2 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Who's the most tradable player on the team? As in it makes sense to trade him and he actually has value.

Jordan Davis

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

No I’m actually being serious. They even have a banner

I wonder if the Eagles will unveil a banner next year to say best record after 11 weeks (2023 season)

41 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Well, when you put it THAT way…

3 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Who's the most tradable player on the team? As in it makes sense to trade him and he actually has value.

Reddick

Just now, Outlaw said:

Well, when you put it THAT way…

Reddick

I think you’d get more for Sweat, just due to age and versatility

3 hours ago, kiwieagle said:

The Brendon Staley comparison is a good one. It just kept getting worse and worse and worse. The last seven weeks have felt like that as well.

Having said, Staley never remotely had anywhere close to the success Siri has had. But if the locker room is lost despite what players say publicly, I don't see how he gets it back. That's why I think Howie / Lurie interviews with the leaders on this team (Hurts, Brown, Smith, Johnson, Kelce, Cox, Grahama and Slay) will determine whether he is back or not.

I don't think its a problem, everyone's back.

But if there are changes,  talking with those players would I think would be important.   I would talk to Jalen and ask him what he thinks about Siri and Brian Johnson.   If Hurts,  and much of the offense likes Brian Johnson,  and would prefer Brian Johnson's offense instead of Brian Johnson's calling plays from Siri's offense.  

We could guess that Brian Johnson is a good one who was hamstrung by Siri's offense.   It may or may not be true.   But Hurts could vote on whether he would work better with all Brian or all Siri. 

If they do want to make a change,  replacing coordinators is a way to go.   Keeping Brian and getting a new HC is another way to go.   Get a defensive HC,  maybe Pete Carroll, (running QB,  a lot of running,  a great defense,  Super Bowl)  and Brian Johnson on offense.

1 minute ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I think you’d get more for Sweat, just due to age and versatility

He's got the knees of a 50 year old.

1 minute ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I think you’d get more for Sweat, just due to age and versatility

I might have agreed with this before the season. But it looks like he clearly has playing limitations. Plus who knows how much his knee has left. 

3 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I think you’d get more for Sweat, just due to age and versatility

Sweat’s knees sound like Rice Krispies. 

4 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I think you’d get more for Sweat, just due to age and versatility

Doubt it…Reddick would bring a nice return 

8 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Who's the most tradable player on the team? As in it makes sense to trade him and he actually has value.

I don't want to trade him, but AJ Brown could bring a haul and his salary is about to explode after next year.

1 minute ago, McMVP said:

Doubt it…Reddick would bring a nice return 

Reddick vs Sweat in terms of trade value isn’t even close. Other teams did watch Sweat play this year too, ya know? Jeez. 

56 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Defense headed off into the non-playing season the week they moved to Patricia calling the defense. 

18 minutes ago, kiwieagle said:

Are the Lakers even in a play-in spot right now? This whiner who has quit on more teams than any other superstar better worry about his own damn team first.

Oh and while he is at it, he can give some shooting lessons to his kid. Dude went 0-7 in his first college start....

I get you’re mad, but LeBron is the GOAT of the NBA lol. His scoring record might never be touched. 

10 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I don't want to trade him, but AJ Brown could bring a haul and his salary is about to explode after next year.

Given current circumstances, I have a hard time seeing how AJ Brown isn’t traded during the summer 

6 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

I get you’re mad, but LeBron is the GOAT of the NBA lol. His scoring record might never be touched. 

To people under 15 maybe

9 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I don't want to trade him, but AJ Brown could bring a haul and his salary is about to explode after next year.

Proven #1 athletic, strong, great hands receivers don't just fall out of the sky, you know?

Listening to bo and Berman on their podcast today, i agree with Bo that howie is more responsible for the defense being as bad as it is. Cause the way it was constructed was ultimately had a bunch of position with high concern for failure. Before the season, I brought up multiple points where I thought they were going to have major issues. And they turned out to be the exact points I said.

Before the season began and at the end of the preseason myself and others got into the discussion of the safety position. I said their safety position is an issue due to their personnel. you didn’t know and shouldn’t just bank on Blankenship staying healthy for 17 games and then the playoffs. He never had to do it. Plus, you had a small sample size to say he could legitimately be a competent starter. Wallace was a JAG. it’s why he was so cheap and Steelers let him go. Evans never stayed healthy in his career and you are asking a 3rd round rookie to just step in and contribute to a SB team year one. It reminded me of the eagles plan at WR in 2020 that blew up in their face. Then adding a player in byard who was really struggling with the titans. Like if they would’ve watched the film from this season and compared it to last season they’d have noticed even vrabel couldn’t get him playing like he was in previous seasons.

because you have all these questions at safety, you couldn’t afford to be awful or even bad at linebacker. They had Dean who hadn’t proven anything and came into the league with an injury. even if he panned out they had poor depth. Morrow is a back up type player. Ditto on elliss. There’s a reason why the Bears decided to let morrow go and go after TJ Edwards and Edmunds.  It’s a massive issue if you are going to sign two washes linebackers a couple weeks before the season and expected them to contribute enough to make your unit competent. They are fortunate Cunningham wasn’t completely finished cause sadly he gave them more than anyone. So, that whole set up was doomed to begin with. Because you’ve neglected the position and just assumed Dean would make a jump and had poor depth.

so then you have two positional unit groups with a ton of questions. And then you go move the corner where you have two 30+ year old corners. Add on, you had the data that has shown James Bradberry always has one real good season and then declines. It’s been his career. And now he’s older. So you should have known that that was probably gonna be a poorer investment. Then instead of just being in 1 contract with a 30+ year old corner, they decided to extend Darius slay at 32 years old. so we had two 30+ years corners, and the likelihood that both of them would stay healthy for all 17 games and not have to deal with that aspect was very minuscule. ShEli talked about it all off-season. So you set yourself up for failure there. You could say they had some young guys in the fold but none of them had experience and you’re sitting there trying to be a Super Bowl contender just hoping bradberry and slay don’t fall off a cliff and can stay healthy. The likelihood you get a young player with very minimal experience to just go out there and play at the level you need them to to get to a Super Bowl was very hard to see working out. So your plan was poorly constructed to begin with 

I really can’t blame howie for the entire failures  of the defensive line. I think some guys just didn’t play up to the level we’ve seen and guys didn’t progress like they showed during 2022. I think that unit has enough talent to be much better than what they were. You can blame howie for Jordan Davis potentially not being worth where they selected him. But that entire line did not play up to the expectations you would’ve thought. That’s about the only position i don’t think they were set up for potential major issues.

Don’t get me wrong, coaching is definitely a problem on that side of the ball. Desai and Patricia aren’t good. But even if they would’ve gotten Fangio to run that defense, I still think they would’ve been bottom half of the league defense due to the bad personnel at linebacker and safety along with slay getting hurt and bradberry being finished. We had way too many positions that had question marks heading into the season and you got below average to bad nfl level play.

So you set up a good portion of the defense potentially have these major issue and knowing you had a lesser experienced defensive coordinator. I don’t think the Eagles should have been nearly as bad as they were on defense the second half of the year. but you knew there was a chance for some major regression based of the decisions made during the offseason in what personnel howie decided to let go and what personnel they kept and how it was all constructed. 

1 hour ago, jamiller said:

WE NEED A f'ing LINEBACKER even more than a CB

Nope.  Look at the PFFs.  Slay was the only CB with an above average PFF,  and it wasn't really all that great,  and do we think that he's going to get better?   Someone like Kelee Ringo might become good,  but we're talking about 3 CB positions and only 1 CB is not below average.   They need talent there.  Additionally,  CBs are more expensive,  so you could buy a more expensive CB with the same draft pick you could use to get a cheaper LB.  

Others might have a different opinion about which CB,  haven't seen their combines,  but it's clear that CB is the most pressing need on defense.  10 CBs with numbers,  and 9 were below average.   Get a great CB in the draft with the first round pick,  unless there are none there.   I'm good with Dean and VanSumeren as the ILBs next year.  Add one. Day 3 versatile, raw, good measurables.  But the Eagles could add 3-4  CB-S. 

10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Listening to bo and Berman on their podcast today, i agree with Bo that howie is more responsible for the defense being as bad as it is. Cause the way it was constructed was ultimately had a bunch of position with high concern for failure. Before the season, I brought up multiple points where I thought they were going to have major issues. And they turned out to be the exact points I said.

Before the season began and at the end of the preseason myself and others got into the discussion of the safety position. I said their safety position is an issue due to their personnel. you didn’t know and shouldn’t just bank on Blankenship staying healthy for 17 games and then the playoffs. He never had to do it. Plus, you had a small sample size to say he could legitimately be a competent starter. Wallace was a JAG. it’s why he was so cheap and Steelers let him go. Evans never stayed healthy in his career and you are asking a 3rd round rookie to just step in and contribute to a SB team year one. It reminded me of the eagles plan at WR in 2020 that blew up in their face. Then adding a player in byard who was really struggling with the titans. Like if they would’ve watched the film from this season and compared it to last season they’d have noticed even vrabel couldn’t get him playing like he was in previous seasons.

because you have all these questions at safety, you couldn’t afford to be awful or even bad at linebacker. They had Dean who hadn’t proven anything and came into the league with an injury. even if he panned out they had poor depth. Morrow is a back up type player. Ditto on elliss. There’s a reason why the Bears decided to let morrow go and go after TJ Edwards and Edmunds.  It’s a massive issue if you are going to sign two washes linebackers a couple weeks before the season and expected them to contribute enough to make your unit competent. They are fortunate Cunningham wasn’t completely finished cause sadly he gave them more than anyone. So, that whole set up was doomed to begin with. Because you’ve neglected the position and just assumed Dean would make a jump and had poor depth.

so then you have two positional unit groups with a ton of questions. And then you go move the corner where you have two 30+ year old corners. Add on, you had the data that has shown James Bradberry always has one real good season and then declines. It’s been his career. And now he’s older. So you should have known that that was probably gonna be a poorer investment. Then instead of just being in 1 contract with a 30+ year old corner, they decided to extend Darius slay at 32 years old. so we had two 30+ years corners, and the likelihood that both of them would stay healthy for all 17 games and not have to deal with that aspect was very minuscule. ShEli talked about it all off-season. So you set yourself up for failure there. You could say they had some young guys in the fold but none of them had experience and you’re sitting there trying to be a Super Bowl contender just hoping bradberry and slay don’t fall off a cliff and can stay healthy. The likelihood you get a young player with very minimal experience to just go out there and play at the level you need them to to get to a Super Bowl was very hard to see working out. So your plan was poorly constructed to begin with 

I really can’t blame howie for the entire failures  of the defensive line. I think some guys just didn’t play up to the level we’ve seen and guys didn’t progress like they showed during 2022. I think that unit has enough talent to be much better than what they were. You can blame howie for Jordan Davis potentially not being worth where they selected him. But that entire line did not play up to the expectations you would’ve thought. That’s about the only position i don’t think they were set up for potential major issues.

Don’t get me wrong, coaching is definitely a problem on that side of the ball. Desai and Patricia aren’t good. But even if they would’ve gotten Fangio to run that defense, I still think they would’ve been bottom half of the league defense due to the bad personnel at linebacker and safety along with slay getting hurt and bradberry being finished. We had way too many positions that had question marks heading into the season and you got below average to bad nfl level play.

So you set up a good portion of the defense potentially have these major issue and knowing you had a lesser experienced defensive coordinator. I don’t think the Eagles should have been nearly as bad as they were on defense the second half of the year. but you knew there was a chance for some major regression based of the decisions made during the offseason in what personnel howie decided to let go and what personnel they kept and how it was all constructed. 

I’m so tired of hearing about the Fangio system - done with it, tbh.  Our next defense needs to be from another tree/system.  Please. 

17 minutes ago, Westbrook#36 said:

Proven #1 athletic, strong, great hands receivers don't just fall out of the sky, you know?

Which is why I don't want to trade him. The question was who is the most tradeable with the most value. 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

I’m so tired of hearing about the Fangio system - done with it, tbh.  Our next defense needs to be from another tree/system.  Please. 

That Hass to be an organizational philosophy change. I don’t disagree with you. It is not a good defense anymore. The Dolphins showed you that it wasn’t a good defense when they faced better quarterbacks. They were fortunate that bills game wasn’t a route in week 18 because Josh Allen just made dumb decisions. Patrick Mahomes with an offense that got shut down by the Raiders was able to move the ball down the field and score 26 points. That is one of the better points per game this year for them 

42 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Who's the most tradable player on the team? As in it makes sense to trade him and he actually has value.

It’s likely aj brown as most tradable but it doesn’t make sense. Most value you’d get would be hurts as it’s a Qb driven league and there’s a big time need for QBs. organizations around the nfl will believe he’ll can get back to 2022. Again doesn’t make sense contractually nor do i think the eagles believe he can’t be 2022 hurrs again   

Good old reliable sixers….. (until May that is)

Was this the one and only play that went over the middle? 
 

 

Which leads me to a non-playing season disclosure. I love to reimagine the roster and think of ways of how to improve it. I might suggest trading someone based on prior trades or perceived value. Suggesting a trade doesn't mean I want to get rid of a player.  If I want to trade a player I will clearly say, I hope the Eagles find a way to trade "insert player here". 

Tag yourself if you also like to play with roster shuffling ideas and would like to sign this disclosure.