1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

 

Who wrote that for gods sake.

Jim Irsay's dead...

 

serious about visiting Itchy and Scratchy land

3 hours ago, bpac55 said:

When's the last time the Eagles blitzed and we all said wow where did that come from or holy cow what a call by the DC! It never happens. Or what about lining up players to use them to an advantage? I look back at BG's sack of Brady in SB52. The NASCAR package that utilized DE lining up on the inside. That was a brilliant play call that gave BG a mismatch.  This entire team, both sides of the ball is based off of the Eagles just hoping their player is better and wins their matchup. It's infuriating. 

A blitz for the Eagles is basically their LB shooting a gap and getting stonewalled.

Yup, on offense and defense coaches are just asking players to beat the guy in front of them with zero regard to creating mismatches or getting them in favorable positions to make plays 

Its lazy and predictable by the coaches.

1 minute ago, judunno said:

I actually want him to retire. His body has been through enough. Quality of life is more important going forward.

I get all that but going out the way he’s going out (with the team hitting rock bottom) - I think he deserves better. 

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Yup, on offense and defense coaches are just asking players to beat the guy in front of them with zero regard to creating mismatches or getting them in favorable positions to make plays 

Its lazy and predictable by the coaches.

It’s basically a high school level offensive approach and has been exposed this season. 

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Who knows. Maybe we have it all wrong.  (I doubt it) 

There’s too much risk for the organization to bring the entire offensive coaching staff back next season.  As soon as they fail next season (very likely) there will be an absolute fan rebellion and they will be forced to make a mid-season change.   That would be historically worse than making changes now.  They have a "win now” team - I highly doubt they are willing to waste another season to see if Sirianni can regain the team. 

The thing that bothered me with the schefter interview about the Johnson part is afterward they discussed maybe Brian Johnson is like McDermott who wasn’t very good his two years here then went to Carolina and became good over the next 6 and eventually got the Buffalo job. To me, Sean McDermott, when he was here did not have the talent that Brian Johnson had at his disposal as a first year coordinator.

If you were going to make that argument with Brian Johnson/McDermott, the guy had a better argument to be compared to mcdermott’s tenure and career path should be Desai. Desai was given a half deck of cards to start the year. They had garbage at linebacker. question marks all over their safety position. And you were relying on 2 30+ corners that didn’t stay healthy and severely declined. I wouldn’t make that case for either but if i were going to it’s more so for Desai than Johnson just based off the talent he was given comparatively to Johnson. Brian Johnson had a tailor-made and should’ve had this offense be way more consistent. And the one thing he had to fix was the blitz pick up and he couldn’t even do that for 18 weeks. 
 

The Kelce clip.

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

Good.  Looks like he might wait to see what happens this season with player/personnel decisions.   (Read in between the lines - let’s see what happens with the coaching staff/leadership first)

Good for you Kelce. 
 

I don't think that's what this means, I think it means that he wants to announce his retirement HIS way, and not just have it be out there without him making the announcement.  

6 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yup, on offense and defense coaches are just asking players to beat the guy in front of them with zero regard to creating mismatches or getting them in favorable positions to make plays 

Its lazy and predictable by the coaches.

Yeah, especially since the Bucs played press so much (which that should've been obvious from the tape) and we never put any of the receivers in motion to get them a free release. Their solution to "motion" was putting Gainwell in motion occasionally which doesn't help your actual receivers at all lol. Also, definitely no bunch formations. We don't want to get too creative. Spread only.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I don't think that's what this means, I think it means that he wants to announce his retirement HIS way, and not just have it be out there without him making the announcement.  

Could be.  Or he might be waiting to see what happens during his exit interview today - see what they intend for next season, etc. 

Would make sense either way, imo. 

39 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Listening to the Adam schefter interview on 975 the fanatic he made it sound like Nick Sirianni is going to be back. That there’s some thought within the organization that there’s chance Brian Johnson is also back and they chalked up the issues on offense to him learning on the job in his first year as an offensive coordinator. But there’s going to be changes defensively.

If the issues are related to 'learning on the job', then the expectation would be that by the 18th game, you would demonstrate something that you've learned during the first 17 games and implement it to be more successful.   On the other hand, if the issues aren't merely that you were in your first year and learning on the job, but merely in your first year and completely overmatched... then you would expect to see zero growth and in fact, see regression as the opposition has had the opportunity to study what you do know how to do and counter it successfully.   

And the latter, rather than the former is exactly what has transpired this season... without question.  Move on.

14 minutes ago, bitbased said:

I don't think I could even watch the games next season if that came to fruition. Maybe if there was some info that they were hamstrung and now had full creative control of the offense I might feel a bit different about it. They obviously didn't learn a damn thing through the entire season so there's not much hope that the offseason would change anything.

It's going to be a damn disaster like we have never seen. Fans at the Linc will be going ape****. This just can't happen and would show Jeffery's true colors to the world. 

Where are the people standing outside with signs when we need them? We need a few thousand. That would get some national attention. 

5 minutes ago, RLC said:

The Kelce clip.

Seems like he’s addressing the players - saying he believes in them, etc.  

2 minutes ago, bitbased said:

Yeah, especially since the Bucs played press so much (which that should've been obvious from the tape) and we never put any of the receivers in motion to get them a free release. Their solution to "motion" was putting Gainwell in motion occasionally which doesn't help your actual receivers at all lol. Also, definitely no bunch formations. We don't want to get too creative. Spread only.

Yup, Bowels was laughing the whole time because it was like playing a highschool offense.

Can you imagine how much  better smith would be if the coaches actually schemed him open instead of just telling him to go out and beat his guy, which he regularly does.

16 minutes ago, RLC said:

Howie give Sirianni a top 10ish roster. We had a top 3 roster last year. That's why he's not getting the same amount of blame.

We had 11 wins with awful coaching this year. That's roster-talent. 

This doesn't absolve Howie for some bad decisions (Bradberry resigning, the back 7 in general), but it's not on the GM when players on defense won't tackle and we can't handle a blitz on offense.

It is partly on the GM.   The bad tackling was by and large the back 7.  

42 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Listening to the Adam schefter interview on 975 the fanatic he made it sound like Nick Sirianni is going to be back. That there’s some thought within the organization that there’s chance Brian Johnson is also back and they chalked up the issues on offense to him learning on the job in his first year as an offensive coordinator. But there’s going to be changes defensively.

Makes sense when deciding whether to switch coaches, give the guys who made a crap sandwich out of a great roster another chance and fire the guy who attempted to make a decent product out of a crap sandwich of a roster.

KC

Texans 

bucs

Pack 

13 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I get all that but going out the way he’s going out (with the team hitting rock bottom) - I think he deserves better. 

He deserves to be able to get up from the floor without assistance when playing with his kids. Would suck more to go out with a season ending injury that requires more pain and rehab. Ultimately his decision though. Hope he makes the right one.

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

If the issues are related to 'learning on the job', then the expectation would be that by the 18th game, you would demonstrate something that you've learned during the first 17 games and implement it to be more successful.   On the other hand, if the issues aren't merely that you were in your first year and learning on the job, but merely in your first year and completely overmatched... then you would expect to see zero growth and in fact, see regression as the opposition has had the opportunity to study what you do know how to do and counter it successfully.   

And the latter, rather than the former is exactly what has transpired this season... without question.  Move on.

That's the most baffling aspect for me, what week was it that Sirianni said they don't have hot routes for countering blitzes and then Martindale and Bowles the last 2 weeks blitzed every other down and we were absolutely screwed. It shouldn't need an entire off season to practice a simple drag, cross or slant for when they show blitz. Hell just not calling verticals on 3rd and two when they have five lined up at scrimmage would be a start.

8 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yup, Bowels was laughing the whole time because it was like playing a highschool offense.

Can you imagine how much  better smith would be if the coaches actually schemed him open instead of just telling him to go out and beat his guy, which he regularly does.

Had to be some extra giggling in there for get back for the way the Eagles organization treated him here.

 

 

6 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

That's the most baffling aspect for me, what week was it that Sirianni said they don't have hot routes for countering blitzes and then Martindale and Bowles the last 2 weeks blitzed every other down and we were absolutely screwed. It shouldn't need an entire off season to practice a simple drag, cross or slant for when they show blitz. Hell just not calling verticals on 3rd and two when they have five lined up at scrimmage would be a start.

Exactly.  Our receivers aren’t DeSean Jackson fast that will beat DB’s on vertical routes.  They are great route runners with great hands - meaning you call slants that require good route running (which we do best) to beat their man - which work the vast majority of the time they call slants/hooks/posts etc.  

The last thing that should be called on blitzes are vertical routes that take time (if they even beat their man) to get open.  It’s ridiculous to even think that’s what their gameplanning has been to beat blitzes. 

18 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The thing that bothered me with the schefter interview about the Johnson part is afterward they discussed maybe Brian Johnson is like McDermott who wasn’t very good his two years here then went to Carolina and became good over the next 6 and eventually got the Buffalo job. To me, Sean McDermott, when he was here did not have the talent that Brian Johnson had at his disposal as a first year coordinator.

If you were going to make that argument with Brian Johnson/McDermott, the guy had a better argument to be compared to mcdermott’s tenure and career path should be Desai. Desai was given a half deck of cards to start the year. They had garbage at linebacker. question marks all over their safety position. And you were relying on 2 30+ corners that didn’t stay healthy and severely declined. I wouldn’t make that case for either but if i were going to it’s more so for Desai than Johnson just based off the talent he was given comparatively to Johnson. Brian Johnson had a tailor-made and should’ve had this offense be way more consistent. And the one thing he had to fix was the blitz pick up and he couldn’t even do that for 18 weeks. 
 

Not only that... McDermott went and worked under Ron Rivera and learned how to be a DC.   Johnson would be here working under Sirianni... a guy who doesn't seem to be capable as an OC himself.   Who would Johnson be learning from?  

3 minutes ago, NOTW said:

 

 

Ding. Ding. 

Hurts AND the schemes/coaching were the issue. It wasn’t one of them, it was both. 

3 minutes ago, NOTW said:

 

 

This.  Spot on.