2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Cox being their best defender says a lot about Cox but also a lot about the Eagles investment in DT and the lack of production they are getting from them. They've drafted 5 DT over the last 3 years. Two of them they traded up for in the 1st. Milton Williams was a 3rd. These guys have been touted as the next DT duo for the next decade and Williams is supposed to be a top rotational DT. Instead, they have to bring in veterans to give them breathers.

We've beaten to death the Davis pick and how they could have stayed put for Kyle Hamilton, traded back for Trent McDuffie, Jermaine Johnson or George Karlaftis. But what's also missed is the Eagles traded pick 15, 124, 162 and 166 to move up. By making that trade, the Eagles sat out from pick 83 to 183.

pick 124- Jake Ferguson was pick 129. Romeo Doubs at 132. Isaiah Likely at 139. Chigoziem Okonkwo pick 143. Tyler Allgeier 151. Jerome Ford 156.

pick 162- Kyren Williams was taken at 164

pick 166- Daron Bland was pick 167

Would you rather have Jordan Davis or some combo of the above players?

Can you imagine this team if they had Trent McDuffie, Romeo Doubs, Kyren Williams and Daron Bland?

You'd have your CB1 and CB2 locked down for the next decade and wouldn't have had to pay Slay or Bradberry. You wouldn't have had to trade a 3rd round pick on Kelee Ringo either. WR3 wouldn't be a question as Doubs would kill it from the slot and Kyren Williams would be entering his prime as RB1. 

 

Davis is Mamula 2.0…he’s going to have a solid career, but no matter what he does he won’t be remembered fondly unless he finds some serious dedication to the game.

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Oh, I'm happy to put the offensive blame on everyone.  I was fully on board with a complete overhaul of the offensive coaching staff (Stout, excluded), and starting from scratch.   They chose the half way plan... some stay, some go.   We'll see if there's any benefit to keeping any of them.   And we'll see if the guys they bring in are the right ones.

Stout might need to be looked at soon for his run game coordinator role.  How much were the baboons developing game plans holding him back.  We’ve seen the run game and his concepts multiple times revolutionize the game since he came over from Bama (starting with bringing the RPO).  I find it hard to believe a coach of his caliber is pounding the table to be operating out of the gun 90% of the game.

I think it’s important we have one safety who is capable as a center fielder. I know we like to rotate and spin safeties, but I don’t want to have two substandard safeties in single high coverages. I like Blankenship, but he’s much better when playing downhill than sideline to sideline. 

14 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Yes and no…he almost has to run on scramble drills because he can’t throw on the run because of his lack of arm strength and consistent mechanics.  On the flip side, half of his ‘scramble drills’ was him bailing from completely clean pockets.

Hurts leaving clean pockets too early is a problem. IMO, it's easily the worst part of his game.

Hurts is fine throwing on the run. The problem is that our offense is awful at the scramble drills. Another Aaron Moorehead special!

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I think it’s important we have one safety who is capable as a center fielder. I know we like to rotate and spin safeties, but I don’t want to have two substandard safeties in single high coverages. I like Blankenship, but he’s much better when playing downhill than sideline to sideline. 

I think even when we end up with single high looks, the safety isnt exactly playing center field. Itll end up being a cover 3. It seems Fangio defenses value the downhill safety moreso than the center fielder. If he knows that about his defense, hes not likely to put his safeties in that position. 

I also think Brown has a chance to be that center fielder type with his speed. He just needs more experience. Hes pretty sure not ever going to be the downhill type with his trouble tackling. Im ok with developing his awareness in coverage more, and focusing on finding the right starters for the base defense who can do a bit of everything. 

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

Hurts leaving clean pockets too early is a problem. IMO, it's easily the worst part of his game.

Hurts is fine throwing on the run. The problem is that our offense is awful at the scramble drills. Another Aaron Moorehead special!

Hurts is not fine throwing on the run.  He doesn’t have the arm or mechanics…it is what it is with him.  He’s going to throw ducks or floaters most of the time.  Scramble drill issues or not.  He also needs to remember that he can keep his eyes up while bailing too.  That’s another huge issue and regression point of his.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

I think even when we end up with single high looks, the safety isnt exactly playing center field. Itll end up being a cover 3. It seems Fangio defenses value the downhill safety moreso than the center fielder. If he knows that about his defense, hes not likely to put his safeties in that position. 

I also think Brown has a chance to be that center fielder type with his speed. He just needs more experience. Hes pretty sure not ever going to be the downhill type with his trouble tackling. Im ok with developing his awareness in coverage more, and focusing on finding the right starters for the base defense who can do a bit of everything. 

Brown’s instincts leave too much to be desired right now…and who knows when he’s gonna be healthy.

12 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Stout might need to be looked at soon for his run game coordinator role.  How much were the baboons developing game plans holding him back.  We’ve seen the run game and his concepts multiple times revolutionize the game since he came over from Bama (starting with bringing the RPO).  I find it hard to believe a coach of his caliber is pounding the table to be operating out of the gun 90% of the game.

The elephant in the room.   Is he not the run game coordinator we have been led to believe, or is he being stifled by the team's unwillingness to commit to running the ball, and play callers who ignore it? 

I think Moore is a guy we can trust to commit more to the run game.  We'll see.

12 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I think it’s important we have one safety who is capable as a center fielder. I know we like to rotate and spin safeties, but I don’t want to have two substandard safeties in single high coverages. I like Blankenship, but he’s much better when playing downhill than sideline to sideline. 

Trouble with that is that he seems like he might be too fragile for that.

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The elephant in the room.   Is he not the run game coordinator we have been led to believe, or is he being stifled by the team's unwillingness to commit to running the ball, and play callers who ignore it? 

I think Moore is a guy we can trust to commit more to the run game.  We'll see.

His blocking schemes are always evolving. I refuse to believe he’s the one saying let’s run IZ 90% of our runs.  Last year was just wild and leaves so many questions.

26 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Davis is Mamula 2.0…he’s going to have a solid career, but no matter what he does he won’t be remembered fondly unless he finds some serious dedication to the game.

To add to this, I’d be happy with Mamula 2.0 as long as he’s not Corey Simon 2.0.

Brian Burns likely to be tagged, as one might expect.

 

29 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Hurts is not fine throwing on the run.  He doesn’t have the arm or mechanics…it is what it is with him.  He’s going to throw ducks or floaters most of the time.  Scramble drill issues or not.  He also needs to remember that he can keep his eyes up while bailing too.  That’s another huge issue and regression point of his.

It's almost like Hurts is fine throwing on the run, to either side, as long as there's actually a receiver to throw to. There are clips there that require arm strength, touch and accuracy. He throws on both sides of the field too.

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Reddick isn’t a DE, he’s a rush LB that is mediocre in coverage but does get sacks.  So the real question is how many rush LBs are still effective in their low 30s.  Problem I see is whether the sacks make up for the deficiencies in Fangio’s D, where Reddick may be asked to cover more and pick up the RB.  

Many get on Sweat but he actually played pretty well as a defensive end last year in the four man fronts.  

I was disappointed as the Eagles seemed to abandon the varied fronts last year.  And no stunts.  

It seemed like they mostly went with 5 man type fronts.  I don't think that suited Sweat. 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Blankenship is pretty good. But you need another safety at least as good as him and we didnt have that.

tallest midget 

his role should be ST and depth safety

The wider issue with Hurts is needlessly bailing on the pocket; he would have less time spent throwing on the run and al the issues that come with that, if he could work the pocket more. The scheme this season showed people being wiiiiiiiiiiide open and Jalen exiting a clean enough pocket because he heard footsteps and throwing it OOB.

Nuessmeier has a big job stopping that habit

Josh Allen is going to get over 30m per season. Brian Burns wants 30, Chase Young is a bum, Van Ginkel is a decent rotational edge, but if he's your starter, you aren't a Super Bowl team. If you want to try and win a Super Bowl next season, keeping Reddick is your best move. Extending him at 23-25m per through his age 32 season seems very fair based on what guys will get in free agency. I get the fear of paying guys into their 30's, but sometimes ya gotta bite the bullet if you want to win. I don't see an obvious replacement for him if you trade him. You can't expect a rookie pass rusher to come in and replace his production. The top free agents will be vastly overpaid or you're settling for a significant downgrade at a premium position.

Like I said before, if you simply can't pay both Reddick and Sweat, trade Sweat. His production is much easier to replace.

2 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

The wider issue with Hurts is needlessly bailing on the pocket; he would have less time spent throwing on the run and al the issues that come with that, if he could work the pocket more. The scheme this season showed people being wiiiiiiiiiiide open and Jalen exiting a clean enough pocket because he heard footsteps and throwing it OOB.

Nuessmeier has a big job stopping that habit

If Moore knows what he's doing he'll design some outlet targets into the offense, knowing Hurts is prone to leaking out to the right.  There should always be a receiving target in the right flat when Hurts has the ball.

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

tallest midget 

his role should be ST and depth safety

I disagree. My biggest concern with him is his health.  He has talent but he was playing in a broken system last season.  I think he will look much better with a decent coordinator.  

55 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Hurts is not fine throwing on the run.  He doesn’t have the arm or mechanics…it is what it is with him.  He’s going to throw ducks or floaters most of the time.  Scramble drill issues or not.  He also needs to remember that he can keep his eyes up while bailing too.  That’s another huge issue and regression point of his.

to be honest, he does so little of it I dont think I can say if he is good at it or not. Any time he either scrambles for yardage, runs out of bounds, or takes a sack. He doesnt keep his eyes down field for anyone to throw to. And his WRs dont run scramble drills because they probably figure they need to block for him.

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

I'm not calling BS on this even though it feels like I should be calling BS on this.  Sounds like a counterintuitive statement.  

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-data-study-components-quarterback-play-scrambling

Rushing in general has an EPA / rush of about -.01 to 0 over a long period of time because passing is just more effective. The article itself does discuss how not all QBs are equal when it comes to scrambling, so while scrambling is more efficient that's not true for every QB.

56 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Brown’s instincts leave too much to be desired right now…and who knows when he’s gonna be healthy.

he will be healthy in the beginning of next year. I agree on the instincts. I certainly dont want to count on him starting next year. I need DeShon Elliott here to start with Blankenship. Brown can get on the field a few snaps a game to get more experience.

56 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Hurts is not fine throwing on the run.  He doesn’t have the arm or mechanics…it is what it is with him.  He’s going to throw ducks or floaters most of the time.  Scramble drill issues or not.  He also needs to remember that he can keep his eyes up while bailing too.  That’s another huge issue and regression point of his.

He keeps his eyes up.  He's looking but so often all there is to see are defenders.  Poor take, I think.  Now, moving properly in the pocket and not bailing out when he can step up, he does need to improve.  

24 minutes ago, RLC said:

It's almost like Hurts is fine throwing on the run, to either side, as long as there's actually a receiver to throw to. There are clips there that require arm strength, touch and accuracy. He throws on both sides of the field too.

Yep. Not sure how anyone who has watched Hurts play over the past 2 seasons can say "he can’t throw on the run”.   Some of his best throws have been on the run. lol

14 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I disagree. My biggest concern with him is his health.  He has talent but he was playing in a broken system last season.  I think he will look much better with a decent coordinator.  

correct