3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Well then, maybe its a negotiation tactic where he sees what other teams would offer him on an extension if he were traded. Then he can choose the eagles offer, or the other teams offer and have the eagles complete the trade.

I like to hear that. Trading your best players in their prime is not how a good team operates. Especially trading the best player from the defense when the defense stunk and needs to find ways to get better, not worse.

Id be happy to extend him for 3 years. 

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

Trade Sweat, keep Reddick.

I would investigate to see his value. But I'm not giving him away. 

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Do we get to win the Super Bowl? 

It doesn’t matter. That has nothing to do with the conversation

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Frankly, I think this is always come down to the Eagles know they can only afford to pay Josh sweat and Hassan Reddick. And they rather pay Josh sweat because they think it’s gonna be more reasonable and he’s younger. I don’t necessarily think you should pay Josh sweat either.  he was really not good after the first month of the season. And i really worry about his body particularly his knee holding up as he gets older with more were on his body. 

2 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Howie prepping the fan base for a trade while trying to make Reddick look like the bad guy? 

I thought the initial report was that Howie was allowing Reddick and his agent to try to find a trade not that Reddick demanded a trade?

22 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

This is actually a wildly unpredictable draft. Eagles could go just about any position other than QB/K/P/LS in Round 1 and it would make sense. That's a bad problem. 

But to answer the question, it's probably going to be T/G or DE. 

Is there a consensus round 1 off the ball LB? I know Jeremiah has Cooper as a top 20 prospect but I think others have Liufau ahead of him.  

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Frankly, I think this is always come down to the Eagles know they can only afford to pay Josh sweat and Hassan Reddick. And they rather pay Josh sweat because they think it’s gonna be more reasonable and he’s younger. I don’t necessarily think you should pay Josh sweat either.  he was really not good after the first month of the season. And i really worry about his body particularly his knee holding up as he gets older with more were on his body. 

I am going to blame you no matter the outcome.  

11 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Well then, maybe its a negotiation tactic where he sees what other teams would offer him on an extension if he were traded. Then he can choose the eagles offer, or the other teams offer and have the eagles complete the trade.

I like to hear that. Trading your best players in their prime is not how a good team operates. Especially trading the best player from the defense when the defense stunk and needs to find ways to get better, not worse.

Id be happy to extend him for 3 years. 

You and I are on the same wavelength on this. it is to find a top 10 pass rusher in the league in the middle of his prime. We were fortunate he was out there in free agency. Cause that’s not always the case. I get he’s going to be 30 but people are acting like he’s just gonna fall off a cliff at 31 or 32. There’s pass rushers that don’t completely fall off a cliff 30-32. even if you gave him a four-year extension where year 4 you can get out of it and save some cap Space it’s not an awful deal.

I think this comes down to the fact that they don’t wanna have to pay Josh sweat and Hassan Reddick. Because they know they can’t afford both. But I’m not so sure paying Josh sweat over Reddick is a good idea just cause he likely is cheaper and younger.

said  yesterday if the Eagles didn’t view themselves as a Super Bowl contender next year. in a rebuild then I’d say you know what trade him because your building for the future and his long-term future is not there with the Eagles by the time the rebuild was done. But they’re not. They view themselves as a Super Bowl contender. So if you trade Reddick how is that helping you next year? It’s very unlikely you replace him and getting that type of player in 2024. 

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

I am going to blame you no matter the outcome.  

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I thought the initial report was that Howie was allowing Reddick and his agent to try to find a trade not that Reddick demanded a trade?

Yeah, that to me is softly prepping the fan base for a trade. Reddick coming out saying I flat out want to be here and love it here, that makes me think this is our front office starting the process. 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

You and I are on the same wavelength on this. it is to find a top 10 pass rusher in the league in the middle of his prime. We were fortunate he was out there in free agency. Cause that’s not always the case. I get he’s going to be 30 but people are acting like he’s just gonna fall off a cliff at 31 or 32. There’s pass rushers that don’t completely fall off a cliff 30-32. even if you gave him a four-year extension where year 4 you can get out of it and save some cap Space it’s not an awful deal.

I think this comes down to the fact that they don’t wanna have to pay Josh sweat and Hassan Reddick. Because they know they can’t afford both. But I’m not so sure paying Josh sweat over Reddick is a good idea just cause he likely is cheaper and younger.

said  yesterday if the Eagles didn’t view themselves as a Super Bowl contender next year. in a rebuild then I’d say you know what trade him because your building for the future and his long-term future is not there with the Eagles by the time the rebuild was done. But they’re not. They view themselves as a Super Bowl contender. So if you trade Reddick how is that helping you next year? It’s very unlikely you replace him and getting that type of player in 2024. 

I'm not really seeing this draft as some great d-line pass rusher draft either. There's some guys but nothing that really blows me away. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

You and I are on the same wavelength on this. it is to find a top 10 pass rusher in the league in the middle of his prime. We were fortunate he was out there in free agency. Cause that’s not always the case. I get he’s going to be 30 but people are acting like he’s just gonna fall off a cliff at 31 or 32. There’s pass rushers that don’t completely fall off a cliff 30-32. even if you gave him a four-year extension where year 4 you can get out of it and save some cap Space it’s not an awful deal.

I think this comes down to the fact that they don’t wanna have to pay Josh sweat and Hassan Reddick. Because they know they can’t afford both. But I’m not so sure paying Josh sweat over Reddick is a good idea just cause he likely is cheaper and younger.

said  yesterday if the Eagles didn’t view themselves as a Super Bowl contender next year and in a rebuild, then I’d say you know what trade him because your building for the future and his long-term future is not there with the Eagles by the time the rebuild was done. But they’re not. They view themselves as a Super Bowl contender. So if you trade Reddick how is that helping you next year? It’s very unlikely you replace him and getting that type of player in 2024. 

I dont think Sweat gets an elite deal. He might be well paid, but Im not sure we cant retain him.

On the same note, he is the one who is replaceable with another mid-priced free agent, or even a high pick. Replacing Reddick with that is likely a fools errand. Replacing Sweat with that is far more likely to be successful.

His production is above average. Not elite. He can be replaced on the free agent market fairly easily in almost any year. He can even be replaced by the giant DE out of Missouri pretty immediately. I am not really on board with boosting that guys value to round 2, but if you want to ensure you have a direct replacement for Sweat, Id be ok with reaching a bit. 

12 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Frankly, I think this is always come down to the Eagles know they can only afford to pay Josh sweat and Hassan Reddick. And they rather pay Josh sweat because they think it’s gonna be more reasonable and he’s younger. I don’t necessarily think you should pay Josh sweat either.  he was really not good after the first month of the season. And i really worry about his body particularly his knee holding up as he gets older with more were on his body. 

We have to stop talking about these defensive players and their value after the disaster that was last season. Literally zero players looked good for the majority of the season on defense. I wouldn’t blame or devalue the individual, moreso whoever was coaching them and putting them in awful situations over and over

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

And I never heard of a player giving back bonus money, so who knows if that’s even an option. I only heard of teams taking it back due to contract violations. Even if it is possible, it’s so unlikely. It wouldn’t surprise me if the NFLPA would fight against it.

The most high-profile case of this was Calvin Johnson. He retired before the end of his contract, so the Lions went after his signing bonuses on a pro-rated basis. Then Johnson then told every player not to sign or extend in Detroit because they were cheap. 

We could do the same with Kelce (we won't).

1 minute ago, greendestiny27 said:

Yeah, that to me is softly prepping the fan base for a trade. Reddick coming out saying I flat out want to be here and love it here, that makes me think this is our front office starting the process. 

I see what you're saying. Makes sense. 

Pass rusher free agent , I think isn’t getting the hype he should , Bryce Huff , only 25 and brings the pressure 

41 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Early predictions!!!  What position do we draft in round 1 and best guess at player?  Annnnnnnnnnd go!!!!

Taliese Fuaga

Reddick may not have asked the organization, but did his agent?

Wouldnt the Eagles, or Reddick himself, come out fairly quickly and squash the rumors yesterday? Just like they did with the stupid WIP trade AJ Brown poll…

19 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Trade Sweat, keep Reddick.

Fine. But we have to trade one of them. Can't sign both.

19 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

We have to stop talking about these defensive players and their value after the disaster that was last season. Literally zero players looked good for the majority of the season on defense. I wouldn’t blame or devalue the individual 

Just saying Josh sweat statistically was similar to his 2021 season (sack wise). His outlier year in his career so far was 2022. He hasn’t had anything sack wise close to 2022.excluding his rookie year he’s had 4 sacks, 6 sacks, 7.5 sacks, 11 sacks and 6 sacks. His pressure in 2019-2021 are likely what you are gonna get when you pay him. He’s likely going to be a 6-8 sack type of player most years and occasionally a season with an uptick.  he’s proven more frequently to be that than basing his value off 2022 performance. 

I do like that he wants to stay. Trading an elite player that wants to be here is up there in the bad vibes scale with hiring and promoting Matt Patricia.

2 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Reddick may not have asked the organization, but did his agent?

Wouldnt the Eagles, or Reddick himself, come out fairly quickly and squash the rumors yesterday? Just like they did with the stupid WIP trade AJ Brown poll…

Asking to seek a trade in order to find out what other teams would be willing to pay him on an extension is different than actually wanting to be traded.

He may have requested permission while still not actually asking/wanting to be traded.

2 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Reddick may not have asked the organization, but did his agent?

Wouldnt the Eagles, or Reddick himself, come out fairly quickly and squash the rumors yesterday? Just like they did with the stupid WIP trade AJ Brown poll…

Why would Howie squash the truth?

We all know him, he’s not making a pass rush specialist in his 30’s the second highest paid guy on the team 

54 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Early predictions!!!  What position do we draft in round 1 and best guess at player?  Annnnnnnnnnd go!!!!

Best player available