42 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Almost willing to bet my life savings the Eagles don't draft CB, S, LB with their first three picks

It's not really an interesting bet unless it's at least $20, though.

8 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

It’s a difficult one for them because Purdy does put up good numbers so there will be a lot who think he is the answer. I just think he’s a result of the scheme and the players he has around him. Put him in any other team in the league and he’s average at best.

Could be said for alot of QBs, including our own.   

KC’s corners were phenomenal last night. McDuffie is a stud and Snead is great too. Blanket coverage on almost every play down the field. Not a yard of separation. 

Apparently san fran didn't know how OT worked even though the ref explained it during the coin toss.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10109057-49ers-players-admit-they-didnt-know-nfls-super-bowl-ot-rules-in-loss-vs-chiefs

 

They sure didn't seem like they understood it with the long clock killing drive they had and settled for a FG.

I was confused when the Chiefs burned 20 seconds before the game winner, but then realized they were so confident in that play they didn't care.

Just a warning, its schadenfreude Monday

 

 

1 minute ago, wussbasket said:

Apparently san fran didn't know how OT worked even though the ref explained it during the coin toss.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10109057-49ers-players-admit-they-didnt-know-nfls-super-bowl-ot-rules-in-loss-vs-chiefs

 

They sure didn't seem like they understood it with the long clock killing drive they had and settled for a FG.

I was confused when the Chiefs burned 20 seconds before the game winner, but then realized they were so confident in that play they didn't care.

The Chiefs didn't care if the time ran out because it would have just gone to a second "quarter" of OT 

2 minutes ago, paco said:

 

2 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

The Chiefs didn't care if the time ran out because it would have just gone to a second "quarter" of OT 

Ahh. So it spills over, I just thought that would be the end of OT. Shows I don't even know the rules, but i'm also not the one being paid millions to know this stuff.

4 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Apparently san fran didn't know how OT worked even though the ref explained it during the coin toss.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10109057-49ers-players-admit-they-didnt-know-nfls-super-bowl-ot-rules-in-loss-vs-chiefs

 

They sure didn't seem like they understood it with the long clock killing drive they had and settled for a FG.

I was confused when the Chiefs burned 20 seconds before the game winner, but then realized they were so confident in that play they didn't care.

It's not really crucial for each player to know, but the coaches sure need to.  When it's guaranteed that both teams will get a possession on offense, even if the first team scores a TD, it really wasn't the smart move to take the ball first.

Shanahan could always argue that if both teams score a TD then it becomes sudden death, and they would have had the ball.  That's a stretch, though -- and the end result was they didn't score a TD on offense and lost because of it.

9 minutes ago, paco said:

Just a warning, its schadenfreude Monday

 

Someone on the 49ers Reddit said, "the chiefs couldn’t win anything without Patrick Mahomes 🤷‍♂️.” As if that some some kind of insult that made any sense
 

So I replied, "Neither can you”

Just now, Alphagrand said:

It's not really crucial for each player to know, but the coaches sure need to.  When it's guaranteed that both teams will get a possession on offense, even if the first team scores a TD, it really wasn't the smart move to take the ball first.

Shanahan could always argue that if both teams score a TD then it becomes sudden death, and they would have had the ball.  That's a stretch, though -- and the end result was they didn't score a TD on offense and lost because of it.

I would say players need to generally know the rules to help with certain situations on the field, but the coaches clearly didn't understand with the way things unfolded. Taking possession first and the way they ran their drive. Seemed like they were trying to kill clock to not let KC have enough time, but that wasn't the case anyways. Both in how it unfolded and how the rules are.

 

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

It's not really crucial for each player to know, but the coaches sure need to.  When it's guaranteed that both teams will get a possession on offense, even if the first team scores a TD, it really wasn't the smart move to take the ball first.

Shanahan could always argue that if both teams score a TD then it becomes sudden death, and they would have had the ball.  That's a stretch, though -- and the end result was they didn't score a TD on offense and lost because of it.

After the game Shanahan said analytics said to take the ball and they wanted the potential third possession. A guy from ESPN ran thousands of simulations and say it’s essentially a coin flip whether to kick or take the ball. IMO you kick and not give Mahomes the knowledge of what has to be done on his possession with a built in advantage of automatically going for it on fourth down or going for 2 for the win.

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

It's not really crucial for each player to know, but the coaches sure need to.  When it's guaranteed that both teams will get a possession on offense, even if the first team scores a TD, it really wasn't the smart move to take the ball first.

Shanahan could always argue that if both teams score a TD then it becomes sudden death, and they would have had the ball.  That's a stretch, though -- and the end result was they didn't score a TD on offense and lost because of it.

I heard on the radio that Shanahan DID say that was his reason for taking the ball first - getting it first during the sudden victory portion of OT.  That's making a lot of assumptions, though.  

7 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

It's not really crucial for each player to know, but the coaches sure need to.  When it's guaranteed that both teams will get a possession on offense, even if the first team scores a TD, it really wasn't the smart move to take the ball first.

Shanahan could always argue that if both teams score a TD then it becomes sudden death, and they would have had the ball.  That's a stretch, though -- and the end result was they didn't score a TD on offense and lost because of it.

I mentioned the same thing you said in your second paragraph last night. That’s the only way it helps you in the new OT format. But you would need to be tied after both teams had a possession. But frankly if the niners scored a TD and the chiefs go down and score a TD, i kind of think the chiefs would’ve gone for two as their defense was looked gas and not able to prevent the niners from moving the ball down the field and a fg would’ve won the game. They never should’ve allowed mahomes to get the chance to work with the knowledge he had 4 downs each time and giving the chiefs the possibility even if the niners scored a td of going for the win with a 2 point conversion.   

Just now, ManuManu said:

After the game Shanahan said analytics said to take the ball and they wanted the potential third possession. A guy from ESPN ran thousands of simulations and say it’s essentially a coin flip whether to kick or take the ball. IMO you kick and not give Mahomes the knowledge of what has to be done on his possession with a built in advantage of automatically going for it on fourth down or going for 2 for the win.

The 49ers defense being tired at the end of 2nd half is also a good reason to want the ball.

49ers D on their first drive in OT had Mahomes/Chiefs in 4th and 1. If Bosa hits Kelce instead of crashing towards the RB, they win the SB. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

After the game Shanahan said analytics said to take the ball and they wanted the potential third possession. A guy from ESPN ran thousands of simulations and say it’s essentially a coin flip whether to kick or take the ball. IMO you kick and not give Mahomes the knowledge of what has to be done on his possession with a built in advantage of automatically going for it on fourth down or going for 2 for the win.

100% you kick. Having an extra down is a huge difference.  Also 49ers shouldn't have even kicked the FG imo.  If you're down at the 5 go for the TD the way the rules are.  You know Mahomes has a good chance of getting a TD there

Rat Jr Kyle Shanahan is the King of all chokers. Handed a Super Team over and over and can’t win, couple that with the Atlanta SB and you get King Choker.

And F Hargrave too

The chiefs wanted that game more. You could see the frustration from Travis Kelce and Mahomes. Travis ran like a mad man on that catch in the 4th and absolutely destroyed that DB right before they kicked the FG to send it to OT.

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

The 49ers defense being tired at the end of 2nd half is also a good reason to want the ball.

49ers D on their first drive in OT had Mahomes/Chiefs in 4th and 1. If Bosa hits Kelce instead of crashing towards the RB, they win the SB. 

 giving the niners defense a rest of 7.5 minutes of game time wasn’t changing the fact they were gassed and tired. They gave up a TD anyway. If you wanna play the what if game, if officials didn’t blatantly F up multiple spots in that game some of those 4th downs don’t exist. Even if SF gave up a TD first then the chiefs likely kick an extra point and you have a chance to go down score a TD and go for the win with a 2 point conversion 

3 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

The chiefs wanted that game more. You could see the frustration from Travis Kelce and Mahomes. Travis ran like a mad man on that catch in the 4th and absolutely destroyed that DB right before they kicked the FG to send it to OT.

It was a good job by kelce to get out of bounds to preserve the TO they had left in case the next play they got sacked on the next play. That said i thought he was gonna try to get out of bounds a couple yards earlier so they’d have a couple extra second to have multiple shots at the end zone.  

The NFC really isn’t crap. The Eagles have a prime opportunity to get back next season and win it all as long as Howie doesn’t F up the off-season. So please don’t trade Reddick. That would start this huge off-season with a kick in the balls.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It was a good job by kelce to get out of bounds to preserve the TO they had left in case the next play they got sacked on the next play. That said i thought he was gonna try to get out of bounds a couple yards earlier so they’d have a couple extra second to have multiple shots at the end zone.  

I wonder if Kelce thought he could plow right through him, because if he did that was game. Would be interesting to get his thoughts on that play and what he was thinking.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 giving the niners defense a rest of 7.5 minutes of game time wasn’t changing the fact they were gassed and tired. They gave up a TD anyway. If you wanna play the what if game, if officials didn’t blatantly F up multiple spots in that game some of those 4th downs don’t exist. Even if SF gave up a TD first then the chiefs likely kick an extra point and you have a chance to go down score a TD and go for the win with a 2 point conversion 

Chiefs were sleepwalking the entire first half.  If the Niners weren't shooting themselves in the foot constantly fumbling and taking dumb penalties they could have been up a lot more than 10-3.  My brother is a life-long Chiefs fan, and when I texted him after the game he said the Bills were the only matchup in the playoffs that worried him at all; the only reason the Super Bowl was close was because the Chiefs allowed SF to hang around.  

Looking at how the Niners shouldn't have beaten either GB or DET, I can understand how he felt that way.