23 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Lamar reached the playoffs as a rookie.  Took over midway through the season at 21 and finished the year 6-1 to take the Ravens to the playoffs (they were 4-5 before he took over)  then he won his first of two MVPs the following year in his first full season as a starter.

A lot of excuses for Harper and a lot of hate for Lamar.  But ita funny how you get so defensive about Lamar when Harper in double the time in professional sports he has accomplished hardly anymore than Lamar has.

 

Lamar has so much more responsibility as the most important person on the football field. Bryce can't control the other 8 batters. 

Lamar is 57% completion with 6TD 6 INT and 26 sacks  in only 6 games

13 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

I'll be honest and say I have my doubts this is actually based on 'connections' but I think it's easy to guess that certain players didn't like tough coaching and work.

That’s pretty incredible. 

 

Lamar suffers from the fact that in the playoffs good defenses simply aren't going to let you do what you do best, or at least they will slow it down as much as possible.  Every QB at some point has to adjust.  The Chiefs offense got to a point where defenses backed up and said "you're not going to throw over us; we'll make you pick your way down the field 5-10 yards at a time."  Reid and Mahomes have been good enough to counter-adjust.  Burrow is having to make the same adjustments in CIN.  With the Eagles, defenses have adjusted to slowing and stopping the RPO with disguised looks.  Hurts wasn't able to run as efficiently as last season to extend drives.

Jackson has been a much better pro than I thought he would be.  I pictured him as an RG III who would run until he got pulverized, and his career would be similarly short.  The Ravens built a roster and an offensive scheme around his skills, and it has worked very well to this point in his career -- although his injury history does make me wonder about his longevity.  He's got to build on his game to succeed in the playoffs, though.  At present, I don't see any way he can lead the Ravens to a Super Bowl title.  He can be a passenger while the defense wins one -- but he won't lead them there.  

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

I get that the PB isn't what it used to be, but there are people who think both are bad...

2 hours ago, RLC said:

I get that the PB isn't what it used to be, but there are people who think both are bad...

Jalen wasn’t perfect last year, but let’s be honest there was no bigger bright spot than him on the team, while playing with a knee injury. 

14 hours ago, eglz1 said:

I don't get the Taylor Swift hate either. I wouldn't recognize one of her songs if I heard it but she seems gift wrapped for the NFL to appeal to a demographic that for the most part has tolerated the NFL because of their significant others. I don't know that she appeals only to preteen girls, it seems like their mothers like her too.

Taylor's career is close to 20 years; early 2006/2007. So some of those mothers of the pre/teens were also teenagers/early 20's when she first came out. 

Quez!

44 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Lamar reached the playoffs as a rookie.  Took over midway through the season at 21 and finished the year 6-1 to take the Ravens to the playoffs (they were 4-5 before he took over)  then he won his first of two MVPs the following year in his first full season as a starter.

A lot of excuses for Harper and a lot of hate for Lamar.  But ita funny how you get so defensive about Lamar when Harper in double the time in professional sports he has accomplished hardly anymore than Lamar has.

 

MLB has more career longevity. Can't compare years to years because of that. Running QBs may get 10-12 years on the outside whereas an MLB star hitter can be around for 20.

29 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Lamar has so much more responsibility as the most important person on the football field. Bryce can't control the other 8 batters. 

Lamar is 57% completion with 6TD 6 INT and 26 sacks  in only 6 games

I tried. He’s talking about bryce didn’t have success until year 11 and 12. Wins and losses maybe but again he’s not on the mound pitching nor controlling 8 other at bats. but his individual performance was a lot better than what Lamar has been most of the time in the playoffs. His second post season he hit .294/.419 and OPS of 1.250. for baseball those are good numbers. Add on in elimination games for the nationals he was hitting .468 and .578 OBP with 2 HRs and 4RBIs. So in the face of being eliminated he played better.

I think Lamar would benefit from better WR talent around him. Zay flowers, likely and Andrews are the only talent i like on that team. I also don’t think Lamar’s career has to be defined by his first 6 playoff games. but the reality is he’s been pretty poor in his performance in a majority of his playoff games. He's had 9 turnovers in 6 playoff games. In their losses he’s had 8. His offense is averaging 16ppg in 6 games. And in losses his offense is averaging 10.5 ppg. Meanwhile ravens defense is giving up 18 ppg. And that’s even that being that high can be somewhat attributed to Lamar cause in the titans 28-12 playoff win in 2019 Lamar’s pick and fumble gave the titans the ball only needing 35 and 21 yards to score tds. 

Really like Latu , impressive 

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

Ramsey played nowhere close to the level with the Rams that he was in JAX.  He's been a boom or bust CB since he left the Jags.

Umm he played for them for 4 years.  He went to Pro Bowl all 4 years and was First Team All Pro for 2 of the years and won a Super Bowl.  I'd be ok with that.

12 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Quez!

It’s gonna be painful if Quez somehow manages to make it back for 2024 

2 hours ago, judunno said:

We're fine at punt returner. We already have one of the best in the league and he's getting better. That's not high on the list of pre-requisites for a WR for this team. You can have a specialist or two on the roster. I rank getting open, catching the ball, and blocking much higher than return ability for this WR group. Further DBs can also PR/KR it's not limited to WR.

Sure it is bc were wasting a roster spot on a unitasker. Covey seems nice and all but his value is minimal

Have only done cursory draft prep, but watching like five reps of Fuaga and I’m ready to draft him at 22. 

2 hours ago, brkmsn said:

When you bring developmental guys on to the team, ideally they can contribute on ST right away. While they are here, they will get work at and try to be developed for a standard position. Last year at this time fans were scoffing at Covey's punt return ability. As this season progressed we saw him get increased snaps at WR in games. He's being developed as a viable WR depth piece if nothing else. We all know that as soon as a player becomes some kind of key starter, fans will all be like, "we need somebody else to return punts before he gets hurt!!!11!"

Covey is fine. We simply need an offense that does something with the 3rd, 4th, and 5th WRs besides blocking. Covey can easily be utilized like Cole Beasley in an offense that utilizes that type of slot receiver. 

Im not convinced he is a functional wr

Carter showing some strength 

1 hour ago, GoEagles614 said:

Yeah we can’t afford Surtain and Burns. Smitty and Dickerson should be extension priorities. 

Dickerson needs to be extended as he has one year left on his contract.  Smith doesn't as he has two years left once his fifth year option is exercised.  I understand signing guys sooner rather than later but it also hamstrings signing FA's as there is only so much money to go around.  I wait one more year on Smith.

29 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Lamar suffers from the fact that in the playoffs good defenses simply aren't going to let you do what you do best, or at least they will slow it down as much as possible.  Every QB at some point has to adjust.  The Chiefs offense got to a point where defenses backed up and said "you're not going to throw over us; we'll make you pick your way down the field 5-10 yards at a time."  Reid and Mahomes have been good enough to counter-adjust.  Burrow is having to make the same adjustments in CIN.  With the Eagles, defenses have adjusted to slowing and stopping the RPO with disguised looks.  Hurts wasn't able to run as efficiently as last season to extend drives.

Jackson has been a much better pro than I thought he would be.  I pictured him as an RG III who would run until he got pulverized, and his career would be similarly short.  The Ravens built a roster and an offensive scheme around his skills, and it has worked very well to this point in his career -- although his injury history does make me wonder about his longevity.  He's got to build on his game to succeed in the playoffs, though.  At present, I don't see any way he can lead the Ravens to a Super Bowl title.  He can be a passenger while the defense wins one -- but he won't lead them there.  

I’d add he needs to take better care of the ball and make better decisions than throwing it into triple coverage. He has 9 turnovers in 6 playoff games. That’s 1.5 turnovers per game. Most of the time you are gonna lose in the playoffs when you are turning it over that much. Also can’t be competing less than 60% of your passes in 4 of 6 playoff games. In the game against KC he had two throws down the field to WIDE open WRs and he sailed the ball. Thats an issue whether it’s hurts, burrow, mahomes, purdy, Stafford, Goff. Lamar has the talent to be good enough. The fact is he has to be better in bigger games against better defenses. He and his offense averaging 16ppg in 6 playoff games isn’t good enough. Him turning it over 9 times in 6 games is a recipe for a loss. And him completing less than 60% of his passes through 6 playoff games isn’t good enough. 

Ok, so who are the third or fourth round receivers to watch that have inside-outside versatility and can run?

Can Pearsall run? I know Roman Wilson can, but is he capable in the slot?

For you draft guys, does he project more to guard than RT? 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Ok, so who are the third or fourth round receivers to watch that have inside-outside versatility and can run?

Can Pearsall run? I know Roman Wilson can, but is he capable in the slot?

Cowing. Arizona kind of moved him around a lot but he might be more of a slot guy in the nfl. But have a feeling he runs a really good 40 and might sneak his way into the second round 

Well he apparently has the change of direction for the slot. 

This would be one of the five reps I’ve seen.