I'm all in for vrabel.

 

F sirianni

7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Whoever wrote that headline should be shown the door.

4 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

I'm all in for vrabel.

 

F sirianni

I'm still not convinced it's all Siri's fault. This whole thing has a micromanagement feel to it with the FO dictating everything from not only personnel and who dresses on Sundays but scheme and philosophy as well. That Desai move had to come from up stairs and that's just a zero EQ move given the time of the season. It would be on Siri if this was some move by him to over commit to give the FO exactly what they wanted so that they would back the F off going forward but doubt that's the case. He will go the way of Doug. I think it's all an over correction from the Chip Kelly experience with the FO being overly control hungry.

8 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Whoever wrote that headline should be shown the door.

Why?

1 minute ago, judunno said:

I'm still not convinced it's all Siri's fault. This whole thing has a micromanagement feel to it with the FO dictating everything from not only personnel and who dresses on Sundays but scheme and philosophy as well. That Desai move had to come from up stairs and that's just a zero EQ move given the time of the season. It would be on Siri if this was some move by him to over commit to give the FO exactly what they wanted so that they would back the F off going forward but doubt that's the case. He will go the way of Doug. I think it's all an over correction from the Chip Kelly experience with the FO being overly control hungry.

I don’t think it is all on Sirianni and I do think Howie has to take some blame. The players do too. Unfortunately a lot of the players are going nowhere and Howie isn’t either so Sirianni is the fall guy.

5 hours ago, austinfan said:

Reality check, if you were Howie, would you have blown this team up after going to the SB?

He didn't have the resources to do more than plug and pray, he had to let CJGJ and Hargrave walk, Bradbury was brought back b/c he was relatively cheap for a veteran CB and was only 30, same with Cox, couldn't afford Edwards, thought Dean could replace him as a second year player, and so on. It almost worked until it imploded, sure 10-1 should have been 8-3 but 1-5 probably should have been 3-3, so still 11-6 which is solid coming off a SB with a short offseason and cap issues. It was the way that they ended the season that leaves such a bad taste.

Sure Desai and Patricia were dealt bad hands, but Desai got them to play at a mediocre level which was fine the first half, then they collapsed as opposing OCs recognized the weak spots. Desai couldn't adjust and Patricia was no better - time to move on. Speed and quickness in the back seven (and some more physical play) is needed.

Johnson was right to move away from the RPO, Hurts is obviously hurt and shouldn't be running like he did the SB season anymore - but that then requires a more sophisticated passing scheme to get receivers open, I think Hurts was the highest rated QB throwing into tight coverage - problem was he was always throwing into tight coverage - how often did you see an Eagles receiver with separation under 3 seconds? Look at all those deep routes, or outlets behind the LOS - where are the routes over the middle, safety valves in motion so they can catch in stride instead of turning to face the QB then having to turn up field from a stationary position, and so on. No motion, no deception, lousy execution of picks, etc.

Siri took over a 4-12 team and got them to 9-=7 without a serious talent infusion, I think he may actually be better in a rebuilding situation than trying to milk a last season out of a bunch of veterans. He's certainly earned the chance to turn this around.

 

 

No offense, they didn’t need to decide to re-sign James Bradberry and/or give Darius slay an extension. James Bradberry‘s career arc told you he’d have a good season followed by a poor season. The Eagles consider themselves an analytic organization but if you look at the analytics of his career, they told you that’s what was going to happen. Plus he was in his 30s now. And the analytics at corner tell you corners over 30 tend to not not stay healthy and fall off a cliff and when it happens it happens rather fast. So you’re Competing against time and injury. Not only that now you decided you were going to give an extension to Darius slay who is also over 30. Sheil Kapadia talked about this all Fing off-season about corners over 30 don’t play all 17 games and they usually fall off a cliff in their 30s and it tends to happen rather quick besides like 1-2 outliers.

so instead of paying to older players. Getting out of their contracts a year too soon than a year too late, they could have extended TJ Edwards over bradberry, who is a young linebacker. He could’ve signed CJGJ a young safety and not had to go trade more draft capital for another 31 year old safety in byard who also had fallen off a cliff.  Both of those guys would’ve been mainstays for multiple seasons because they were young and headed into their primes. The two guys the Eagles and howie elected to keep within the organization were more likely to be exiting their primes and you were tempting fate with their age that their new contracts would be good contracts.

The Eagles went with what they did at safety and linebacker in the offseason. I said this during the off-season. I said it during training camp. I said it during the preseason. And I said right before the season started. Those two spots were not good. They were going to catch up to the Eagles, and it was going to severely hurt them and their defense. And it exactly happened that way. They got what they paid for. Howie made the mistake of deciding to pay two older corners and they got burned: one that didn’t stay healthy and the other one who fell off a cliff. He decided to go with unproven players at safety, guys who weren’t that good elsewhere and a guy who was injury prone for his entire career. He elected to have an unproven linebacker in Dean with ridiculously bad depth around him then tried to fix it with two over the hill signings in training camp. You tend to get what you pay for. They got what they paid for at safety and linebacker because they went into the season with a lot of unproven players, question marks or guys who just weren’t good enough at other stops. Again they got what they paid for. 

9 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I don’t think it is all on Sirianni and I do think Howie has to take some blame. The players do too. Unfortunately a lot of the players are going nowhere and Howie isn’t either so Sirianni is the fall guy.

Albeit this may be true but this doesn't give me confidence that changes will be made that are needed. Regardless of who comes in to replace Siri we can only expect more of the same unless Howie makes an incredible reversal on how they want to proceed. They got away with this philosophy to an extent when having a cake walk of a schedule and a loaded roster that was so talented it could win despite. Going forward that won't be happening.

Good.  Looks like he might wait to see what happens this season with player/personnel decisions.   (Read in between the lines - let’s see what happens with the coaching staff/leadership first)

 

Good for you Kelce. 
 

 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

 

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Good.  Looks like he might wait to see what happens this season with player/personnel decisions.   (Read in between the lines - let’s see what happens with the coaching staff/leadership first)

 

Good for you Kelce. 

The fat knight returns!!!

Kylie Kelce should win MVP…most valuable poon. Her contributions have all but guaranteed Kelce having a lifelong affiliation with the Philadelphia area. Kylie, we salute you. 

Sheil casually mentioning on their latest pod that Howie put Patricia on Sirianni's radar and Patricia had an office right near Howie's that rubbed some people the wrong way.

58 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

Well said. Roseman continues to avoid blame from the media and most fans. I don’t get it. To me, his off-season moves, poor contract management and drafting doomed this season, particularly on defense. 

24 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No offense, they didn’t need to decide to re-sign James Bradberry and/or give Darius slay an extension. James Bradberry‘s career arc told you he’d have a good season followed by a poor season. The Eagles consider themselves an analytic organization but if you look at the analytics of his career, they told you that’s what was going to happen. Plus he was in his 30s now. And the analytics at corner tell you corners over 30 tend to not not stay healthy and fall off a cliff and when it happens it happens rather fast. So you’re Competing against time and injury. Not only that now you decided you were going to give an extension to Darius slay who is also over 30. Sheil Kapadia talked about this all Fing off-season about corners over 30 don’t play all 17 games and they usually fall off a cliff in their 30s and it tends to happen rather quick besides like 1-2 outliers.

so instead of paying to older players. Getting out of their contracts a year too soon than a year too late, they could have extended TJ Edwards over bradberry, who is a young linebacker. He could’ve signed CJGJ a young safety and not had to go trade more draft capital for another 31 year old safety in byard who also had fallen off a cliff.  Both of those guys would’ve been mainstays for multiple seasons because they were young and headed into their primes. The two guys the Eagles and howie elected to keep within the organization were more likely to be exiting their primes and you were tempting fate with their age that their new contracts would be good contracts.

The Eagles went with what they did at safety and linebacker in the offseason. I said this during the off-season. I said it during training camp. I said it during the preseason. And I said right before the season started. Those two spots were not good. They were going to catch up to the Eagles, and it was going to severely hurt them and their defense. And it exactly happened that way. They got what they paid for. Howie made the mistake of deciding to pay two older corners and they got burned: one that didn’t stay healthy and the other one who fell off a cliff. He decided to go with unproven players at safety, guys who weren’t that good elsewhere and a guy who was injury prone for his entire career. He elected to have an unproven linebacker in Dean with ridiculously bad depth around him then tried to fix it with two over the hill signings in training camp. You tend to get what you pay for. They got what they paid for at safety and linebacker because they went into the season with a lot of unproven players, question marks or guys who just weren’t good enough at other stops. Again they got what they paid for. 

It's why I want Howie's feet held to the fire this off-season.  His finger prints are all over the roster/coaching staff and while the coaches should be very much under the spotlight, the FO can't be allowed to slither off into the long grass and let the playing side of things take all the blame. 

Bears fans warned about Morrow and he was worse than they said.  What could an LB coach do with Morrow as a key part of the crew?

Moving on.  When Tracy Rocker arrived as DL coach, I was a bit concerned about his career.  He doesn't stay in a job more than 3 or 4 years on the whole.  And I can see why now; the 3rd year has been dire from his crew.  And he can't complain about lack of talent.

10 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Watch. The. Games.

That takes too long.

10 hours ago, paco said:

Not only that, Lebron has NEVER lost an in season tournament. Michael or Kobe never even won one. 

 

Listening to the Adam schefter interview on 975 the fanatic he made it sound like Nick Sirianni is going to be back. That there’s some thought within the organization that there’s chance Brian Johnson is also back and they chalked up the issues on offense to him learning on the job in his first year as an offensive coordinator. But there’s going to be changes defensively.

8 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

That right there should get that fanbase (hahahaha, they don't have a fanbase) kicked out of the NFL.

5 hours ago, austinfan said:

Reality check, if you were Howie, would you have blown this team up after going to the SB?

Great false dilemma fallacy.  

 

If I was Howie, would I have brought back both Slay and Bradberry?  No.
If I was Howie, would I have let BOTH LBs go?  No.
If I was Howie, would I have let BOTH safeties go?  No.

 

If I was Howie, the back 7 wouldn't have been a bunch of complete strangers and geriatrics.   The offensive issues are schematic more than anything else.   The defensive issues were scheme exacerbated by complete lack of talent on the back end and unfamiliarity.

1 hour ago, Parrot Head said:

Have to imagine we find out Siri's fate today one way or the other.

I expect a wall st style friday afternoon drop

1 hour ago, Parrot Head said:

Have to imagine we find out Siri's fate today one way or the other.

Something might leak after all the exit interviews but probably nothing official until tomorrow (Either way) is my guess. 

1 hour ago, Blazehound said:

Well said. Roseman continues to avoid blame from the media and most fans. I don’t get it. To me, his off-season moves, poor contract management and drafting doomed this season, particularly on defense. 

Howie give Sirianni a top 10ish roster. We had a top 3 roster last year. That's why he's not getting the same amount of blame.

We had 11 wins with awful coaching this year. That's roster-talent. 

This doesn't absolve Howie for some bad decisions (Bradberry resigning, the back 7 in general), but it's not on the GM when players on defense won't tackle and we can't handle a blitz on offense.

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Listening to the Adam schefter interview on 975 the fanatic he made it sound like Nick Sirianni is going to be back. That there’s some thought within the organization that there’s chance Brian Johnson is also back and they chalked up the issues on offense to him learning on the job in his first year as an offensive coordinator. But there’s going to be changes defensively.

Who knows. Maybe we have it all wrong.  (I doubt it) 

There’s too much risk for the organization to bring the entire offensive coaching staff back next season.  As soon as they fail next season (very likely) there will be an absolute fan rebellion and they will be forced to make a mid-season change.   That would be historically worse than making changes now.  They have a "win now” team - I highly doubt they are willing to waste another season to see if Sirianni can regain the team. 

19 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Listening to the Adam schefter interview on 975 the fanatic he made it sound like Nick Sirianni is going to be back. That there’s some thought within the organization that there’s chance Brian Johnson is also back and they chalked up the issues on offense to him learning on the job in his first year as an offensive coordinator. But there’s going to be changes defensively.

I don't think I could even watch the games next season if that came to fruition. Maybe if there was some info that they were hamstrung and now had full creative control of the offense I might feel a bit different about it. They obviously didn't learn a damn thing through the entire season so there's not much hope that the offseason would change anything.

55 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Good.  Looks like he might wait to see what happens this season with player/personnel decisions.   (Read in between the lines - let’s see what happens with the coaching staff/leadership first)

 

Good for you Kelce. 
 

 

I actually want him to retire. His body has been through enough. Quality of life is more important going forward.