7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

of course it works. Its not an accident that Howie does it and gets away with it. He knows it works. Thats why he does it. Other GMs do it too. 

Some folks around here don't seem to get that and have anxiety about it for whatever reason. Howie has the cap game down.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Yowza

 

Thanks, swifties.

I saw a projection of somewhere around 40M for the eagles a few weeks ago. Obviously a chunk of that should go to a Reddick or sweat extension, Dickerson, and DeVonta Smith, and then free agency.

With the news of the cap bump, now whats the number gonna be?

If Howie has 60M hes gonna do dome serious damage to the league next year.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

I saw a projection of somewhere around 40M for the eagles a few weeks ago. Obviously a chunk of that should go to a Reddick or sweat extension, Dickerson, and DeVonta Smith, and then free agency.

With the news of the cap bump, now whats the number gonna be?

If Howie has 60M hes gonna do dome serious damage to the league next year.

It’s not going to be that much. OTC has them right now at $19M, and they are using a projected cap of $242M. Cutting Byard gives them $13M more. If the cap ends up being $250M that puts them right at $40M in space. 

Reddick could also be restructured/extended which would open up around $10M. So kinda depends what happens with him. 

They don’t have much flexibility with anyone else besides those two guys though. I’m sure Howie will want about a $5M to $10M cushion heading into the regular season for signings. Also have to factor in the rookies. 

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It’s not going to be that much. OTC has them right now at $19M, and they are using a projected cap of $242M. Cutting Byard gives them $13M more. If the cap ends up being $250M that puts them right at $40M in space. 

Reddick could also be restructured/extended which would open up around $10M. So kinda depends what happens with him. 

They don’t have much flexibility with anyone else besides those two guys though. I’m sure Howie will want about a $5M to $10M cushion heading into the regular season for signings. Also have to factor in the rookies. 

They should re-structure Reddick. Its the right move. And that it would open more space makes it even better.

40M is a nice chunk Howie can do a lot with. If it was 50 or 60 that coulda been epic. 

One thing in regards to Reddick, when the Eagles did the same tactic with Slay and Cox, those deals came together quickly. Slay was 24 hours, Cox was similar, maybe 48 hours. Reddick has been a week now with no new update. 

Not sure if it means anything one way or the other besides this is a little bit more trickier than other times. I think we’ll hear more once the combine starts next week. 

9 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

They should re-structure Reddick. Its the right move. And that it would open more space makes it even better.

40M is a nice chunk Howie can do a lot with. If it was 50 or 60 that coulda been epic. 

Team is at 224M for top 51

26M in cap space.

Extension for Reddick saves 11m

Cut Byard saves 13M

Cut Maddox saves 7M

Extensions for Smith and Dickerson will save money this year.

We will have 60M or more. Trade Reddick and we have 49M or more. 

5 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

Team is at 224M for top 51

26M in cap space.

Extension for Reddick saves 11m

Cut Byard saves 13M

Cut Maddox saves 7M

Extensions for Smith and Dickerson will save money this year.

We will have 60M or more. Trade Reddick and we have 49M or more. 

This offseason will be wild.

1 hour ago, MillerTime said:

Team is at 224M for top 51

26M in cap space.

Extension for Reddick saves 11m

Cut Byard saves 13M

Cut Maddox saves 7M

Extensions for Smith and Dickerson will save money this year.

We will have 60M or more. Trade Reddick and we have 49M or more. 

Smith and Dickerson extensions won’t save money. 

I did forget about Maddox. So that’s something to watch but would have to be a Post June 1st designation.

I swear some of you think the cap only went up for the Eagles and Howie.

5 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I’ll ding Moorehead for the lack of hot routes, as he was either complicit with the decision or lacked the juice to get a fix done. We didn’t fire Nick, so I guess he shouldn’t be scapegoated as this is a scheme issue.

 

Patullo and Johnson. 

Just now, eagle45 said:

I swear some of you think the cap only went up for the Eagles and Howie.

Howie makes the most of it. We should all know that by now. Give the league 20M is like giving Howie 45M.

5 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Is this a good defense?  This team's Achilles' heel offensively since the retirement of Mike Quick has been the WR position.  We've had flashes with Jackson, a brief foray with Maclin, the TO debacle, and now AJ and Smith.

 

But, the answer to your question is an easy one.  Mike Groh.  Sadly, he didn't stay at WR coach and got promoted quickly to OC due to the changes that happened after the Super Bowl.   And weirdly, Mike Groh's time here as WR matches perfectly with the only Super Bowl.   One year at WR coach... and that just happened to be the ONE year that Nelson Agholor wasn't actually a gigantic disappointment.

Groh might be the only answer to my question.  Not a bad response.   Not really defending Moorehead as much as condemning the turnstile fillers at that position.  

4 hours ago, NCiggles said:

Achilles heel since Mike Quick might be hyperbole.  The last period of sustained success was under Reid. I do think you have to give Moorehead some credit for Devonta and AJ. He even got one ggod season out of Watkins. I am not sure what Groh did that was any better.  Groh never had a WR as successful as Moorehead has had. 

Exactly why are we giving Moorehead credit for AJ?   AJ came in as a Pro Bowl level WR, and went from 75 ypg up to a whopping 86 ypg.   Massive upgrade.   Brown's primary improvement has been in his health.   I give credit to the strength and conditioning people.

Groh had a broken down Jeffrey, an over the hill Torrey Smith, and everyone's favorite whipping boy before Reagor, Nelson Agholor.   

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Exactly why are we giving Moorehead credit for AJ?   AJ came in as a Pro Bowl level WR, and went from 75 ypg up to a whopping 86 ypg.   Massive upgrade.   Brown's primary improvement has been in his health.   I give credit to the strength and conditioning people.

Groh had a broken down Jeffrey, an over the hill Torrey Smith, and everyone's favorite whipping boy before Reagor, Nelson Agholor.   

Yep. We handed Brown a $100M extension before he even shook hands with Moorehead. 

1 hour ago, brkmsn said:

How many of us thought keeping Clay was a mistake after his first couple seasons? Sometimes fans are wrong too. Probably not you, though. 

Obviously.   Your argument was that the team made the decision to keep him around.  So, he must be good.   That's a terrible argument.  

21 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Howie makes the most of it. We should all know that by now. Give the league 20M is like giving Howie 45M.

Does he?  What did he make at LB and S last year?    It wasn't chicken salad.

42 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

Team is at 224M for top 51

26M in cap space.

Extension for Reddick saves 11m

Cut Byard saves 13M

Cut Maddox saves 7M

Extensions for Smith and Dickerson will save money this year.

We will have 60M or more. Trade Reddick and we have 49M or more. 

Post June 1 cut for Bradbury we get more as well I think. 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Does he?  What did he make at LB and S last year?    It wasn't chicken salad.

Sydney Brown, Ghost, Evans, Edmunds, and Byard. 
 

Dean, Morrow, Cunningham, and Shaq Leonard. 
 

If these were the groups in the Pre-Season people would’ve celebrated.
 

Unfortunately it’s hard to gauge where we are at those positions since the entire defense was mismanaged and the coaching staff in both sides refused to make logical adjustments. 

9 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

Post June 1 cut for Bradbury we get more as well I think. 

It doesn’t. Howie set up his contract to have a 10M dead cap in 2025. Cutting him post June 1st saves 0 and just accelerates that dead cap for 2025. That’s gonna happen regardless so he might as well be on the roster. Depending on the moves we make Howie may decide to just take the cap hit this year and free up 10M for 2025.

48 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

Team is at 224M for top 51

26M in cap space.

Extension for Reddick saves 11m

Cut Byard saves 13M

Cut Maddox saves 7M

Extensions for Smith and Dickerson will save money this year.

We will have 60M or more. Trade Reddick and we have 49M or more. 

I think a portion of cap space will need to be allocated to be carried forward. If the likes Kelce and Cox aren't back and Bradberry is cut as a post Jun designation this year, there's going to be massive dead cap space number for 2025. They will need to carry some over at least partially off-set some of that.

1 minute ago, GoEagles614 said:

Sydney Brown, Ghost, Evans, Edmunds, and Byard. 
 

Dean, Morrow, Cunningham, and Shaq Leonard. 
 

If these were the groups in the Pre-Season people would’ve celebrated.
 

Unfortunately it’s hard to gauge where we are at those positions since the entire defense was mismanaged and the coaching staff in both sides refused to make logical adjustments. 

Are you trying to gaslight us?  Howie went shopping in the bargain bin.  

Morrow was a guy that few people were excited about.   Then the LBs looked so bad in TC they brought in two street free agents to try to improve the position, with old or broken down LBs in Cunningham and Jack.  Then, when Jack asked to go elsewhere, they went the deeper desperation route with Leonard.  

In what world is turning the safety position over to rookie Sydney Brown, 2nd year UDFA Blankenship and some cheap retreads was a good solution?  People were talking about how ridiculous it was that Blankenship didn't even dress for PS games and was just handed the starting job.  And then they went out and traded for Byard, because the safety position was so bad.... and newsflash, Howie's in season trades have pretty much all fallen flat, with the only notable exception of Jay Ajayi.  

 

Howie went low ball options at LB and S, because he HAD TO, not because he wanted to.   And why did he have to?  Because he painted himself into a corner with some contracts he'd given out, notably, the ones to the aging, declining Corners.   

3 hours ago, judunno said:

Howie is validated again. Kicking the can always seems to work.

Man, I think the teams have at least 5 year cap plans, with a solid range of the annual increase determined.  They definitely aren't flying in the dark year to year.  Too much at stake for the league and the NFLPA to not plan ahead.   They all knew the range of the 2024 increase by 2022 at the lastest so they could plan accordingly. 

2 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Obviously you mean during Moorehead's stint.

While. it's JMO, I believe Quez developed here. He may not be a great fit as a slot, but when he's on the outside he plays well enough that I think we'll see some team give him a shot in free agency this season. In the right offense, I think he can be a solid #2. In 2020, as pointed out, Fulgham came out of nowhere to fill in because of injuries and the coaches had him prepared. Sure, people have reasonable arguments against Quez and I understand. So that leaves us with JJAW, Reagor, and Smith (and Hightower). JJAW, Reagor and Hightower all failed everywhere else to date, so I'd chalk that up to the player, not the coaching. Smith has met (my) expectations and surpassed those of doubters that questioned his build at the NFL level. I'd argue that the coaching has not failed him at all. Brown has been here 2 years and had his 2 best seasons. Once again, I'd argue that the coaching hasn't failed him. 

Also, keep in mind that Sirianni's background is mainly WR, so there may be a dynamic where the two are on the same page as coaches and Nick believes Moorehead is the best person for the job still. 

I just don't see why fans seem unhappy with Moorehead returning. They don't "know" what he has done well, but just assume that means he must not be doing anything well. 

Lmao quez as a #2????? What on earth makes you think he would be a good #2? What does he do well? He doesn't have great hands, he doesn't run great routes, he doesn't block all that well. All he can do is run fast in straight line

19 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Are you trying to gaslight us?  

That type of spin would make even Dave Spadaro blush.