6 minutes ago, kiwieagle said:

From being a** for the last 5 years. Not dis-similar to Geno last year

To me the comeback player actually makes most sense to give it someone who has a career resurgence (rather than a top player who comes back from an injury to still be a top player). To each, their own

He sat on the sofa for 3/4 of a season, had a nice 5 game stretch, and then went back to complete ass in the playoffs. 

At least when Geno won it he was a week 1 starter who played at a high level all year. Mayfield was more deserving of it this year  if that’s what we’re basing it off of.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Should never say that, even if you think it’s true.  Lane should know better

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Maybe teams figured out what you were running? The Fing fans knew! Idk why a player would ever openly admit that 

7 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Instead they give him to the Celtics for nothing. He should be fired for that alone. 

I feel like he was trying to totally clearing the decks for next year and/or recoup some of the 4 2nd rounds given up in the Heild / House trades..

But it was dumb. There isn't any major prize in the buyout market - could have just held onto House to save the pick, or equally live with the consequences of being down 3 picks but more cap space for the buyout.

And I don't agree with giving away a talented (but currently flawed in one area) but has popped in some games and may turn into an everyday contributor when you lack depth to get an extra ~4m of cap space next year. Is ~$56 vs ~60m really going to make that big of a difference to the one or two guy they want to sign this off-season? They'll still need to fill out the bench with some rotation players - they cant all be vet min guys 

19 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He sat on the sofa for 3/4 of a season, had a nice 5 game stretch, and then went back to complete ass in the playoffs. 

At least when Geno won it he was a week 1 starter who played at a high level all year. Mayfield was more deserving of it this year  if that’s what we’re basing it off of.

And that is something we agree on, Mayfield was my pick for it. I get the sentimental reasons for giving it to Hamlin but Mayfield deserved it in my view.

9 hours ago, kiwieagle said:

I feel like he was trying to totally clearing the decks for next year and/or recoup some of the 4 2nd rounds given up in the Heild / House trades..

But it was dumb. There isn't any major prize in the buyout market - could have just held onto House to save the pick, or equally live with the consequences of being down 3 picks but more cap space for the buyout.

And I don't agree with giving away a talented (but currently flawed in one area) but has popped in some games and may turn into an everyday contributor when you lack depth to get an extra ~4m of cap space next year. Is ~$56 vs ~60m really going to make that big of a difference to the one or two guy they want to sign this off-season? They'll still need to fill out the bench with some rotation players - they cant all be vet min guys 

We had a chance to get better yesterday but got worse instead. 

We have a chance to recover and stay just about even if we get the right buyout guys but they never choose Philly and Morey is going to want Lowry because Morey is a moron.

We have cap space for a summer with no free agents.  And we cant trade for a star because we have limited 1sts to use and literally no players left on the books to send either. 

Morey has no actual plan. 

The Knicks possibly became the best team in the east and Morey could have had that deal in addition to Hield but refused to move Harris to get it done. 

He instead chose to give talent to other eastern contenders,  and trade away "immaculate vibes" for 2nd round picks.  It was reported that he was trying to acquire more 1st round pick swaps. Of course he failed to get those as well. 

He tried like hell to get Drummond but had no pivot when that couldn't get done.  

The Hield trade was a great move to start the day but at this point it makes no sense.  Big fail of a day for our fraud GM.

5 hours ago, kiwieagle said:

And that is something we agree on, Mayfield was my pick for it. I get the sentimental reasons for giving it to Hamlin but Mayfield deserved it in my view.

A ***** like him over Hamlin? No way

what did baker come back from ? His own lazyness and stupidity?

9 hours ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

"White privilege” gets thrown around a lot nowadays, but if people got as upset about wealth/status privilege maybe some progress would be made. 
 

…. ducks and hides. 

That the whole point of making money…

security, optionality, resources

9 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

 

18 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

 

NFL HOF has turned into a joke. No idea who Grandishar and Mcmichael are, but the only HOF on that list is Peppers. And where is Gates?

Just now, Blazehound said:

NFL HOF has turned into a joke. No idea who Grandishar and Mcmichael are, but the only HOF on that list is Peppers.

Willis was named first team All-Pro 5 times in 8 years.   Named second team All-Pro 1x.   Pro Bowlers 7 out of 8 seasons.     The only knock on him is longevity... but if Terrell Davis and Gale Sayers can get in with fewer years, Willis' 8 years qualifies.

 

I agree, the others are rather disappointing.     If you don't know Steve McMichael though... you must be very young.   He was the stud DT on Buddy's defense that led the 1985 Bears to the Super Bowl.   Gradishar was an ILB for the Orange Crush defense of the 1970s/1980s. 

Devin Hester a HoFer? Antonio Gates made far more impact to the NFL as a UDFA than Devin Hester ever did; Hester was good, Gates helped to redefine the TE position.

9 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

NFL HOF has turned into a joke. No idea who Grandishar and Mcmichael are, but the only HOF on that list is Peppers. And where is Gates?

Not saying Patrick Willis didn't deserve it and I know the HOF isn't purely based on stats but, Patrick Willis vs. Seth Joyner. You can make the argument that Willis played 5 less seasons but you can then say well, Seth Joyner has a Super Bowl ring. Willis was a 7x Pro Bowler 5X All-Pro and DROY compared to Seth Joyner's 3x Pro Bow, 2nd team All-Pro twice, runner up for DPOY and finished in the top 15 DPOY the following year. Seth Joyner was playing his best football at the same time and the same position as Lawrence Taylor so to get those accolades in the early 90s speaks volumes IMO.

Seth Joyner is a HOF player. Don't get me started on Eric Allen still not getting in. 

 

8 hours ago, GoEagles614 said:

So they got figured out and made no adjustments week after week. Great

Siri did it :)

18 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Not saying Patrick Willis didn't deserve it and I know the HOF isn't purely based on stats but, Patrick Willis vs. Seth Joyner. You can make the argument that Willis played 5 less seasons but you can then say well, Seth Joyner has a Super Bowl ring. Willis was a 7x Pro Bowler 5X All-Pro and DROY compared to Seth Joyner's 3x Pro Bow, 2nd team All-Pro twice, runner up for DPOY and finished in the top 15 DPOY the following year. Seth Joyner was playing his best football at the same time and the same position as Lawrence Taylor so to get those accolades in the early 90s speaks volumes IMO.

Seth Joyner is a HOF player. Don't get me started on Eric Allen still not getting in. 

 

Frank finally posted something that would made sense but left out the 5 year difference smh. This guy.

9 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Also don’t understand what the hell Flacco came back from 

They gave it to Flacco instead of a guy who literally came back from death on the field? Yikes

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

That the whole point of making money…

security, optionality, resources

Are you honestly implying that it's okay to get away with domestic assault as long as you have the resources?  

17 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Classic butterface

7 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Should never say that, even if you think it’s true.  Lane should know better

Why? 

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

They gave it to Flacco instead of a guy who literally came back from death on the field? Yikes

It's based on degree of difficulty.  Flacco did it as a guy who played QB for the Jets.  

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Are you honestly implying that it's okay to get away with domestic assault as long as you have the resources?  

Not sure that it was an implication.  It appeared to be an outright declaration.

 

Folian should be pushed as an adjective, like modern day Herculean. "It took a Folian effort but he got it!”

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Are you honestly implying that it's okay to get away with domestic assault as long as you have the resources?  

Yes thats obviously what i am saying…

spare me your retarded semantics on a friday

46 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Why? 

A few reasons:

-- as likely constructed, the Eagles will be a playoff team again in 2024.  SF is very likely an opponent they will need to go through to get where they need to go.

-- Lane is a leader in the locker room; what he says carries significant weight among the rank-and-file guys on the team.  If he isn't confident, they won't be

-- He's thrown the coaching staff and his fellow players under the bus IMO.  There were 5 games and a playoff game after SF; the logical inference from his comments is he viewed the team as a non-contender when they were 10-2.

-- Lane is the guy who said "don't give the opponent anything; don't show anything like frustration because the opponent picks up on that".  You go from that to telling the media that the team was wrecked at 10-2??  That's a really poor look for the team and organization.  Comments like that can't go outside the locker room.

-- Even if you felt SF had figured out your offense -- regroup.  They had what should have been 4 easy games to finish the season.  Get on a roll offensively against NYG and ARI and go into the playoffs with some confidence at least.  Lane's comments show me why some posters have said the Eagles players were just going through the motions, even in the playoff game against Tampa.    

 

Gotta say it bluntly -- the leadership group among these players should come under intense scrutiny.  Reports that the defensive players went to Sirianni after the DAL game pretty much trashing Desai and his abilities, to the point where Sirianni felt he needed to relieve Desai of his duties?  Either the reaction was a kneejerk panic reaction (as Aikman asserted) or the players checked out on Desai.  Neither option is good at all.  Couple that with Brian Johnson getting fired by the organization because the offense became a dysfunctional mess.

The Eagles have changed the coaches.  Moore and Fangio are now here in place of BJ and Desai.  Not sure it'll be as easy to bring some resiliency into the building, though. 

  

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

It's based on degree of difficulty.  Flacco did it as a guy who played QB for the Jets.  

Tua came back from that really bad concussion that had people thinking he should retire