Washington being cheap? You love to see it.

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

Washington being cheap? You love to see it.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. 

Take it FWIW, but Mosher said initially Kingsbury was the Eagles top choice for OC, but he wanted too much autonomy. Which I don't really get because they already stripped Sirianni of power to give their new OC more autonomy to begin with.

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Geoff Mosher: "As we were told, Kliff Kingsbury was the leading candidate at first when they were looking for someone to replace Brian Johnson. What we were told is that they had a second conversation with Kingsbury where you talk more and discuss the framework and somewhere along the line, the Eagles liked his concepts and what he could do offensively, but there was a certain level of autonomy they were not willing to go that far…in the end they felt that Kellen Moore was going to come in also very good at what they look for offensively but just fit in better with the culture that they are trying to establish.”

Caplan: "One coaching source who worked with Moore in the past said he is one of the few attack offensive playcallers. Usually, you hear that about defensive coordinators. He is relentless on it. He is walking into great personnel; this is a pretty good situation for him.”

 

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Immediately skeptical of any ranking that puts Brian Johnson ahead of Slowik and on par with Monken.

Well, he basically is grading on a curve, if you will. He's downgrading play callers that had exceptional QB play and such. 

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

Washington being cheap? You love to see it.

How disappointing if you're a Washington fan. New ownership in house, a fresh start and that's how they start off? At least Snyder would've ponied up the cash, geez.

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Take it FWIW, but Mosher said initially Kingsbury was the Eagles top choice for OC, but he wanted too much autonomy. Which I don't really get because they already stripped Sirianni of power to give their new OC more autonomy to begin with.

 

So he wasn't the top choice.

A lot of leading candidates fail the interview process.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Take it FWIW, but Mosher said initially Kingsbury was the Eagles top choice for OC, but he wanted too much autonomy. Which I don't really get because they already stripped Sirianni of power to give their new OC more autonomy to begin with.

 

Which tells me, Lowie and the analytical dept still want to stick their beaks into crap. I hope Moore doesn't ignore the run game because of these guys. 

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Take it FWIW, but Mosher said initially Kingsbury was the Eagles top choice for OC, but he wanted too much autonomy. Which I don't really get because they already stripped Sirianni of power to give their new OC more autonomy to begin with.

 

I'm happy with their choice.  I think it will be Moore's offense but he'll work with Sirriani in a collaborative way a bit which is fine so long as Moore is play caller and it's his offense. Kingsbury seems like a guy who keeps failing forward and asking for more power along the way.

13 minutes ago, RLC said:

Washington being cheap? You love to see it.

New owner... same franchise.

5 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

How disappointing if you're a Washington fan. New ownership in house, a fresh start and that's how they start off? At least Snyder would've ponied up the cash, geez.

Can't give $15M per year to a guy who's never been a head coach before.  As far as McDonald goes, you'd hope he would have told WAS he had an offer from SEA for more money and, at that point, the decision is Peters' to make.  I think Quinn is a good (not great) head coach and the right choice for them at this time.

If Kingsbury was super high on Kyler Murray, I would think Jayden Daniels should be their draft pick at #2.    

 

10 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

How disappointing if you're a Washington fan. New ownership in house, a fresh start and that's how they start off? At least Snyder would've ponied up the cash, geez.

Josh Harris traded away Thybulle to save money under the luxury tax and wasn't going to pay employees during COVID until Embiid said he was going to pay them. It's not new with him

7 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Can't give $15M per year to a guy who's never been a head coach before.  As far as McDonald goes, you'd hope he would have told WAS he had an offer from SEA for more money and, at that point, the decision is Peters' to make.  I think Quinn is a good (not great) head coach and the right choice for them at this time.

If Kingsbury was super high on Kyler Murray, I would think Jayden Daniels should be their draft pick at #2.    

Seattle did it no problem 

26 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Take it FWIW, but Mosher said initially Kingsbury was the Eagles top choice for OC, but he wanted too much autonomy. Which I don't really get because they already stripped Sirianni of power to give their new OC more autonomy to begin with.

 

Probably with the assistant coaching staff

15 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Lurie is going to be hard for him if he fires Sirianni. Lurie fawns over mad scientist coaches.

9 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Seattle did it no problem 

Doesn't mean it's the right thing to do, nor that WAS had to do it.  SEA apparently made McDonald the highest-paid first time head coach in NFL history, and it's their prerogative to do that if they choose.  WAS also had two candidates -- McDonald and Quinn -- and chose a more experienced head coach. 

We'll see how McDonald fares in Seattle.

40 minutes ago, RLC said:

Washington being cheap? You love to see it.

It’s the perfect storm of a hire because it makes Dallas worse on defense and I don’t think he’s going to work out in Washington. Potentially kill two birds with one stone. 

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Doesn't mean it's the right thing to do, nor that WAS had to do it.  SEA apparently made McDonald the highest-paid first time head coach in NFL history, and it's their prerogative to do that if they choose.  WAS also had two candidates -- McDonald and Quinn -- and chose a more experienced head coach. 

We'll see how McDonald fares in Seattle.

I'm just saying, you said a team can't pay that meanwhile Seattle just did. If you want the hot younger sought after coordinator then this is what you have do it seems. I trust Seattle much more than Washington to make quality decisions. Washington's tandem is "ok". Solid but nothing great. No one here wanted Kliff either. 

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

The issue is that Purdy is basically a very slight improvement, stats wise, over what Jimmy G put up once he got CMC. And we all say what happened to Jimmy G in Las Vegas. Fair or not, that's going to be the knock on Purdy unless he wins it all.

Regardless there's no 'replacement level' for QBs. They're not plug and play like RBs. The QB position is a whole different animal and good ones don't just grow on trees. There's a reason why teams continuously draft them high in the first round year after year in an attempt to find one that can play at a high level for 10+ years.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

@HazletonEagle

 

Both looked slow as hell in the Senior Bowl.

22 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

It’s the perfect storm of a hire because it makes Dallas worse on defense and I don’t think he’s going to work out in Washington. Potentially kill two birds with one stone. 

.  The only bird in the division is the Eagles.  

16 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

I'm just saying, you said a team can't pay that meanwhile Seattle just did. If you want the hot younger sought after coordinator then this is what you have do it seems. I trust Seattle much more than Washington to make quality decisions. Washington's tandem is "ok". Solid but nothing great. No one here wanted Kliff either. 

I said you can't pay $15M; that was Ben Johnson's price.  There hasn't been a number reported yet on what they're paying McDonald.

Couple of trade downs that worked out nicely.

 

16 minutes ago, judunno said:

Both looked slow as hell in the Senior Bowl.

These guys are day 3 type backs. Howie better have a better game plan than that. Really really nervous about this offseason to be honest. 

Well, we wanted the defense fixed...never gonna happen, but I like it