Read something really funny today..."Dak Prescott MVP...Most Valuable Padder"...good stuff.😂

29 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

The ravens defense is getting a lot of shine this season, could be a product of a ton of talent… in any case, McDonald generally plays C3 and mixes in other zone coverages with below average C1 and blitz usage (compared to the league). They deploy a lot of heavy nickel where the safeties can play in the slot and aren’t reliant on light boxes as a method of bolstering coverage.

The composition of their DL is similar to ours with a mix of body types, the back seven is a revelation compared to what we watch on a weekly basis.

That raven D has 160 blitzes to the eagles 162 blitzes but the ravens have 60 sacks off two less blitzes to the eagles 43 sacks???

Difference is Macdonald does a really good job disguising his blitzes and even when he rushes just 4 hes bringing that 4th from the nickel, the safety maybe a LB where as eagles just rely on the front 4 DL.

Also helps that ravens have LBs that can cover and versatile DBs that can line up all over.

Eagles have some DL and nothing but turds behind it...☹️

 

 

 

What’s the point of keeping him if you need to change everything else around him to that magnitude? What does he bring to the table as a coach? If they keep him it would only be due to arbitrary equity logic and not confidence he can fix any of this issues. There’s no way in hell they can have confidence he’d fix any of their issues after what they showed this year. Coaching so bad the entire NFL world mocked it.

I don't think the odd 5-2 is working for this defense.  (Captain obvious, none of it is working)....but I think this may be more of a cause than we think.  

We are clogging the line with bodies that don't really generate pass rush and leaving the middle of the field open.  How often do we see Sweat/Cox/Davis/Williams (or insert any 3 DTs) with Reddick in a 2 point stance?

With our absurd DT investment, that sounds like a lot of talent on the field that gets them all involved.  Sounds good.  But it's a lot of big bodies that don't generate movement in the pass rush, funnels all our push into one clogged area, leaves the middle of the field wide open, and is the reason the DC is infuriating all of you by needing to have Reddick drop into coverage.

23 minutes ago, Traveler Vic said:

The monumental collapse is not just Between Hurts and Siri. It is on many different levels coaching, drafting, philosophy, etc.. etc… Hurts and Siri are part of it, but  not the entirety.

I would put drafting at the very end of the list. I do think when the whole team looks bad, I can’t blame the QB and excuse the coach. When I see the same thing over and over since week one and it’s not changed or addressed, I look at the coaching staff. Nothing on this team looked intentional and schematically sound. 
 

 

While Seth Joyner isn't wrong about this team, he comes off a total clown 90% of the time, and this is coming from someone who grew up loving the Eagles fang green defenses under Buddy Ryan. First of all, this dude is constantly negative even when things are going well. Second, he is clearly a person who is so stubborn and set in his way that he thinks the NFL should still be played like it was in the 90's. Lastly, it's hard to take a guy seriously who is constantly so negative about a franchise who won a SB and made it back to another in the last 8 years while his Eagles teams despite all of the hype never won a damn thing. Him and Farzetta together is just downright cringe. When you are on a panel and Mikey Miss is the practical voice of reason among the group that is saying something.

9 minutes ago, NOTW said:

 

 

if this lame duck coach stays it shows that howie and lurie only want a puppet they can control

1 hour ago, pisceschica said:

Was this the one and only play that went over the middle? 
 

 

The skinny post deep to smitty was also over the middle. 
 

they’ve attacked the blitz with WR screens and curls over and over. Negligence at its finest. 

The head coach needs to go and it's not even about a knee jerk reaction to the collapse down this stretch. It's about what obviously happened to the team during the collapse. When you are a CEO head coach and your only job is to motivate the team and get them ready to play and they quit listening to the message and aren't motivated or ready to play well two plus two equals four. That team went out last night in a playoff game and looked completely disinterested and lost. Also, if you need to have two great coordinators in place to make your coach look like he belongs, he doesn't. So for that crowd you are already admitting he isn't the answer. I don't like to see someone lose their job but it's obvious it needs to be done.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s likely aj brown as most tradable but it doesn’t make sense. Most value you’d get would be hurts as it’s a Qb driven league and there’s a big time need for QBs. organizations around the nfl will believe he’ll can get back to 2022. Again doesn’t make sense contractually nor do i think the eagles believe he can’t be 2022 hurrs again   

Yeah I think the Reddick one was best. Age 30 season coming up, in line for a massive extension. Don't think I see them paying big money to Sweat and Reddick. Sweat's much younger but might be older in football terms because of the knee. Wonder what his value is...

Brown is only gone if he forces himself out. Howie doesn't wanna go back to the drawing board at WR.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Watch. The. Games.

I do.

I do believe, generally, that PFF does a good job.  I'd say that I thought VanSumeren did well, and he had an above average PFF of 69.5. 

here's PFF on WR/TE/RB

Above Average (4)
WR (2) - Brown, Smith
TE (2) - Goedert, Calcaterra

Below Average (10)
WR (4) - OZ, Quez, Covey, Julio
TE (2) - Stoll, Albert O
RB (4) - Swift, Gainwell, Scott, Penny

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

I’m so tired of hearing about the Fangio system - done with it, tbh.  Our next defense needs to be from another tree/system.  Please. 

The league figured out the Fangio system.

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

I am surprised that Patricia still hasn’t been fired.  His elevation reeks of Howie interference.  I actually think Desai was dealt a bad hand.  Not sure his assistants were his choices.  If so, that’s a black eye for him.  He started to get creative and the bottom fell out.  He had nothing at LB and S and it got even worse.  Bradberry was exposed without S help.  Howie was hamstrung during free agency waiting on June 30 money and used what he had poorly trying to bandaid what appeared to be the better players from last year’s D with failures with high draft pedigrees.  He also sidestepped from the rebuild (and traded away a bunch of draft capital - a huge failure in my view.)  But being so close to an overachieving run in 2022 did that to the team and most fans.

In the review with Nick, he has some questions to answer.  Johnson isn’t good at play calling.  Who does he get to do that?  How does he update his offense and what specifically does he plan for disguises.  His limited use of motion is simply to feel out the D   

Speaking of D.  The need to abandon Rocker and Washburn approach and stunt and mix things up.  Man they need new blood at coaches and players.  And man, they need to toughen the practices.  I think the fluff was an overreaction to the decimation of the line to injuries and I think that is more Howie and Lurie than Nick but that has to stop.  Nick’s job is on the line.  He is going to have to fire some people and needs a defensive pass coordinator bad.

So the rebuilding needs to restart.  But with whom?

Kelce retires, Cox leaves and so should BG.  That’s going to be detrimental to the cap but that’s okay.  Rip off the bandaid.  Only team free agents I would consider are Lovato and Mann although Lovato is old so that would have to be real team friendly.  Maybe Swift but only on a team friendly deal. @austinfan is right. This isn’t a one year project. 

They tried run it back again. It failed…again. Howie learned nothing

and we gotta Clean up this dead money before hurts real cap damage arrives

2 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Yeah I think the Reddick one was best. Age 30 season coming up, in line for a massive extension. Don't think I see them paying big money to Sweat and Reddick.

Brown is only gone if he forces himself out. Howie doesn't wanna go back to the drawing board at WR.

Sweat needs an extension after this year as he’d only have 1 year left. I think only one is getting an extension. Frankly sweat is younger but he is coming off a really down year so maybe they strike and get a better deal for the team. With the cap they have i tend to think the eagles are gonna make a splash and likely add another solid piece. Guessing the splash is either corner or safety. And linebacker is the other solid piece. I’d go all in on jaylon Johnson if he reaches FA. He solves one corner spot for a while. He’s still young. 

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Putting the cart before the horse here, but let’s say we fire Sirianni…

* Lurie has never hired a retread. 

* His last four coaches were on the offensive side of the ball. 

* We know he values a prolific passing offense above all else. 

So where does that leave us? Ben Johnson, Bobby Slowik and Frank Smith?

Johnson’s put together some good offenses that can win both passing and running l, and has gotten more out of Goff than McVay could without talking into the headset at the snap. 

Slowik and Smith both come from the Shanny tree. Their use of motion, which we rarely use, has proven to put defenses in a bind and make life easier for their QBs and playmakers. 

I'll throw a couple of dark horses in there. Mike Kafka and Jim Bob Cooter 

24 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don't think the odd 5-2 is working for this defense.  (Captain obvious, none of it is working)....but I think this may be more of a cause than we think.  

We are clogging the line with bodies that don't really generate pass rush and leaving the middle of the field open.  How often do we see Sweat/Cox/Davis/Williams (or insert any 3 DTs) with Reddick in a 2 point stance?

With our absurd DT investment, that sounds like a lot of talent on the field that gets them all involved.  Sounds good.  But it's a lot of big bodies that don't generate movement in the pass rush, funnels all our push into one clogged area, leaves the middle of the field wide open, and is the reason the DC is infuriating all of you by needing to have Reddick drop into coverage.

They ran the 5 DL looks to try and mask the LB suckage 

8 minutes ago, kiwieagle said:

* We know he values a prolific passing offense above all else. 

how do we know this?  I know that many have said that, but I haven't actually read any quotes about that.

34 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don't think the odd 5-2 is working for this defense.  (Captain obvious, none of it is working)....but I think this may be more of a cause than we think.  

We are clogging the line with bodies that don't really generate pass rush and leaving the middle of the field open.  How often do we see Sweat/Cox/Davis/Williams (or insert any 3 DTs) with Reddick in a 2 point stance?

With our absurd DT investment, that sounds like a lot of talent on the field that gets them all involved.  Sounds good.  But it's a lot of big bodies that don't generate movement in the pass rush, funnels all our push into one clogged area, leaves the middle of the field wide open, and is the reason the DC is infuriating all of you by needing to have Reddick drop into coverage.

Hater of the 5-2 alignment the moment I saw it.  Both the run D and pass rush suffered after it was implemented.  

Reddick has a first round replacement.  I like Smith a lot as a prospect...his rookie year was a wash, but the overall talent of the team is going to erode fast if you just keep first rounders on the bench for fun.

Reddick is going to trend down from 2022 and likely 2023 too.  Get something while he's still a big name.  

The Eagles current first round pick is #22.  This is the sweet zone for Howie.  Since 2010 when the Eagles have selected in the 20s, it’s been:

2011 — Danny Watkins (23)

2014 — Marcus Smith (26)

2015 — Nelson Agholor (20)

2019 — Andre Dillard (22)

2020 — Jalen Reagor (21)

 

 

Does Howie dare not trade out?

7 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The Eagles current first round pick is #22.  This is the sweet zone for Howie.  Since 2010 when the Eagles have selected in the 20s, it’s been:

2011 — Danny Watkins (23)

2014 — Marcus Smith (26)

2015 — Nelson Agholor (20)

2019 — Andre Dillard (22)

2020 — Jalen Reagor (21)

 

 

Does Howie dare not trade out?

They are going to need to add a lot of talent this draft.  Unless they really like a player at a position of need, a trade back should be in the cards.

32 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Speaking of teams that collapse and bad coaching decisions