38 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

I respect Asante Samuel - one of the best ball hawk corners we’ve ever had.

That said, guy wasn’t on the team until 2008.  By then McNabb was past his prime years and yeah, I can easily believe he was set in his ways by then.  
 

From the early 2000’s and up to the 2004 Super Bowl season, McNabb was easily the reason the Eagles were as successful as they were. I can’t think of an Eagles QB that has accomplished more with the receivers he had.  
 

All due respect to Jalen Hurts (he’s my guy) - Had McNabb had 3 receivers like Brown, Smith and Goedert, everyone in Philadelphia would be singing a different tune when it comes to McNabb’s career.  
 

That’s all. 

2 hours ago, wussbasket said:

If any of you want to know why they are expanding the game, I present the only piece of evidence you need.

The NFL has been growing at a faster rate the last few years, minus the covid year, and its been due to their push internationally.

Nah just demographics domestically

1 hour ago, Original Sin said:

Huge media news: ESPN, Fox, and Warner Bros are planning to launch a joint sports streaming service later this year.

The move will place content from ESPN, TNT, and Fox Sports on a new standalone app and will have significant ramifications for the future of TV sports.

The platform does not yet have a name or a price.

Consolidation makes sense - I’m not sure how all these streaming services survive.

2 hours ago, wussbasket said:

If any of you want to know why they are expanding the game, I present the only piece of evidence you need.

The NFL has been growing at a faster rate the last few years, minus the covid year, and its been due to their push internationally.

Was there a question?  

6 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I respect Asante Samuel - one of the best ball hawk corners we’ve ever had.

That said, guy wasn’t on the team until 2008.  By then McNabb was past his prime years and yeah, I can easily believe he was set in his ways by then.  
 

From the early 2000’s and up to the 2004 Super Bowl season, McNabb was easily the reason the Eagles were as successful as they were. I can’t think of an Eagles QB that has accomplished more with the receivers he had.  
 

All due respect to Jalen Hurts (he’s my guy) - Had McNabb had 3 receivers like Brown, Smith and Goedert, everyone in Philadelphia would be singing a different tune when it comes to McNabb’s career.  
 

That’s all. 

 

I wish Jalen had the defenses that McNabb had.  McNabb was a choke artist and a worm burner.  

45 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

Katt Williams got everyone itching to talk mad ish about their contemporaries  

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Tend to agree with this.

 

They have made it such big business they have priced out the fans.   They are so busy squeezing the golden goose, they don't care about what made it golden in the first place.

5 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

I wish Jalen had the defenses that McNabb had.  McNabb was a choke artist and a worm burner.  

It is a different era, that’s for sure.  And Hurts doesn’t have the defenses McNabb had.  Maybe the talent on defense to an extent but the defensive coordinators Hurts has had are nowhere near Jim Johnson - not even in the same stratosphere. 
 

That said, anyone who remembers McNabb for the one or so "worm burners” he would throw ever so often is a fraud.   McNabb had a cannon arm.
 

 Again, all due respect to Hurts - McNabb could have a broken arm and still have more power on his throws than Hurts.   So be careful when judging McNabb in terms of throwing capacity - especially when you’re comparing him to Hurts.  There is no comparison tbh. 

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Katt Williams got everyone itching to talk mad ish about their contemporaries  

Question that remains... did McNabb have a drinking problem during the Super Bowl run?  And what happened in the huddle when he threw up?  And why?  

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Question that remains... did McNabb have a drinking problem during the Super Bowl run?  And what happened in the huddle when he threw up?  And why?  

Meh.  I think that entire situation was blown up by TO.  
 

And tbh if McNabb was truly that hung over and still managed to play as well as he did - come within 3 points of beating Brady and Belichick in their prime - what does that say about McNabb? 

Devon Allen apparently tore his ACL at some point this season, and it’s his third time. He wants to run track this summer and still play football. 

Just now, Ace Nova said:

Meh.  I think that entire situation was blown up by TO.  
 

And tbh if McNabb was truly that hung over and still managed to play as well as he did - come within 3 points of beating Brady and Belichick in their prime - what does that say about McNabb? 

Well, if that's the question you want to ask... IF... (and I'm not saying he necessarily was) IF he was hung over, the answer is that he could have played better... and better might have been good enough.

It wasn't just TO.  2 OL confirmed it, as did Freddie Mitchell, iirc.  

But IF he was hungover... in the Super Bowl... what does THAT say about McNabb?

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Question that remains... did McNabb have a drinking problem during the Super Bowl run?  And what happened in the huddle when he threw up?  And why?  

You honestly think McNabb threw up in the most watched televsion event at the time and not a single camera caught it? The same event where multiple players were also mic'd up and nothing about it was said by any of those players in real time either? 

Now do I think he was a bit out of shape, exhausted by the time the 4th qtr rolled around, and couldn't call the plays without gasping? Yeah, that was one of his lineman's account (Runyan I think) and I tend to trust his word over that of TO's for obvious reasons.

But actual vomit or even just dry heaving? Come on. All the broadcast cameras, countless photographers, the NFL Films crew, etc, and not a single piece of evidence showing him throwing up or heaving. So on balance, if he did throw up, it must have been in the locker room or somewhere else, but it definitely wasn't on the field.

As for his proclivity for drinking and partying, yes those are well documented, and his post-career issues with the habit certainly cement that image of someone struggling to use alcohol responsibly. But if you're asking me if I think he was hungover in the Super Bowl to the point where he threw up on the field, my answer is no, I don't think he was.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Well, if that's the question you want to ask... IF... (and I'm not saying he necessarily was) IF he was hung over, the answer is that he could have played better... and better might have been good enough.

It wasn't just TO.  2 OL confirmed it, as did Freddie Mitchell, iirc.  

But IF he was hungover... in the Super Bowl... what does THAT say about McNabb?

You sure about that? I think the OL said he was tired, but not that he threw up. The accusations of him vomiting came from TO and maybe Freddie too (not that I take what he has to say seriously either.)

17 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Interesting that we haven’t hired a LB coach yet. Maybe we’re holding out on Staley to decide. Barry and Caldwell are good fall back options. 

I'd laugh if it is Mike Vrabel 🤣 

Talk about falling hard

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Well, if that's the question you want to ask... IF... (and I'm not saying he necessarily was) IF he was hung over, the answer is that he could have played better... and better might have been good enough.

It wasn't just TO.  2 OL confirmed it, as did Freddie Mitchell, iirc.  

But IF he was hungover... in the Super Bowl... what does THAT say about McNabb?

Guy was nervous the night before the biggest game of his life?  Yep, he’s human.

 

That said, I highly doubt he was that "hungover”. - more like he’s on the biggest stage in the world, everyone doubting him, Andy Reid (all the naysayers saying they could never make it past the championship game, etc).  Plus a wired TO in his ear (I love TO but the guy can get in people’s ears).

 

Could have very well been the moment. 

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Devon Allen apparently tore his ACL at some point this season, and it’s his third time. He wants to run track this summer and still play football. 

Poor guy wants it all.  His body can't do it, it seems.  

28 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Consolidation makes sense - I’m not sure how all these streaming services survive.

But this adds yet another streaming service smh. I cut the cord years ago but now it's getting as expensive as cable.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

You sure about that? I think the OL said he was tired, but not that he threw up. The accusations of him vomiting came from TO and maybe Freddie too (not that I take what he has to say seriously either.)

No, I am not.  Which is why I added, IIRC.  It was a long time ago... 20 years nearly.  My memory is weakening as well.  

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Poor guy wants it all.  His body can't do it, it seems.  

Ya... his football career should be done. Stick with track

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Tend to agree with this.

 

 

vikas/

Have you tried being less poor?

/vikas 

IIRC, there was a play early on where McNabb got walloped and didn't buckle his chin strap on the next snap. 

27 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

It is a different era, that’s for sure.  And Hurts doesn’t have the defenses McNabb had.  Maybe the talent on defense to an extent but the defensive coordinators Hurts has had are nowhere near Jim Johnson - not even in the same stratosphere. 
 

That said, anyone who remembers McNabb for the one or so "worm burners” he would throw ever so often is a fraud.   McNabb had a cannon arm.
 

 Again, all due respect to Hurts - McNabb could have a broken arm and still have more power on his throws than Hurts.   So be careful when judging McNabb in terms of throwing capacity - especially when you’re comparing him to Hurts.  There is no comparison tbh. 

 

I don't think you understand the worm burners.  There is no doubt McNabb had a cannon arm.  Problem is he tried to use it on nearly every pass which often resulted in him gunning passes into the ground at WRs feet.  

I wasn't comparing him to Hurts.  I wasn't talking about Hurts at all  You're the one who randomly compared him to Hurts! 

 

Fact is about McNabb is he always came up small the deeper into the playoffs it got.  If McNabb just once in the NFC Title Games they lost or the Super Bowl against the Patriots was able to play a great game up to the level that Jalen did in the Super Bowl last year then McNabb would have won a Super Bowl in his career.  But he just wasn't that guy and that is on McNabb himself above all else.  

 

Hey everyone, on Sunday for the game, we're going to move the ATNFL Super Bowl game day thread over here to TATE during the game so that everyone will use it to talk about the game rather than filling up the Blog thread and slowing it down.

So on Sunday, everyone please use that thread for the Super Bowl Game discussions. 

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Tend to agree with this.

 

Well every other sport has potentially 7 games to determine their championship, not a single game win or lose championship. The environment of the Super Bowl is unmatched. The half time show, the media lead up to it, the glitz and glamor, etc. shoot the NFL’s commercials during the Super Bowl get more attention than the NHL championships lol. Let’s not fool ourselves here. There are expensive tickets because of is environment and spectacle in nature.