6 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

I wouldn’t blame the position coach for almost all of that. I’m not sure you know how football works based on hire you value or devalue a position coach. 
 

Having OPI’s might have to do with the high volume of WR screens and attempted rub routes to scheme people open instead of actually using route combinations to attack certain defenses. I couldn’t find a measurable start to prove or disprove this theory you have that we’re "constantly” flagged. 
 

Scramble Drills are busted/broken plays we’d have to watch the tape to truly breakdown this theory. A scrambling QB is unpredictable and if he’s pressure is away from route progression, it’s not as simple as just becoming open. We win games because of their ability to adjust in these situations. Check the Bills game and so many situations in 2022-2023. Maybe you have a clouded memory of the offense liking so poor this previous season, and compounded and letting certain things there overflow and cloud your judgment.

We’d also have to check on "WRs not being able to sub properly” I’m not sure how you’re defining this or proving that it’s an anomaly specifically for the Eagles WRs, and why that would be the WR coach’s fault.
 

"Running to the same part of the field all of the time” well in 2 of the seasons under Siri the eagles have had the lowest targets to the middle of the field, and have some a horrible job utilizing the spacing of the field. So having a high passing plays that are often to the least spacious part of the field could contribute to feeling congested. Also, again no way to really prove this is a Philly specific issue regarding their WR coach. 
 

If we want to blame every issue we can blame WRs for, we have to also do the opposite, no matter how lazy the argument. 

In back to back seasons we have 2 WRs over 1k yards.

A.J Brown has had the most yards of his career in the past two seasons under this coach.

He was personally responsible for AJ Brown having games in a row over 125 yards receiving in each game.

I think we’d all agree the offensive play design and calling this past season was horrendous, embarrassing, and elementary. Yet we had a top 5 and top 20 receiving yards player in the NFL.

Eagles were tied for the 3rd least amount of dropped passes in the NFL.

The Eagles WRs have also made incredible catches with high degree of difficulty. 
 

Eagles WRs have an unselfish willingness to block and are asked to do so heavily because they’re so good at it. Eagles WR group is so good under this coach, that we refuse to run the ball consistent and ignore the HB in the passing game lol. 

I have no idea how football works. Thanks for the word salad.

Still waiting for what Moorehead has actually done besides "the guy they traded a 1st and 3rd round pick for is good”. 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I have no idea how football works. Thanks for the word salad.

Thanks for not having any competent response when you see more than a half of a paragraph.

1 minute ago, GoEagles614 said:

Thanks for not having any competent response when you see more than a half of a paragraph.

I usually stop reading when the second sentence is a personal attack because that’s your strongest response. 

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I have no idea how football works. Thanks for the word salad.

Still waiting for what Moorehead has actually done besides "the guy they traded a 1st and 3rd round pick for is good”. 

 the guy who won a heisman was also good lol 

12 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

I wouldn’t blame the position coach for almost all of that. I’m not sure you know how football works based on hire you value or devalue a position coach. 
 

Having OPI’s might have to do with the high volume of WR screens and attempted rub routes to scheme people open instead of actually using route combinations to attack certain defenses. I couldn’t find a measurable start to prove or disprove this theory you have that we’re "constantly” flagged. 
 

Scramble Drills are busted/broken plays we’d have to watch the tape to truly breakdown this theory. A scrambling QB is unpredictable and if he’s pressure is away from route progression, it’s not as simple as just becoming open. We win games because of their ability to adjust in these situations. Check the Bills game and so many situations in 2022-2023. Maybe you have a clouded memory of the offense liking so poor this previous season, and compounded and letting certain things there overflow and cloud your judgment.

We’d also have to check on "WRs not being able to sub properly” I’m not sure how you’re defining this or proving that it’s an anomaly specifically for the Eagles WRs, and why that would be the WR coach’s fault.
 

"Running to the same part of the field all of the time” well in 2 of the seasons under Siri the eagles have had the lowest targets to the middle of the field, and have some a horrible job utilizing the spacing of the field. So having a high passing plays that are often to the least spacious part of the field could contribute to feeling congested. Also, again no way to really prove this is a Philly specific issue regarding their WR coach. 
 

If we want to blame every issue we can blame WRs for, we have to also do the opposite, no matter how lazy the argument. 

In back to back seasons we have 2 WRs over 1k yards.

A.J Brown has had the most yards of his career in the past two seasons under this coach.

He was personally responsible for AJ Brown having games in a row over 125 yards receiving in each game.

I think we’d all agree the offensive play design and calling this past season was horrendous, embarrassing, and elementary. Yet we had a top 5 and top 20 receiving yards player in the NFL.

Eagles were tied for the 3rd least amount of dropped passes in the NFL.

The Eagles WRs have also made incredible catches with high degree of difficulty. 
 

Eagles WRs have an unselfish willingness to block and are asked to do so heavily because they’re so good at it. Eagles WR group is so good under this coach, that we refuse to run the ball consistent and ignore the HB in the passing game lol. 

Aaron Moorehead is awesome because the Eagles traded a 1st and 3rd round pick for a WR who turned out good. Thanks Aaron. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 the guy who won a heisman was also good lol 

Whoa. 

20 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

Eagles WRs have an unselfish willingness to block and are asked to do so heavily because they’re so good at it. 

Yea. So good.

20 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yea. So good.

AJ Brown blocks like he weighs 122 lbs 

43 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

I wouldn’t blame the position coach for almost all of that. I’m not sure you know how football works based on hire you value or devalue a position coach. 
 

Having OPI’s might have to do with the high volume of WR screens and attempted rub routes to scheme people open instead of actually using route combinations to attack certain defenses. I couldn’t find a measurable start to prove or disprove this theory you have that we’re "constantly” flagged. 
 

Scramble Drills are busted/broken plays we’d have to watch the tape to truly breakdown this theory. A scrambling QB is unpredictable and if he’s pressure is away from route progression, it’s not as simple as just becoming open. We win games because of their ability to adjust in these situations. Check the Bills game and so many situations in 2022-2023. Maybe you have a clouded memory of the offense liking so poor this previous season, and compounded and letting certain things there overflow and cloud your judgment.

We’d also have to check on "WRs not being able to sub properly” I’m not sure how you’re defining this or proving that it’s an anomaly specifically for the Eagles WRs, and why that would be the WR coach’s fault.
 

"Running to the same part of the field all of the time” well in 2 of the seasons under Siri the eagles have had the lowest targets to the middle of the field, and have some a horrible job utilizing the spacing of the field. So having a high passing plays that are often to the least spacious part of the field could contribute to feeling congested. Also, again no way to really prove this is a Philly specific issue regarding their WR coach. 
 

If we want to blame every issue we can blame WRs for, we have to also do the opposite, no matter how lazy the argument. 

In back to back seasons we have 2 WRs over 1k yards.

A.J Brown has had the most yards of his career in the past two seasons under this coach.

He was personally responsible for AJ Brown having games in a row over 125 yards receiving in each game.

I think we’d all agree the offensive play design and calling this past season was horrendous, embarrassing, and elementary. Yet we had a top 5 and top 20 receiving yards player in the NFL.

Eagles were tied for the 3rd least amount of dropped passes in the NFL.

The Eagles WRs have also made incredible catches with high degree of difficulty. 
 

Eagles WRs have an unselfish willingness to block and are asked to do so heavily because they’re so good at it. Eagles WR group is so good under this coach, that we refuse to run the ball consistent and ignore the HB in the passing game lol. 

Found Coach Moorehead. 

WR coach is blamed for failed scramble drills. After 3 seconds route progression means nothing, he clearly isn't teaching them to look at the QB and work their way back because they never do 

If you're gonna credit him for AJs 6 games of 125 yards then you have to blame him for AJ complete falling off a cliff after those 6 games. 

The most damning thing is that the guy has been here in the same position for 5 years, if he's so great why aren't other teams trying to hire him?

18 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

AJ Brown blocks like he weighs 122 lbs 

Meanwhile Smith is the lead blocker for all those awesome screens we ran. Julio, Quez and OZ were all phenomenal blocking. And, uh, Covey? Yea, sure, whatever. Awesome, willing and able. Thank you Moorehead.

5 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Aaron Moorehead is awesome because the Eagles traded a 1st and 3rd round pick for a WR who turned out good. Thanks Aaron. 

Now you're getting it. 

Aaron Moorehead was the guy behind the AJ Brown trade, clearly. He's so good maybe he can take over as GM!

31 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Now you're getting it. 

Aaron Moorehead was the guy behind the AJ Brown trade, clearly. He's so good maybe he can take over as GM!

With Moorehead comes more responsibilities...

 

10 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Cool. Now explain why we get flagged constantly on pick plays. Why do the WR’s all suck on scramble drills. Why are the WRs not able to substitute properly or run to the same part of the field all of the time. Better yet, name one thing that actually improved since he’s been here. 

He’s going on year 5 of being the same position coach with no hint of a promotion or outside interviews. Why is that? 

The best thing to happen to Moorehead is Howie drafting a top 10 player and trading for an alpha #1.

Moorehead doesn't add any value. Can't find one example of development. 

Apparently, they did this during the Flyers/Devils game too. Something extremely creepy and weird about it.

 

3 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Apparently, they did this during the Flyers/Devils game too. Something extremely creepy and weird about it.

 

Phew - thought it was going to be mannequins spinning in circles like a rod hockey set… just people acting weird.

10 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I have no idea how football works. Thanks for the word salad.

Still waiting for what Moorehead has actually done besides "the guy they traded a 1st and 3rd round pick for is good”. 

He exposed Reagor and JJ Antigua Barbuda as frauds. 

10 hours ago, devpool said:

Found Coach Moorehead. 

WR coach is blamed for failed scramble drills. After 3 seconds route progression means nothing, he clearly isn't teaching them to look at the QB and work their way back because they never do 

If you're gonna credit him for AJs 6 games of 125 yards then you have to blame him for AJ complete falling off a cliff after those 6 games. 

The most damning thing is that the guy has been here in the same position for 5 years, if he's so great why aren't other teams trying to hire him?

Not defending Moorehead at all because I want him gone but AJ and Devonta are great enough already where they shouldn't have to be taught to look at the QB and work their way back on scramble drills.

The scramble drill stuff should be worked on between Hurts, AJ, Devonta, Goedert and whoever else.  They should have their own kind of chemistry between each other to know what to do when Hurts starts running around. 

I believe this was something Shanahan said…

A lot of times position coaches aren’t necessarily developing guys, that’s up to the players in the offseason when the work out with trainers (speed coaches, footwork coaches, etc) and other players (less OTAs is an issue). Of course they do some developing, but particularly in-season there are points of emphasis, but their jobs are more or less helping to put a game plan together, scouting opponents and funneling that info to the players. 

I like how position coaches not getting new jobs is now the ultimate indictment. Jeff Stoutland must be super ass for having the same job for 30 years. In 9 years he hasn’t become an offensive coordinator and another team hasn’t hired him. OMG he’s awful! 
 

The entire offense fell off a cliff. As well as the defense. The playcalling on both sides was horrendous. I’m not sure I’d complain about the WR coach, especially while we have the same Head Coach that couldn’t win more than 1 game after starting 10-1. But yeah, let’s attack the 50th guy in command haha. 
 

This is the only fan base that complains about everything. Sorry our GM has finally given us talented WRs to work with. Maybe we should go back to drafting and signing bums so we can prove how good our WR coaches are or aren’t. Pffft. Y’all want Arcega Whiteside and Reagor to become stars just because the WR coach? They went elsewhere and suck there too lmao. They’re bums, we’ve poorly drafted at the position. Now we hit one and traded for an elite one, and it’s a problem. 

8 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

I like how position coaches not getting new jobs is now the ultimate indictment. Jeff Stoutland must be super ass for having the same job for 30 years. In 9 years he hasn’t become an offensive coordinator and another team hasn’t hired him. OMG he’s awful! 
 

The entire offense fell off a cliff. As well as the defense. The playcalling on both sides was horrendous. I’m not sure I’d complain about the WR coach, especially while we have the same Head Coach that couldn’t win more than 1 game after starting 10-1. But yeah, let’s attack the 50th guy in command haha. 
 

This is the only fan base that complains about everything. Sorry our GM has finally given us talented WRs to work with. Maybe we should go back to drafting and signing bums so we can prove how good our WR coaches are or aren’t. Pffft. Y’all want Arcega Whiteside and Reagor to become stars just because the WR coach? They went elsewhere and suck there too lmao. They’re bums, we’ve poorly drafted at the position. Now we hit one and traded for an elite one, and it’s a problem. 

Because its a track record of results that matter

stout pretty much defines results. Moorehead pretty much the opposite

23 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

The floor was cool. Pretty amazing what they can do. Im surprised the 6ers havent invested in that tech yet. They were one of the first to adopt the floor projector technology thats used before games. But this seems to be a new system that takes it to a new level.

I didn't watch so I haven't seen the floor you are talking about, so super dumb question:

 

Is it a realistic option for them?  Can that floor work when you have an ice rink below it?  I.E., is it modular enough  to take apart and put back together when they swap out for hockey?  If it is, is it durable enough to switch in and out.  And from a timing perspective, can it be assembled\disassembled fast enough?  

 

Edit: Looks like that arena does do ice hockey despite Indianapolis not having a professional team.  So maybe?

37 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I believe this was something Shanahan said…

A lot of times position coaches aren’t necessarily developing guys, that’s up to the players in the offseason when the work out with trainers (speed coaches, footwork coaches, etc) and other players (less OTAs is an issue). Of course they do some developing, but particularly in-season there are points of emphasis, but their jobs are more or less helping to put a game plan together, scouting opponents and funneling that info to the players. 

That's the fault of the new CBA rules.   And it's nonsense.  Let the players work with anyone they want, learning techniques of their own choosing rather than coordinating with the team?  

 

Just one of many reasons the product isn't as good as it once was.

38 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I believe this was something Shanahan said…

A lot of times position coaches aren’t necessarily developing guys, that’s up to the players in the offseason when the work out with trainers (speed coaches, footwork coaches, etc) and other players (less OTAs is an issue). Of course they do some developing, but particularly in-season there are points of emphasis, but their jobs are more or less helping to put a game plan together, scouting opponents and funneling that info to the players. 

I think there's some correlation between player success and position coaches.  

17 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

I like how position coaches not getting new jobs is now the ultimate indictment. Jeff Stoutland must be super ass for having the same job for 30 years. In 9 years he hasn’t become an offensive coordinator and another team hasn’t hired him. OMG he’s awful! 
 

The entire offense fell off a cliff. As well as the defense. The playcalling on both sides was horrendous. I’m not sure I’d complain about the WR coach, especially while we have the same Head Coach that couldn’t win more than 1 game after starting 10-1. But yeah, let’s attack the 50th guy in command haha. 
 

This is the only fan base that complains about everything. Sorry our GM has finally given us talented WRs to work with. Maybe we should go back to drafting and signing bums so we can prove how good our WR coaches are or aren’t. Pffft. Y’all want Arcega Whiteside and Reagor to become stars just because the WR coach? They went elsewhere and suck there too lmao. They’re bums, we’ve poorly drafted at the position. Now we hit one and traded for an elite one, and it’s a problem. 

We complain about everthing including other fans.  

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's the fault of the new CBA rules.   And it's nonsense.  Let the players work with anyone they want, learning techniques of their own choosing rather than coordinating with the team?  

 

Just one of many reasons the product isn't as good as it once was.

It's not like the CBA agreement popped out of thin air and foisted onto the players.  The players negotiated not working with coaches in the offseason.