38 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

Feels like they want some sort of stability at the top while still being able to swap out the entire staff. I think they like the culture he created. From hearing the players it didn't sound like he had lost the locker room at all. That's what would have got him canned.

Talk is cheap.  Of course he lost the locker room.  Did you miss the last 7 weeks of the season?

It's interesting that Baltimore did not promote Wilson. Wonder if that's a timing thing or they felt that had a better internal candidate

The only reason Siri remains here is to be a puppet for Lowie to run the team from behind the scenes.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Me when learning that Aaron moorehead is still here 

I have no idea if he's a good coach or not.

10 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Talk is cheap.  Of course he lost the locker room.  Did you miss the last 7 weeks of the season?

Sure did and it really made me question siriannis leadership for the first time seeing that, but there's no way they kept him if they actually thought he lost the locker room moving forward. 

13 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

It's interesting that Baltimore did not promote Wilson. Wonder if that's a timing thing or they felt that had a better internal candidate

Timing probably. Wilson has been interviewing for a few weeks now while it wasn’t clear what would happen with MacDonald. Also he was there only one year, they might have someone else ahead of him in the internal promotion pipeline. It’s probably a bit of both. 

Losing the locker room is overrated to begin with. Players having your back doesn’t matter if you can’t coach or game plan. You can believe in a coach all you want, but if his plan sucks you’re still going to lose. 

53 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Weirdest thing about Moorehead is he has never been anyone’s guy besides Doug, Press or maybe Howie. But he’s still here and even survived two coaching staff overhauls which is bizarre as is for a position coach. He’s had the job for 4 years, shown next to nothing, hasn’t advanced at all in his career but somehow sticks around. 

The weirdest thing about Moorehead are his eyes. Things look like they're about to just fall out at any moment. 

2 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

Sure did and it really made me question siriannis leadership for the first time seeing that, but there's no way they kept him if they actually thought he lost the locker room moving forward. 

Sometimes things just spiral. We've seen it with other coaches.  It happened with Reid too. Question is can he get it back on this team.  I'm not sure but I don't think the answer is definitely no either.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

Losing the locker room is overrated to begin with. Players having your back doesn’t matter if you can’t coach or game plan. You can believe in a coach all you want, but if his plan sucks you’re still going to lose. 

Yep same with 'vibes' and 'chemistry'.  With the Eagles the game planning and play calling was so bad on both sides of the ball that I think the coordinator switches have a real chance to make a huge difference

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

It’s just crazy how all of Siri’s assistants are being canned. Literally all of them but he is safe. Maybe this is a common occurrence in the NFL but I couldn’t imagine a sales manager who leads a sales staff of say 5-10 people (in any industry) is allowed to keep his job while his entire staff under him gets canned by upper management. 

I get what you are trying to say but it isn't quite on the mark.

There is a clear demarcation between the assistants being let go or not. Siri's own guys aren't the ones being canned and will stay. Its the more organisational hires that Nick has had on his staff over the last year or two or three that are gone. His #1 guy is Kevin Patullo who followed him from Indy. Marcus Brady is a Siri guy and will likely be here in the absence of getting an OC role somewhere else. Jason Micheal is still here (but probably the one Siri guy I could see being let go) . The other original Siri guys on the staff were Steichen and Gannon who have left. Letting the non Siri guys go creates room for Moore to bring in some of his people and help him implement his ideas.

Stoutland is also an organisational guy who is staying. Moorehead I think probably goes but he is an organisational guy that Siri kept on. Alex Tanney was organisational guy let go.

On the D side it was a bit of mash-up. Nick Rails was clearly a Gannon guy and followed him to Arizona. There is no Siri connection to Rocker or Eliot or DK McDonald (or Denard Wilson who was previously on the staff) - so it makes sense to let them all go and let Fangio who has multiple connections through the league completely rebuild the entire staff.  

A lot of times, positional coaches are valued not for their development (these players have their own professional trainers and coaches they work with in the offseason to develop releases, footwork, etc) it’s about what they bring to weekly game plans. I have no idea what Moorehead contributes there, but he must be good at it. 

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Sometimes things just spiral. We've seen it with other coaches.  It happened with Reid too. Question is can he get it back on this team.  I'm not sure but I don't think the answer is definitely no either.

Yeah and if he fails he's gone. I also wonder if hiring Moore as OC is the type of offense that Lurie wants for the team and is a way to test Jalen to see if he can handle it. Sink or swim

26 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

It's interesting that Baltimore did not promote Wilson. Wonder if that's a timing thing or they felt that had a better internal candidate

Probably wasn’t their top guy for the job, so he couldn’t afford to wait it out. I’m glad he didn’t end up in NY because this place would not have let it go if he succeeded there. 

 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

A lot of times, positional coaches are valued not for their development (these players have their own professional trainers and coaches they work with in the offseason to develop releases, footwork, etc) it’s about what they bring to weekly game plans. I have no idea what Moorehead contributes there, but he must be good at it. 

It did not appear that anyone on the O staff was good at it last year

26 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

It's interesting that Baltimore did not promote Wilson. Wonder if that's a timing thing or they felt that had a better internal candidate

Anthony Weaver is probably #1 but he is also HC candidate at WAS. They also have Zachary Orr who is due a promotion.

That staff was loaded with top level coaches at all three levels.

4 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

Yeah and if he fails he's gone. I also wonder if hiring Moore as OC is the type of offense that Lurie wants for the team and is a way to test Jalen to see if he can handle it. Sink or swim

I definitely think there’s a lot to be learned with Moore as OC that could inform possible changes next offseason

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

A lot of times, positional coaches are valued not for their development (these players have their own professional trainers and coaches they work with in the offseason to develop releases, footwork, etc) it’s about what they bring to weekly game plans. I have no idea what Moorehead contributes there, but he must be good at it. 

He’s probably in charge of one yard short and go for it situations 

5 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

It did not appear that anyone on the O staff was good at it last year

Maybe, but it’s hard to say from our vantage point. It’s worth noting that Moorehead is still employed while the OC is not and Sirianni has been stripped of control of the offense. 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He’s probably in charge of one yard short and go for it situations 

He was in charge of all non-tush push plays on third and 1.

I’m pretty sure we failed in every one of those (no one double check that). 

 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Kelce/Jurgens — Part 2 😂

Was reading an analytics article and Twitter thread and in 2022, Sirianni led the NFL (again, according to analytics) in correct decision making with going for it on fourth down, going for 2 and timeouts usage in each half. I didn’t see where he ranked in 2023, so maybe that info wasn’t out yet. In 2023, he led the NFL with 4th down decision making based on a different model. 

I tried to find the article and the separate tweet but couldn’t, and I can’t remember who did either study. 

Anyway, it was something that caught my eye as he transitions to a CEO type head coach. 

10 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Was reading an analytics article and Twitter thread and in 2022, Sirianni led the NFL (again, according to analytics) in correct decision making with going for it on fourth down, going for 2 and timeouts usage in each half. I didn’t see where he ranked in 2023, so maybe that info wasn’t out yet. In 2023, he led the NFL with 4th down decision making based on a different model. 

I tried to find the article and the separate tweet but couldn’t, and I can’t remember who did either study. 

Anyway, it was something that caught my eye as he transitions to a CEO type head coach. 

I saw a quote from New Heights that Kelce said Sirriani was really good about holding players accountable too and that’s not the first time I heard that. Encourages me because to my eyes the biggest issues by far were game planning and play calling on both sides of the ball so in theory if coordinators address those issues then the other facets like going for it and accountability etc are solid. We’ll see.