40 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The DH has ruined baseball.

DH has made the game better. There's still not enough offense in baseball

15 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Jackson is pretty washed. If he’s signed he’s probably going to start so if they sign him that’s a pretty bad sign for things to come. They need to actually fix this back 7 and stop using half measure moves to try and patch it together. Jackson would just be Byard redux. Go out, pay money to get someone good, and actually fix it.

And he is 30 years old.  Don't want 30(+) year olds signed in FA to be starters.  Gotta stop that.

3 hours ago, RLC said:

DH has made the game better. There's still not enough offense in baseball

The strategy of the pinch hitter, the pinch runner, the double switch was one of the best things about a close baseball game

32 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Day 3 power bank with some serious giddy up , Issac Guerrendo , low miles too

 

yep. good pass catcher too. I think a former WR. He can do it all.

10 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yep. good pass catcher too. I think a former WR. He can do it all.

Yards after contact is better than 4.0

27 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

And he is 30 years old.  Don't want 30(+) year olds signed in FA to be starters.  Gotta stop that.

I do not want 30 year old Jackson either, but if we can get a 30 year old Justin Simmons, I do feel differently abut him. I think he can give you two more strong years and help relay Fangio's messages on the field. I can see that working out and making sense. Not sure of his cost nor if he will be available however. On the younger side, any one of Kamren Curl, Xavier McKinney, Kyle Dugger would be a good way to start the building process in the back 7 too. I think I lean towards going younger, but Simmons might be the best player right now out of this bunch and the Fangio familiararity is there. He does make a pretty penny too so not sure what can be done there. 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

To me, the blocked PAT was 100% on the kicker.  Super low trajectory, that execution by the player (or perhaps a bad snap or poor hold).  It wasn't an issue with the blocking scheme.   There's only so much a ST coach can do.   He can't snap the ball, hold the ball or kick the ball.  He can design the blocking scheme.   That wasn't on him.  Nor was the muffed punt, it was poor execution by the guy who didn't clear out on the punt.  

I look at it this way. Their special teams weren’t good all year. They were bottom 10 in the league even prior to the Super Bowl game. Dvoa they finished 25th which was higher than it was at the time of the eagles game. They were in the bottom 5 at that point. In 3 of the 5 niners losses this year special teams played a significant role in why they lost the game. Frankly Wilks got fired and the niners defense most of the year wasn’t an issue. Frankly before overtime the chiefs had 12 offensive possessions and scored a TD on 1 of them and that was cause of the fumble. Can say poor execution but clearing out is also on the coaches ingraining that and guys knowing what to do in the situation. I’d add also on their returner for trying to pick it up instead of just falling on it.

to me their entire year of poor special teams warrants being fired more than Wilks did.  

Random thought. Signing Curtis Samuel could be an interesting, under the radar move that could add a spark to the offense. 

53 minutes ago, RLC said:

DH has made the game better. There's still not enough offense in baseball

Yeah, I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with that... vehemently.   The DH removed about 90% of the strategy of the game with how to deal with your pitcher while also trying to generate runs.   

 

Disinterest due to the lack of offense is a sign of the society we have become where we don't enjoy the artistry of the game, but only the fireworks.  It's a shame.

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I look at it this way. Their special teams weren’t good all year. They were bottom 10 in the league even prior to the Super Bowl game. Dvoa they finished 25th which was higher than it was at the time of the eagles game. They were in the bottom 5 at that point. In 3 of the 5 niners losses this year special teams played a significant role in why they lost the game. Frankly Wilks got fired and the niners defense most of the year wasn’t an issue. Frankly before overtime the chiefs had 12 offensive possessions and scored a TD on 1 of them and that was cause of the fumble. Can say poor execution but clearing out is also on the coaches ingraining that and guys knowing what to do in the situation. I’d add also on their returner for trying to pick it up instead of just falling on it.

to me their entire year of poor special teams warrants being fired more than Wilks did.  

I agree.  But, the fine detail argument of what happened in the Super Bowl doesn't fit that narrative.  If they'd allowed a big return, like our ST did in the Super Bowl, or if they had a horrific return plan with bad blocking schemes, or had they given up a blocked kick due to a weakness in their blocking schemes, that's a whole different argument. 

Ingraining the clear out as part of the process absolutely does fall on coaching, but at the same time, it also falls on the players to execute it.  That was a single rogue player.  Did the player just screw up when the bright lights came on, or because he wasn't coached properly?   Hard to be definitive one way or the other, without a deeper dive into those situations throughout the year.   Was this the first/only time this particular player was that careless, or was it a theme of the season?   I don't know.   The aggregate stats of the ST over the year is a far better reason than just the one game.  Besides, generally, players and coaches really shouldn't be judged on just a single performance.

 

I agree with your conclusion, just not with how you supported it.

37 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

The strategy of the pinch hitter, the pinch runner, the double switch was one of the best thing about a close baseball game

Exactly.

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yeah, I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with that... vehemently.   The DH removed about 90% of the strategy of the game with how to deal with your pitcher while also trying to generate runs.   

 

Disinterest due to the lack of offense is a sign of the society we have become where we don't enjoy the artistry of the game, but only the fireworks.  It's a shame.

I'm not against the strategy of baseball, but there are simply not enough position players in the regular season to make that interesting.

Whitehead, Jefferson and Lawson are all intriguing. Whitehead is a younger, better option than Eddie Jackson who could be more than a band-aid. Jefferson could be a great veteran presence on the DL who is 3 years younger than Cox and wouldn't cost nearly as much. Not sure if Lawson was hurt all of 2023 but he could be a cheap option for DE depth. 

None of these guys are taking the Eagles over the top but all 3 offer low risk, inexpensive depth opportunities and don't effect the comp pick game. 

Whitehead should be seriously considered though.

1 hour ago, RLC said:

DH has made the game better. There's still not enough offense in baseball

That’s a popular sentiment- to me styles make fights and baseball, basketball and increasingly football seem homogeneous in this regard. 

This thread was actually pretty funny

 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

This thread was actually pretty funny

 

That site is pretty funny.  Started following it after you posted some of their tweets. 

20 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

That’s a popular sentiment- to me styles make fights and baseball, basketball and increasingly football seem homogeneous in this regard. 

This is the analytics "problem".

Teams search for the most efficient way to win, and that leads them all to playing more similarly.

50 minutes ago, QuinnWR4 said:

Random thought. Signing Curtis Samuel could be an interesting, under the radar move that could add a spark to the offense. 

Would he want to come here to be the third option? 

7 minutes ago, RLC said:

This is the analytics "problem".

Teams search for the most efficient way to win, and that leads them all to playing more similarly.

This has always been true in other types of competitions though. It's called a meta, or metagame, and sports had been spared it for some time. Not any longer though, that's what championship fixation and increasingly smaller amounts of patience by fanbases get you.

2 minutes ago, devpool said:

Would he want to come here to be the third option? 

Good question, but I feel like that’s what he’s been most of his career. 

DH or no DH (and having DHs in the NL is good), I’m just happy both leagues play by the same rules. It never made any sense to do that. 

21 minutes ago, RLC said:

This is the analytics "problem".

Teams search for the most efficient way to win, and that leads them all to playing more similarly.

Absolutely - but the leagues do things as well to foster offense that preclude other strategies to winning.

1 hour ago, greendestiny27 said:

I do not want 30 year old Jackson either, but if we can get a 30 year old Justin Simmons, I do feel differently abut him. I think he can give you two more strong years and help relay Fangio's messages on the field. I can see that working out and making sense. Not sure of his cost nor if he will be available however. On the younger side, any one of Kamren Curl, Xavier McKinney, Kyle Dugger would be a good way to start the building process in the back 7 too. I think I lean towards going younger, but Simmons might be the best player right now out of this bunch and the Fangio familiararity is there. He does make a pretty penny too so not sure what can be done there. 

I’m passing on Simmons. He’s Denver’s Reddick, a guy who’s 30 on the last year of his deal and wants one last mega deal. Plus you probably have to trade one of your 2’s to get him. That’s too much. 

I’m not big on Jackson either but he played under Fangio too and can relay the message at a fraction of the cost and not hinder future years. Ideally they just go younger at the position.

12 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

DH or no DH (and having DHs in the NL is good), I’m just happy both leagues play by the same rules. It never made any sense to do that. 

The different fields make no sense either 

1 hour ago, QuinnWR4 said:

Random thought. Signing Curtis Samuel could be an interesting, under the radar move that could add a spark to the offense. 

I think he’s a really good slot WR but will probably cost way too much. I think the Eagles will probably sign Cedric Wilson and then draft a guy in the 3-5th rounds.