32 minutes ago, judunno said:

You have an agenda 

It’s an agenda to say Lawrence, Tua, and CJ are better than Purdy?

28 minutes ago, devpool said:

Should probably wait more than one season before we start crowning people

We/Eagles fans/media/Lowie crowned Hurts after one good season.

Players can be crowned at any point. The whole point of crowning a king is they are king until they are not. 

5 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

It’s an agenda to say Lawrence, Tua, and CJ are better than Purdy?

Purdy is just the latest reminder of the complexity of the QB position.

It's the single most important position in sports, yet simultaneously one of the most dependent positions in sports.  No QB...certainly not even Brady or Mahomes...can achieve liftoff between the ages of 22-25 without excellent coaching, protection, and open targets.  

If the best young QB on the planet is denied those things, they will never develop or perform near the level of an average, coachable guy that has all those things at his disposal.

They don't give out awards for the most talented QB that does the most with the least.  What matters is what you do.  Purdy may be/is a system QB, but he's got the best combination of coaching/OL/weapons/defense, so he is the most successful of Lawrence, Tua, and CJ (so far).  We can argue all we want that they'd be better in the same situation, but they aren't better in their situations.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Players can be crowned at any point. The whole point of crowning a king is they are king until they are not. 

45 minutes ago, devpool said:

Should probably wait more than one season before we start crowning people

Have you seen him throw the football? Have you seen hurts throw the football? Not a whole lot more to see to know he’s better

36 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Not that I put much stock in what they’re saying, but let’s say it’s true… I think acquiring Allgeier as a secondary piece makes a ton of sense. 

I wouldn't be that excited about him.  But Atlanta makes sense.  They seem to suck at finding pass rushers and here is a proven commodity. 

I see a Facebook post saying per Albert Breer the broncos are listening to trade offers for Surtain and the Eagles are showing interest. 

Is this true?

I've seen several people on TV confused as to why there was a clock used in OT when its not needed.

I kinda wish they'd make the OT rules the same for both regular season and post season.  It's much better if both teams get at least 1 possession. 

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

We/Eagles fans/media/Lowie crowned Hurts after one good season.

Most did yea, the ones who didn't were labeled haters or racists. Like we didn't watch the exact same thing happen with wentz and were wary to do so 

29 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I see a Facebook post saying per Albert Breer the broncos are listening to trade offers for Surtain and the Eagles are showing interest. 

Is this true?

Doubt it, I don't see a way they can afford surtain while they still have slay even with a post June 1st bradberry cut. Unless they do trade Reddick and use whatever draft capital and cap space they get from that in a deal for surtain. But then they just create another gaping hole and will ensure they force edge with their first pick. 

4 minutes ago, devpool said:

Doubt it, I don't see a way they can afford surtain while they still have slay even with a post June 1st bradberry cut. Unless they do trade Reddick and use whatever draft capital and cap space they get from that in a deal for surtain. But then they just create another gaping hole and will ensure they force edge with their first pick. 

Reddick and Bradberry plus picks for Surtain can clear some room. 

26 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Reddick and Bradberry plus picks for Surtain can clear some room. 

Howie sucks at drafting defensive players or they could use those picks to improve the rest of the defense and save money for a few years. 

I think Burns or Johnson will be high on the list with cuts post June 1st to free up the space. 

He will reach for a DE and use at least one 2nd on OL. I wouldn't be shocked to see a WR in the 2nd as well. 

Vet LB and maybe a journeyman safety. 

I say to this kid at work Reid didn't win a Superbowl here because of two words, and the kid gets all pissed off and says don't start that. Those two words of course were going to be Donovan McNabb. He also is blaming the coaches for this year's collapse and not Hurts.

I'll cut him a little slack on the McNabb thing, he was in grade school when Donnie was choking in NFC championship games. Hurts is following the same trajectory though.

1 hour ago, 315Eagles said:

I've seen several people on TV confused as to why there was a clock used in OT when its not needed.

I kinda wish they'd make the OT rules the same for both regular season and post season.  It's much better if both teams get at least 1 possession. 

Outside in the elements the clock would make more of a difference.  If there were wind gusts you’d see strategy about whether you wanted the quarter to end or not, in terms of having to switch ends 

27 minutes ago, Krump said:

I say to this kid at work Reid didn't win a Superbowl here because of two words, and the kid gets all pissed off and says don't start that. Those two words of course were going to be Donovan McNabb. He also is blaming the coaches for this year's collapse and not Hurts.

I'll cut him a little slack on the McNabb thing, he was in grade school when Donnie was choking in NFC championship games. Hurts is following the same trajectory though.

The Eagles went to the NFC Championship game from 2001-2004 which was, in essence, their Super Bowl window.  2001 against the Rams they were unlikely to win; the Rams were 14-2 to the Eagles 11-5.  McNabb was okay in that game IIRC.

2002 and 2003 were both disgraceful losses, and McNabb was bad in both games.  2004 they got to the Super Bowl and the other team cheated.  McNabb also bears some responsibility for 2008 because I think the Eagles were down 24-6 before McNabb woke up.  Sadly, JJ’s defense couldn’t get a stop near the end when the Eagles had all the momentum.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

I see a Facebook post saying per Albert Breer the broncos are listening to trade offers for Surtain and the Eagles are showing interest. 

Is this true?

No

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Players can be crowned at any point. The whole point of crowning a king is they are king until they are not. 

 

59 minutes ago, Krump said:

I say to this kid at work Reid didn't win a Superbowl here because of two words, and the kid gets all pissed off and says don't start that. Those two words of course were going to be Donovan McNabb. He also is blaming the coaches for this year's collapse and not Hurts.

I'll cut him a little slack on the McNabb thing, he was in grade school when Donnie was choking in NFC championship games. Hurts is following the same trajectory though.

 

26 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The Eagles went to the NFC Championship game from 2001-2004 which was, in essence, their Super Bowl window.  2001 against the Rams they were unlikely to win; the Rams were 14-2 to the Eagles 11-5.  McNabb was okay in that game IIRC.

2002 and 2003 were both disgraceful losses, and McNabb was bad in both games.  2004 they got to the Super Bowl and the other team cheated.  McNabb also bears some responsibility for 2008 because I think the Eagles were down 24-6 before McNabb woke up.  Sadly, JJ’s defense couldn’t get a stop near the end when the Eagles had all the momentum.

The Rams were unstoppable during that period, and it was the best game the Eagles played in those NFC championship games they lost. I thought McNabb had a big game against the Rams, but he only had 170 yards passing, but he was decent. I honestly believe the only reason the Eagles got to a Superbowl in the Reid era was because they had to face Mike Vick to get to the Superbowl. Vick wasn't able to beat a good team in the playoffs by throwing.

The fact McNabb was able to drag those limp D offenses to the NFCCG 4 times with nothing at WR until TO was a feat in and of itself. Obviously he had a great run game and defense but dude was throwing to thrash and Pinkston, he was never put in the best position to succeed but he did anyway. By the time they finally gave him DJax and Maclin he was past his prime and still almost got back to the Super Bowl.

Andy was also god awful with clock management back then, he wasn't without his own flaws.

Had they given McNabb even one legitimate WR instead of two pylons in those early years, or if they were able to contain the TO situation better, they would've won a super bowl. 

I'm not saying McNabb was amazing or a HOF QB, but he was very good and definitely not the only thing that kept this team from winning at that time.

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Reddick and Bradberry plus picks for Surtain can clear some room. 

They would probably demand our 1st this year, which this FO wouldn't be willing to give because they would use it to draft Reddick's replacement. 

10 hours ago, Birdman said:

I doubt there's any tension between the two, AR has probably already forgotten about it...

Emotions were high, heat of the moment type deal and Travis is just as competitive as Jason 

I mean I get what you are saying but that was way past the line. You just can’t be doing things like that.

10 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Sire, in the narrow discussion of an MVP race. But that’s not really how the Purdy discourse is couched. Besides the vast majority of the people don’t believe Purdy is one of the most 3-5 valuable players in the sport. Much of the discourse around Purdy is that he isn’t good and that he’s propped up by his supporting cast and scheme. He’s just a cheaper Jimmy G. IMO, the vast majority of fans are actually underrating him. 

But he is just a cheaper and slightly better Jimmy G. He has a really good OL so has protection. He has an elite run game with a RB who also catches a lot of passes and lines up everywhere. And then he has a top 3 TE, an elite WR, an outstanding #2 WR and other pretty good weapons. Not to mention a HC who runs a really good offense that is creative and gets guys in space.

Put Purdy in any other team in the league and he’s average at best.

1 hour ago, devpool said:

The fact McNabb was able to drag those limp D offenses to the NFCCG 4 times with nothing at WR until TO was a feat in and of itself. Obviously he had a great run game and defense but dude was throwing to thrash and Pinkston, he was never put in the best position to succeed but he did anyway. By the time they finally gave him DJax and Maclin he was past his prime and still almost got back to the Super Bowl.

Andy was also god awful with clock management back then, he wasn't without his own flaws.

Had they given McNabb even one legitimate WR instead of two pylons in those early years, or if they were able to contain the TO situation better, they would've won a super bowl. 

I'm not saying McNabb was amazing or a HOF QB, but he was very good and definitely not the only thing that kept this team from winning at that time.

McNabb had more turnovers than touchdowns in his playoffs career. The three picks against the Panthers and that complete stinker of a game against the Buccaneers were ugly. I highly doubt Reid makes it to that one Superbowl appearance here if the Eagles didn't go up against a Micheal Vick led Falcons. Vicks weaknesses were very apparent come the playoffs.