3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Agree, the situation is completely different. He just meant he doesn't think it's going to be as easy as Reddick going out and coming back with a number that Howie will match. 

For sure.  I don’t think the Eagles want to get into a long-term contract. I think the ultimate conclusion to this is he’s gonna be back here on that last year of his deal. They’re gonna give him a bump in pay to smooth it over for a year. I do think at the trade deadline. There’s a chance he could be traded depending on where the Eagles are. If the Eagles are not good, or not considered a title contender, then I see them trying to pull the trigger.

 

I'd rather the Eagles trade both than just one of them. Irrespective of Reddick, I really really don't want them to pay Sweat. Dude had one season where he put it all together, and that was a season where everyone was racking up sacks on the team. I just feel he's a situational pass rusher. You can find guys that give you 90% of what Sweat gives you for much cheaper than he'll command.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

Who the hell is still getting the vax at this point? First two or three rounds? OK. Still??? That crap seems to have more issues than getting sick at this point. The last one felt like an ice pick was going through my eye at night. Screw that again.

Calm down there, Copernicus. My post was in reference to her comments back in 2021. 

Here's a scary thought. KC will likely be better next year :-/ Their offensive weapons were pretty trash and they still won it all.

7 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I'd rather the Eagles trade both than just one of them. Irrespective of Reddick, I really really don't want them to pay Sweat. Dude had one season where he put it all together, and that was a season where everyone was racking up sacks on the team. I just feel he's a situational pass rusher. You can find guys that give you 90% of what Sweat gives you for much cheaper than he'll command.

I think my bigger concern with sweat is that I don’t know if he’s going to age well. I kind of think there’s a chance he begins breaking down more and it’s going to get worse over the next couple years. I would actually try to trade him while his value is still high because I think you can replace him easier than you could replace Hassan Reddick (think it’s not easy to replace either). I’d rather go down with the sinking ship of Reddick in his 30s then sweat who I don’t think is ever going to be as good as Reddick and his body might not hold up even if he’s 26 right now 

15 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Actually thought Fletch outplayed BG this season.  I thought Kelce and the entire OL had a down year.   He will be 36.  Let Cam play C where he belongs. None of those three are on the vet minimum. Time to move on.

Fletch definitely outplayed BG, which is why he'll be more $ and why they shouldn't resign him. BG has already said he has 1 year left, wants it to be here, and will essentially take a team-friendly deal. He SHOULD be a 4th guy in the rotation. And letting Kelce walk right now if he wants to play would be a worse choice than letting Dawk walk. If Kelce wants to play, and they want the 5 best available guys on their o-line, they give him another year.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

We all could put him on ignore. However when it becomes repeatedly him doing what he did then i tend to think a lesson is more productive to not having it occur again. We’ve suspended people on here for similar things he did last night. 

Sure.  And that doesn't mean I agreed with those decisions either.   Like I said, to each their own.   We'll disagree on this one.   No big deal.

We are making the Super Bowl next year!!! It’s green 

 

4 minutes ago, judunno said:

Here's a scary thought. KC will likely be better next year 😕 Their offensive weapons were pretty trash and they still won it all.

100% they’re gonna have an on-paper top 10-15 WR corps in 2024. They have some money and a clear need. They were horribly exposed in that department and Mahomes did it anyway. IMO that’s one of the more impressive QB feats. Brady had weak receivers for awhile, but Deion Branch laps Scantling, Rice, Hardman

5 minutes ago, judunno said:

Here's a scary thought. KC will likely be better next year 😕 Their offensive weapons were pretty trash and they still won it all.

Did you make this post in 2023 or 2024?

27 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Berman thinks a Reddick trade is happening. Caplan is "Pessimistic" this goes down the way Slay did. That's the only two predictions I've heard so far. I wonder if they heard something more off the record during the SB week. 

Howie is at his best when he's ruthless and not emotionally attached to players.

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think my bigger concern with sweat is that I don’t know if he’s going to age well. I kind of think there’s a chance he begins breaking down more and it’s going to get worse over the next couple years. I would actually try to trade him while his value is still high because I think you can replace him easier than you could replace Hassan Reddick (think it’s not easy to replace either). I’d rather go down with the sinking ship of Reddick in his 30s then sweat who I don’t think is ever going to be as good as Reddick and his body might not hold up even if he’s 26 right now 

I agree, but even if he didn't break down and maintained his current play, he's not anywhere close to worth 20m per season. Other than 2022, he's always been a guy who will flash in quarter and plays, but be invisible for weeks or be invisible for the rest of games. And a lot of his sacks seem to come in bunches. Like he'll get 2.5 in one game and then none the next 3 games. I think paying a guy who can get you 7 sacks a season 8-10 million per season is a much better route than paying Sweat 20.

2 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

100% they’re gonna have an on-paper top 10-15 WR corps in 2024. They have some money and a clear need. They were horribly exposed in that department and Mahomes did it anyway. IMO that’s one of the more impressive QB feats. Brady had weak receivers for awhile, but Deion Branch laps Scantling, Rice, Hardman

Don’t think Rice is bad. Build him into their rotation.  

4 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Fletch definitely outplayed BG, which is why he'll be more $ and why they shouldn't resign him. BG has already said he has 1 year left, wants it to be here, and will essentially take a team-friendly deal. He SHOULD be a 4th guy in the rotation. And letting Kelce walk right now if he wants to play would be a worse choice than letting Dawk walk. If Kelce wants to play, and they want the 5 best available guys on their o-line, they give him another year.

I'm pretty sure Kelce is done, but I've been mistaken plenty of times.  Last year, he let the Eagles know before the free agency window he was returning so we should know for sure in the next few weeks.  I think March 11 is the start of the legal tampering period this year. 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

We are making the Super Bowl next year!!! It’s green 

 

I must actually be color blind because multiple people have said Seahawks and you just said this is green. I don't see green even a little bit. I see neon yellow and red

8 minutes ago, judunno said:

Here's a scary thought. KC will likely be better next year 😕 Their offensive weapons were pretty trash and they still won it all.

Yeah, I think they’re gonna make a splash in the wide receiver market. They can get rid of MVS and save $12 million. I think they know they can win it without going and making improvements to the wide receiving corps. But I also think they know it was much harder for them to win it this year With what they had to go through in the regular season and the struggles they had on offense and better wide receivers might have avoided them having to go through the harder path to get where they got to. That’s why I think they make the move. 

In 2018, the Eagles traded for Michael Bennett. After Malik Jackson's injury, Bennett stepped up and had a very good year. In the off-season after 2018, Bennett wanted more money. Eagles traded him to the Pats, where he struggled and was out of the league the year after.

It goes FAST for undersized pass-rushers.

52 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I watched it. Don’t quite agree but I don’t really give a damn.  I did think the game was yet another example of poor officiating.  Bad spots and offensive holding not called throughout.  Thought the McDuffie holding call was bad call.    

Sorry you don't agree.   There's really nothing to disagree about though.   It is black and white, the OL were ALL behind the LOS when the ball was released by Jennings, and that's the rule.  

 

But, I agree, the game was very poorly officiated, just not on THAT particular play.   It looked bad because of how long the ball was in the air from Jennings to CMC.  But, the guy everyone focused on is #64.  And he was still within the LOS while the ball was nearly there.

The hold on McDuffie was iffy.  The Intentional Grounding on Mahomes was awful.  The spots were pretty pathetic most of the entire game.  But, this particular play... they got it right, 100%.

 

8 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Don’t think Rice is bad. Build him into their rotation.  

I agree, but he’s not yet the #1, and this year he’ll have to prove he’s a worthy #2. But if he were the #3 because they got some combination of Adams/Hollywood/Hopkins/Ridley/Higgins/Round 1 phenom…

AFCW is only going to further become Brady’s AFCE

45 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Maybe we can call for people to stop using name calling as their only means of posting simply cause it’s "occassionally” 

Might be time to just move on from the topic.   It is what it is.  (Or more exactly, it was what it was.) And he's not been back since, so maybe he did get a vacation.   Let's not let it dominate the next few weeks.   Far too much time and energy has already been spent on it.   In his drunkenness he decided to gloat about Andy getting another ring.  So, the count is now Andy 3, Eagles 1.  Of course, the Eagles got theirs before Andy got his first... and Andy wouldn't get any of these without Mahomes... which happened because of Veach.  

 

My bigger issue is that Howie continues to be our draft guy... and he's proven incapable of drafting defense, doesn't value LB at all, ignored S and has hitched far too much money to players whose best years are behind them.   

Given many teams(the Eagles one of them) use like a regular 8 man DL rotation, the odds are you're going to have someone on the DL every couple years approaching 30. If your philosophy is to move on when they near 30, and your philosophy is also to put a way greater emphasis on DL than other aspects of the defense.... the end result is not using a first round defensive pick on any position than DL in over 20 years.

They draft replacements for guys who are currently under contract and productive before they become unproductive and sometimes even before they leave town. It's no wonder why they can't ever put together a young, high quality, sustainable back 7. WIth the DL they're like the cartoon of plugging the dam with your finger and then another hole opens up and then you gotta plug that one. At some point something has to give. You can't go over 20 years without taking any other areas of the defense with first rounders.

I'm hoping this is going to be the year. A month ago you'd figure they could finally take CB this year possibly. Now with yesterday's news, it's feeling more and more like somehow, some way they're going to wind up taking DL in the first round yet again. This front office knows how to build an offense, but they're utter crap at constructing a defense and have been for years.

So apparently Zimmer hit a snag and the Cowboys are now looking elsewhere? Wonder what the deal is with all this.

44 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Don’t really think this is the same thing as slay. Slay was a 32 year old corner going on 33. Teams didn’t have the value for him that the eagles had for him to stay here. I think Reddick being the type of pass rusher he is will find a team willing to pay him and give what they think is fair compensation (guess a 2nd rounder). I think his market is going to be more fruitful then slay’s. 

Slay is also far more vocal.  Reddick just goes about his business.   I think a lot of teams value that far more than we give them credit for.  

Reddick should fetch SOMETHING.   Personally, I'd be happy with a 3rd round pick this year, with a conditional pick that could go as high as a 1st if he meets certain standards... 12+ sacks, All-Pro, etc.   Make it like the Wentz deal years ago.  That was a 3rd and a conditional 2nd, that could elevate to a first.    Something like that for Reddick could work.  The conditions would likely need to be higher for Reddick, and the baseline compensation could likely start at a 3rd this year and next... and then have escalators to a 2nd and then a 1st for 2025 draft.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Might be time to just move on from the topic.   It is what it is.  (Or more exactly, it was what it was.) And he's not been back since, so maybe he did get a vacation.   Let's not let it dominate the next few weeks.   Far too much time and energy has already been spent on it.   In his drunkenness he decided to gloat about Andy getting another ring.  So, the count is now Andy 3, Eagles 1.  Of course, the Eagles got theirs before Andy got his first... and Andy wouldn't get any of these without Mahomes... which happened because of Veach.  

 

My bigger issue is that Howie continues to be our draft guy... and he's proven incapable of drafting defense, doesn't value LB at all, ignored S and has hitched far too much money to players whose best years are behind them.   

I’m not sure it’s simply howie that doesn’t value Lb and not Lurie/organizationally obliges to that theory. One day Howie won’t be here and I’d not be surprised if that trend continues. Even Reid learned he needed LBs in KC.

Frankly i wanted after 2020 a complete tear down of the defense. Meaning moving on from some older guys (keeping one or two to be mentors) and getting whatever they could for them. And doing what the chiefs essentially did in 2021 and 2022 by having jones and surrounding him with young talent then adding a piece here and there as the defense was closer to being completely rebuilt. Unfortunately we really didn’t go that direction and it’s frankly why our defense has this high peaks and low valleys in a short period of time. 

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Slay is also far more vocal.  Reddick just goes about his business.   I think a lot of teams value that far more than we give them credit for.  

Reddick should fetch SOMETHING.   Personally, I'd be happy with a 3rd round pick this year, with a conditional pick that could go as high as a 1st if he meets certain standards... 12+ sacks, All-Pro, etc.   Make it like the Wentz deal years ago.  That was a 3rd and a conditional 2nd, that could elevate to a first.    Something like that for Reddick could work.  The conditions would likely need to be higher for Reddick, and the baseline compensation could likely start at a 3rd this year and next... and then have escalators to a 2nd and then a 1st for 2025 draft.

Tbh i rather trade sweat than Reddick.  I tend to think sweat doesn’t age well and he’s more likely going to be on a poorer contract next time. If the eagles, lurie and howie didn’t believe this was their SB window I’d actually say tear a lot of it down and keep the young players and stockpile picks and use it to build up the defense. But i know they don’t want to use this year to do that and believe they can compete and win a Super Bowl. I think long term on defense they’d be better off going with the tear and stockpiling picks for guys like Reddick, sweat, slay (not sure you get much).