8 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

The guy is damn near 38 years old, and was overrated at 28.

He's not coming to start.

8 hours ago, Iggles25 said:

What are your thoughts on Jamari Thrash for WR3?

Dude just knows how to run routes and get separation. Has nearly perfected the route tree. Not the fastest and not a fan of his age (24), but he is looks like a plus starter right out of the gates.

And is probably there late RD3.

I dunno, some of us still have some serious PTSD

The NFL is the only profession Kelce has ever known, so it's understandable that he may want to do 1 more year of something he knows he can do vs step into a new world that he doesn't know as well.  From a fan perspective, he has nothing left to prove to any of us and should focus on his future and his health vs running it back one more time.

If dullards like Romo or Charles Davis can get paid, he will get more ,money than them in the media world. Time to enjoy the fruits of his labour and enjoy time with the family.

Brady becoming limited partner in the raiders , he will own that team before it’s all said and done 

And go Niners , tired of kc , hopefully Niners  whoop them like Tampa did 

4 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I know it may piss a lot of people off, but I think we may not be making any major additions at CB

 

Rodgers

Maddox

Slay

Bradberry

Jobe

Ringo

Ricks

Goodrich

Roby?

 

Very unlikely Bradberry’s cap hit is eaten; at best he’s a reserve corner. Pull 5-6 out of that group and cut all the other guys. Then add another guy or two and PS Ringo? Cut Ricks?

Plus the sheer amount of money we have buried in the position. Rodgers/Slay is still a strong tandem

It’s more about reality and consequences than pissing people off.  Maybe it’s impossible to make moves at corner given the limited resources they have.  So that’s "fine.”  But they won’t be competing for anything next year with that group at corner.  So if that’s what they run it back with, then 2024 is a repositioning year leading into 2025 being the year the Hurts cap hit really hits.  

12 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I know it may piss a lot of people off, but I think we may not be making any major additions at CB

 

Rodgers

Maddox

Slay

Bradberry

Jobe

Ringo

Ricks

Goodrich

Roby?

 

Very unlikely Bradberry’s cap hit is eaten; at best he’s a reserve corner. Pull 5-6 out of that group and cut all the other guys. Then add another guy or two and PS Ringo? Cut Ricks?

Plus the sheer amount of money we have buried in the position. Rodgers/Slay is still a strong tandem

I see a lot of names.  I do not see a lot of talent.

Rodgers is a year removed from being able to work with a team.   The Lions cut bait on him.  They could have held his rights on the commisioner reserve list, but they chose not to.  He's not necessarily a winning lottery ticket.

Maddox is always hurt, and frankly, isn't that good when he is healthy.  He's a slot only... which is the same position Rodgers is supposed to be best at.  His cap number is nearly $10M.  Is he a $10M player?  Absolutely NOT.  But due to the structure of his contract, unless he's a post-June 1 cut, they only save $1.9M on the cap this year (but get to carry over the void years... yay!).  Big whiff on his extension by Howie.

Slay?  Selfish and aging.  His arrow has been pointing down for 2 years now.  How many 33 year old cornerbacks play up to their past levels?   He's a name more than a player now.

Bradberry.  A 31 year old aging CB.  "But, he goes up and down every other year."  Yes, but now he's older... so his 'up' won't be what it was.   They need to move on from him.  Way too expensive for what you are getting from him.

Jobe.  ST only.

Ringo?  Maybe he can get more fluidity in his hips.  I do not see a cornerstone piece in him.

Ricks?  Mr. Grabby.  He gets beat and then hangs on for dear life.  We have to remember with guys like Jobe and Ricks coming from Alabama, these guys are basically maxed out when they enter the league.  So, they look good compared to other UDFAs, but they have virtually no more ceiling to go to.

Goodrich?   Roby?   

 

This team NEEDS some young talent at CB.  None of these guys are a building block for the future.   Rodgers/Slay is not a strong tandem.  

 

They don't have a lot of options, that part is true, but they have 4 picks in the first 3 rounds.  They need to find a CB.  Sadly, they haven't done anything to make me believe they will have any more success finding one in this year's draft than any previous one going back to 2002.  

Superbowl today

5 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I know it may piss a lot of people off, but I think we may not be making any major additions at CB

 

Rodgers

Maddox

Slay

Bradberry

Jobe

Ringo

Ricks

Goodrich

Roby?

 

Very unlikely Bradberry’s cap hit is eaten; at best he’s a reserve corner. Pull 5-6 out of that group and cut all the other guys. Then add another guy or two and PS Ringo? Cut Ricks?

Plus the sheer amount of money we have buried in the position. Rodgers/Slay is still a strong tandem

Rodgers will not be reinstated this year. The NFL stated if you bet on your own team, it is 2 year. That’s exactly what Rodgers did when he bet on the colts RB.

I generally agree it’s unlikely they would spend a high round pick in a CB, but that’s more so because of their history and the general lack of talent all over the defense in other positions. While not great, the CB group is probably the 2nd strongest group on defense.

If they don’t see Sweat as a good fit in this 3-4 they could look to trade him along with Reddick, depending on his contract situation and that he doesn’t want to drop into coverage like Fangios defense asks.

32 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Superbowl today

Chiefs again going at it without the #1 WR.  

 

 

 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Superbowl today

Big if true 

The team needs to address the CB position in a big way this off-season.  The ones already on the roster now don't provide a lot of promise.  I would expect them to pick a CB in the 1st round and add couple more in the latter rounds.  Folks are talking about drafting LB, which the team does need, but it probably won't go before CB and OT as  priority.  FA LB is still the route the team will take.  There are other needs too, and Howie will have a full-load off-season to earn his keep.

I get the need but corner isnt going to be a big splashy move. Dont see a high pick either

24 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

I get the need but corner isnt going to be a big splashy move. Dont see a high pick either

I wouldn’t be shocked if Jaylon Johnson actually reaches the market they’d be in on him. He’s still super young and very good. Had interest in him at the trade deadline. But i have a feeling he’s not going to reach FA. I think he either extends or gets tagged. Kenny Moore is an interesting FA. He’s 28 though. So not sure what he gets and not sure the eagles want a guy who in a year or two might begin his decline. Think he likely goes for the most money which i think a team with significant cap space will throw at him  

12 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

The guy is damn near 38 years old, and was overrated at 28.

I remember a couple of years ago when Sixers fans were screaming for them to trade Maxey to get Lowry. lol

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I wouldn’t be shocked if Jaylon Johnson actually reaches the market they’d be in on him. He’s still super young and very good. Had interest in him at the trade deadline. But i have a feeling he’s not going to reach FA. I think he either extends or gets tagged. Kenny Moore is an interesting FA. He’s 28 though. So not sure what he gets and not sure the eagles want a guy who in a year or two might begin his decline. Think he likely goes for the most money which i think a team with significant cap space will throw at him  

I'd love Jaylon, Sneed would be next in line if we couldn't land him. But as others have mentioned too, with so much money allocated to CB, I'm not sure if Howie would invest what it would take to land one of these two. I would love to see it, but Howie is Howie, he may only look at it through the financial prism and not what makes us better on the field, like he does with other positions and areas of the team.

Last NFL game for 7 months. It sucks that it’s the shortest season if all the sports and that’s with an extra week with the Super Bowl bye included.

The month wait from the today until free agency is the second worst sports time of the year. With the worst being June - August when it’s just boring ass regular season baseball.

The one guy I wonder if Howie would pursue is Chris Jones. I don’t think he’d hit free agency but Howie is so obsessed with the DL and Jones is so good I wonder if Howie couldn’t resist and make him their one big off-season move. Pairing him with Carter… my god.

@LeanMeanGM I think you mentioned the other day the impact of losing Roy Ivstvan. I just listened to the interview Bo had with Mailata and he dropped the news on him. Mailata was completely caught off guard and seemed VERY surprised. Complemented Roy for being the backbone to their whole operation.

I know a lot aren't fans of Bo Wulf, but the interviews they have had at the SB have been pretty good and give you little nuggets here and there. I really like Coveys interview too, dude is so realistic about his size and what he can and can't do on the field.

 

 

19 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Last NFL game for 7 months. It sucks that it’s the shortest season if all the sports and that’s with an extra week with the Super Bowl bye included.

The month wait from the today until free agency is the second worst sports time of the year. With the worst being June - August when it’s just boring ass regular season baseball.

The one guy I wonder if Howie would pursue is Chris Jones. I don’t think he’d hit free agency but Howie is so obsessed with the DL and Jones is so good I wonder if Howie couldn’t resist and make him their one big off-season move. Pairing him with Carter… my god.

Just draft his clone in april

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Last NFL game for 7 months. It sucks that it’s the shortest season if all the sports and that’s with an extra week with the Super Bowl bye included.

The month wait from the today until free agency is the second worst sports time of the year. With the worst being June - August when it’s just boring ass regular season baseball.

The one guy I wonder if Howie would pursue is Chris Jones. I don’t think he’d hit free agency but Howie is so obsessed with the DL and Jones is so good I wonder if Howie couldn’t resist and make him their one big off-season move. Pairing him with Carter… my god.

I really don't want to go Jones. He's going to get what, over 30 mil per year, at age 29 turning 30 before the season starts. Yeah, I mean the thought of him paired with Carter is ridiculous, but there's too many needs on this team to go there, for me. If you want to make a splash, maybe Burns or Josh Allen, they're both younger. But I really want to redo this cornerback room from top to bottom but I guess Slay is not tradable. In free agency I want one of the top two corners plus a high end safety like Kamren Curl or Mckinney. Those would by two pretty big contracts. Then come back in the draft with another S and LB within the top 3 picks. CB possibly too but it depends on who is there. 

Why would KC let him walk ?

They have cap room 

teams won’t let their best players walk 

2 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

I really don't want to go Jones. He's going to get what, over 30 mil per year, at age 29 turning 30 before the season starts. Yeah, I mean the thought of him paired with Carter is ridiculous, but there's too many needs on this team to go there, for me. If you want to make a splash, maybe Burns or Josh Allen, they're both younger. But I really want to redo this cornerback room from top to bottom but I guess Slay is not tradable. In free agency I want one of the top two corners plus a high end safety like Kamren Curl or Mckinney. Those would by two pretty big contracts. Then come back in the draft with another S and LB within the top 3 picks. CB possibly too but it depends on who is there. 

I think that's more likely, I don't think KC will let Jones go and if they do he probably goes to a team that would pay him like 40 million per season, a bad team that has money to burn and ridiculously overpay. I do wonder if they'd throw a lot of money at a CB considering what they're paying the position. They'll have to eat money with Bradberry. I could see Snead possibly. I think if they splurge at one position it'll be safety, especially if Winfield hits the market. Not sure if that would happen either, he probably gets tagged, but it's possible Tampa doesn't want to pay a safety that kind of money and doesn't tag him. He'd be my #1 target if he hits the market. He's such a good player and would give Fangio that stud safety.

There's no LB I'm willing to break the bank for. Queen isn't that great, will get way overpaid. Azeez Al-Shaair is possible since they brought in Bobby King. Or perhaps they just sign a guy like David or Wagner for cheap for one year and then hope you get a guy you like in the draft. I like so many LBs this year in the draft.

7 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

I really don't want to go Jones. He's going to get what, over 30 mil per year, at age 29 turning 30 before the season starts. Yeah, I mean the thought of him paired with Carter is ridiculous, but there's too many needs on this team to go there, for me. If you want to make a splash, maybe Burns or Josh Allen, they're both younger. But I really want to redo this cornerback room from top to bottom but I guess Slay is not tradable. In free agency I want one of the top two corners plus a high end safety like Kamren Curl or Mckinney. Those would by two pretty big contracts. Then come back in the draft with another S and LB within the top 3 picks. CB possibly too but it depends on who is there. 

Burns makes more sense as he’s 25 and there’s a chance that one of sweat or Reddick isn’t back here long term. Ej smith discussed it with Bo and Berman. Solak and Sheil have also discussed Reddick potentially not being here long term. Burns is 25 and in his prime. Feels like that’s the type of pass rusher the eagles would throw huge money at in FA. It’s a position they covet and he’s entering his prime.