else did with the keys to the car.

That's exactly what they are doing with Siri and the new OC, especially someone like Kingsbury with HC experience and a defined system.  They aren't changing the title on the website, but Kingsbury will be in charge.  

The easy decision comes if 2024 is a bad year.  Desai and Patricia went out with the garbage and so too would Siri and Kingsbury.  But if Patricia had, miraculously, turned the D around...he keeps the job.  If Kingsbury turns the offense around, you are going to have to keep him on board by making him the HC.  That's going to be an epic coup.

Thats a silly narrative

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

Thats a silly narrative

So if the Eagles have a top 3 offense next year and Hurts has a great year, you think our OC won't be a HC in 2025?  That's a simple fact, not a narrative.

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

So if the Eagles have a top 3 offense next year and Hurts has a great year, you think our OC won't be a HC in 2025?  That's a simple fact, not a narrative.

Monken doesn't seem to be getting a HC job but probably so.  But I don't think Lurie fires Sirriani in that case unless the Eagles have a top 3 O but lose badly in a wild card game and OC is set to leave.

I do think Fangio has more job security than Sirriani right now.  If O fizzles in 2024 then you're likely to see Sirriani & OC gone and a Slowik or LaFleur type in as HC keeping Fangio as DC

It’s not going to be Kingsbury, I wouldn’t worry.

Kliff has been in charge by himself and had good offenses. I don't want to hire him, but it's not a Patricia/Desai situation who have never had any solo success.

7 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Monken doesn't seem to be getting a HC job but probably so.  But I don't think Lurie fires Sirriani in that case unless the Eagles have a top 3 O but lose badly in a wild card game and OC is set to leave.

I do think Fangio has more job security than Sirriani right now.  If O fizzles in 2024 then you're likely to see Sirriani & OC gone and a Slowik or LaFleur type in as HC keeping Fangio as DC

If the Eagles have a resurgent 2024...who is the most valuable coach on the team?  The OC or Siri?

13 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

So if the Eagles have a top 3 offense next year and Hurts has a great year, you think our OC won't be a HC in 2025?  That's a simple fact, not a narrative.

No thats your opinion and a silly, speculative one

if they have a top offense the oc will be the oc again in 2025 or a hc elsewhere

Just now, eagle45 said:

If the Eagles have a resurgent 2024...who is the most valuable coach on the team?  The OC or Siri?

I would love to have that problem.  

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

If the Eagles have a resurgent 2024...who is the most valuable coach on the team?  The OC or Siri?

Who is most responsible for Ravens sucess? Mike Macdonald, Monken or Harbaugh?

6 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

 

if they have a top offense the oc will be the oc again in 2025 or a hc elsewhere

Your predictive abilities are incredible.

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

If the Eagles have a resurgent 2024...who is the most valuable coach on the team?  The OC or Siri?

The OC, sirianni clearly isn't the brains behind any offensive scheming because otherwise they wouldn't have regressed as badly as they did this year. 

Greg Lewis potential candidate for OC?  Coached under Doug here in 2016, coached under Andy and won Two Super Bowla and now this season on the Ravens.  Trying to figure out the mystery person they have their eyes on of the remaining teams.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Does he actually have sources?

No

Sorry. To my understanding, no. 

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Greg Lewis potential candidate for OC?  Coached under Doug here in 2016, coached under Andy and won Two Super Bowla and now this season on the Ravens.  Trying to figure out the mystery person they have their eyes on of the remaining teams.

He did a great job with Agholor and Toney in KC.    Seems reasonable to put him in charge of Hurts and play calling.  

16 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Who is most responsible for Ravens sucess? Mike Macdonald, Monken or Harbaugh?

Here we go again with the Siri is Harbaugh stuff.

37 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Thats a silly narrative

No one falls up more than Kliff

41 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Bringing in Kliff Kingsbury to run the offense is the perfect analogue to replacing Desai with Patricia.  I'm not saying it'll have the same result, but it's a striking parallel.

They wanted to take a swing at a new direction and no longer trusted the incumbent guy to call the plays or run the show.  In name, they actually didn't fire the guy (Desai) in charge, just emasculated him and stripped him of all responsibility while trying to get a quick look at how someone else did with the keys to the car.

That's exactly what they are doing with Siri and the new OC, especially someone like Kingsbury with HC experience and a defined system.  They aren't changing the title on the website, but Kingsbury will be in charge.  

The easy decision comes if 2024 is a bad year.  Desai and Patricia went out with the garbage and so too would Siri and Kingsbury.  But if Patricia had, miraculously, turned the D around...he keeps the job.  If Kingsbury turns the offense around, you are going to have to keep him on board by making him the HC.  That's going to be an epic coup.

Kliff isn’t anything new though besides name. It’s all the same dumb stuff Sirianni did.