5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

This is more process of elimination vs him hearing anything fwiw. He took out all the NFCE games then took out Panthers and Jags since they have other international games in 2024.

That leaves Steelers, Packers, Atlanta and Cleveland but his reasoning isn't as good.. He thinks it won't be Steelers because they come to Philly once every 8 years (which isn't entirely true anymore) and took out Packers just because for no reason other than "it would be a good game for Philly to host". Atlanta he says might not be good enough for a Week 1 international game, which I don't agree that necessarily eliminates them, which leaves Cleveland. 

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

What the hell was going on in the NBA All-Star Game?

102-89 in the first half?

 

Just like the Pro Bowl, the All Star game will be gone in a year or 2.

Just now, NCiggles said:

What GM is out there actually doing player evaluations? Howie is committed to position value in the draft.  He also has a keen sense of who other teams value.  I tend to think the misses have been more on the scouting staff or coaches than him.  

I've touched on this a few times but for some reason the Eagles/Howie seem to think there is more value in loading up 5th-7th rounders instead of 1st-4th. Almost every year, the Eagles go multiple rounds without a pick. The 3rd and 4tth round is where draft experts always say you build the core of your team. You're supposed to find your Pro Bowlers and studs in the 1st round and high end starters in the 2nd. You've got to hit on round 3 and 4 to fill in your roster. 5-7 should be depth/hidden gems/wild card picks. 

Since 2017, the Eagles 3rd and 4th rounds have brought them:

Rasul Douglas, Mack Hollins, Donnell Pumphrey, Avonte Maddox, Josh Sweat, Shareef Miller, Davion Taylor, K'Von Wallace, Jack Driscoll, Milton Williams, Zech McPhearson, Nakobe Dean, Tyler Steen, Sydney Brown and Kelee Ringo.

Last years draft is huge. If they have a RG, S and CB2 from round 3, I'd be thrilled. It's half the reason I'm ready for Kelce to hang it up. They need to see what they have in Steen and they never will if he's just OL6.

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

TIFWIW 

 

 

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

This is more process of elimination vs him hearing anything fwiw. He took out all the NFCE games then took out Panthers and Jags since they have other international games in 2024.

That leaves Steelers, Packers, Atlanta and Cleveland but his reasoning isn't as good.. He thinks it won't be Steelers because they come to Philly once every 8 years (which isn't entirely true anymore) and took out Packers just because for no reason other than "it would be a good game for Philly to host". Atlanta he says might not be good enough for a Week 1 international game, which I don't agree that necessarily eliminates them, which leaves Cleveland. 

Would’ve been more compelling if he said Jim Schwartz revenge game 

1 minute ago, Iggles25 said:

 

Don't you dare get our hopes up

15 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

TIFWIW 

 

Yay

14 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Don't you dare get our hopes up

24 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

This is more process of elimination vs him hearing anything fwiw. He took out all the NFCE games then took out Panthers and Jags since they have other international games in 2024.

That leaves Steelers, Packers, Atlanta and Cleveland but his reasoning isn't as good.. He thinks it won't be Steelers because they come to Philly once every 8 years (which isn't entirely true anymore) and took out Packers just because for no reason other than "it would be a good game for Philly to host". Atlanta he says might not be good enough for a Week 1 international game, which I don't agree that necessarily eliminates them, which leaves Cleveland. 

The Steelers haven't had an international game for awhile.  Maybe they don't think Steelers fans will be able to travel internationally.  

Yowza

 

The guy we sham interviewed for OC last year. 

54 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

TIFWIW 

 

A sham so Howie can say they did their due diligence 

13 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Yowza

 

Howie is validated again. Kicking the can always seems to work.

12 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Yowza

 

21 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Yowza

 

 

1 hour ago, 315Eagles said:

Just like the Pro Bowl, the All Star game will be gone in a year or 2.

They’ve scored 150+ since the 70s lmao. Idk why people are so shocked. Like what defense are you going to run versus the best offensive players in the association? There’s no team defense to be coached. You’re not running offensive sets lol. It’s playground basketball with guys who have the 2nd half of the season to be ready for. 
 

Any All-Star team from the last 24 year would dog walk any other combination of teams before them if it was true competition lol. These dudes play year round from like 5 years old. Their offensive bag is way deeper than anything we saw in the 80s and mid 90s. It’s expected they’ll score more you have dudes hitting half court shots like it’s nothing. What’re you gonna do a full court press? Lol 

 

The association is already implementing terrible 65 game minimums rules for awards which aren’t necessary. Dudes want it to be the 80s and 90s so bad, when there were 4 guys in the league playing against a bunch of bums would could shoot or dribble with their left hand lol 

And no defense wasn’t better then, they just had less space becusse everyone sat in the paint with 2 ogres waiting to contest drives. Shooting opened up the floor and eliminated any chance you have at defense being great. 

2 hours ago, Cliftoma said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/salary-cap-is-poised-to-be-as-much-as-243-million-per-team-and-maybe-higher

One of his sources says maybe closer $250 million

 

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Yowza

 

For context because these Twitter accounts like to exaggerate. One person said $250. OTC has it at $242M

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

TIFWIW 

 

At pick #22?  He’s not gonna be on the board anywhere near 50, I wouldn’t think.

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

At pick #22?  He’s not gonna be on the board anywhere near 50, I wouldn’t think.

Thought about that too.

Maybe a trade down or two into late RD1 or early RD2?

Think he's stil there 25-35 range.

6 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Seumalo too

can anyone give me one example of a wr that developed here? Just one

Obviously you mean during Moorehead's stint.

While. it's JMO, I believe Quez developed here. He may not be a great fit as a slot, but when he's on the outside he plays well enough that I think we'll see some team give him a shot in free agency this season. In the right offense, I think he can be a solid #2. In 2020, as pointed out, Fulgham came out of nowhere to fill in because of injuries and the coaches had him prepared. Sure, people have reasonable arguments against Quez and I understand. So that leaves us with JJAW, Reagor, and Smith (and Hightower). JJAW, Reagor and Hightower all failed everywhere else to date, so I'd chalk that up to the player, not the coaching. Smith has met (my) expectations and surpassed those of doubters that questioned his build at the NFL level. I'd argue that the coaching has not failed him at all. Brown has been here 2 years and had his 2 best seasons. Once again, I'd argue that the coaching hasn't failed him. 

Also, keep in mind that Sirianni's background is mainly WR, so there may be a dynamic where the two are on the same page as coaches and Nick believes Moorehead is the best person for the job still. 

I just don't see why fans seem unhappy with Moorehead returning. They don't "know" what he has done well, but just assume that means he must not be doing anything well. 

1 minute ago, Iggles25 said:

Thought about that too.

Maybe a trade down or two into late RD1 or early RD2?

Think he's stil there 25-35 range.

There are still teams that value off ball linebackers.  Most drafts there’s one gone in the top 20; even Jack Campbell went #18 last year and I don’t really see the appeal with him.

They read the blog. Players that need to develop and improve. 

 

1 hour ago, judunno said:

Howie is validated again. Kicking the can always seems to work.

of course it works. Its not an accident that Howie does it and gets away with it. He knows it works. Thats why he does it. Other GMs do it too. 

4 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

. Not true. 

Lane was a freak athlete, but he was very very far from a finished product at OT.  Remember, he didn't start playing OT until his 3rd year at college.  He entered junior college as a quarterback and tight end (2008).  Then, transferred to Oklahoma, as a quarterback and tight end on their practice squad (aka, red shirt in 2009).  He moved to just TE in 2010.  Then he transitioned to defensive end the next spring (2011), and moved to OL as a result of a lot of injuries that year for Oklahoma.  And then he finished his collegiate career in 2012 at OT.  The idea that he was a finished product is laughable.  He was extremely RAW, but also extremely athletic.  

Brooks was an average OG in Houston.  If he was viewed as the stud he became under Stout, he'd never have hit the free agent market for the Eagles to sign them.  Yes, he was an NFL quality OG, he was not the guy he transitioned to here, which was the best OG in the game.

Dillard was a guy that the team never vetted... that's on the scouting report for not doing their due diligence, and then drafting him anyway.  Meanwhile, you conveniently ignore Mailata (ultimate lottery ticket 7th rounder who had never played football), Big V (5th round pick who'd never run blocked or even lined up in a 3 point stance in college), and Seumalo (3rd round pick).

 

 

 

First, I didn't ignore Mailata. The subject was on guys with high expectations when they arrived here. So Mailata wasn't on the list of "exclusions" that we were making. Lane Johnson was an elite OT prospect when he entered the draft (8.69 grade). He destroyed the combine after 2 seasons at OT where he got better and better. Smith had a 7.13 grade --- much lower than Lane had as a draft prospect. Nobody out of college is "a finished product." Why is that even being brought up?

Brooks had his best seasons with us. I wonder if playing between Kelce and Lane had anything to do with that ...

 

It's crazy to try to fault Moorehead for getting the most out of Brown and Smith the last 2 years.

 

4 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yup.  The team couldn't possibly make a mistake.  Every decision they make is the correct one.  

How many of us thought keeping Clay was a mistake after his first couple seasons? Sometimes fans are wrong too. Probably not you, though.