16 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Ok, but who would be turning down easy money? Look at AP, he’s broke and selling off all his accomplishments. 

He’s 25 and bit off a bit more than he can chew. I don’t see that as actively causing problems. And I don’t see that as a reason for the entire team collapsing. 

Personally, I don't know what is currently happening, but how is something like a Dave Ramsey Financial Peace University standard protocol for these guys?

12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Ok, but who would be turning down easy money? Look at AP, he’s broke and selling off all his accomplishments. 

He’s 25 and bit off a bit more than he can chew. I don’t see that as actively causing problems. And I don’t see that as a reason for the entire team collapsing. 

I didn't read Gunn's tweet in the way it indicates he was the reason for the collapse.

What I'm saying is that article is phrased like I'm supposed to feel bad for Hurts because "he'd rather be wiping off sweat in the Texas heat" like he didn't have that choice and decided to do commercials instead. Such a creature of habit, blah blah blah no one forced him to do any of that.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Personally, I don't know what is currently happening, but how is something like a Dave Ramsey Financial Peace University standard protocol for these guys?

I think all they do is that money management thing during the rookie symposium so the league can say they tried, I doubt the individual teams care enough to set something up for their players.

54 minutes ago, devpool said:

 No one forced him to make commercials or be on TV shows 

QB1 commercials suck harder then him bailing out of clean pockets

39 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

I blame Hulu.

QB1 acting is worse then Chris Klein 

I don't believe the tweet. It doesn't make sense to me and seems more like reporters just saying crap like usual to get clicks and views

37 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Personally, I don't know what is currently happening, but how is something like a Dave Ramsey Financial Peace University standard protocol for these guys?

The NFL has extensive financial advising options available to all players and specifically targets bringing these resources to rookies.  Wharton is basically an open resource to NFL players as well.  You can lead a horse to water…

31 minutes ago, devpool said:

I didn't read Gunn's tweet in the way it indicates he was the reason for the collapse.

What I'm saying is that article is phrased like I'm supposed to feel bad for Hurts because "he'd rather be wiping off sweat in the Texas heat" like he didn't have that choice and decided to do commercials instead. Such a creature of habit, blah blah blah no one forced him to do any of that.

Sometimes people get caught up in a moment.  He'd had a great season, great SB, big moolah, lots of good press.  Rarified circumstances.

2 hours ago, Texas Eagle said:

Hurts causing problems while simultaneously regressing isn’t concerning at all

The sad thing is we actually have fans that think this.  What with this city and always the back up qb or the next guy 🤣🤣🤣

Sick of Jalen hurts.. he’s a generic Dak Prescott with a worse arm.. benefits tremendously from a stacked roster.. sucks we hitched our wagon to that loser 

37 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I don't believe the tweet. It doesn't make sense to me and seems more like reporters just saying crap like usual to get clicks and views

Gunn isn't some random reporter, he's actually plugged in and probably has a better rapport with some of the players than any other reporter. Also Gunn's tweet is somewhat corroborated by the article that LeanMean posted, Hurts was overwhelmed by extracurriculars. 

The sirianni thing might be a bit overexaggerated but that's on whoever his source is. 

4 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

Sick of Jalen hurts.. he’s a generic Dak Prescott with a worse arm.. benefits tremendously from a stacked roster.. sucks we hitched our wagon to that loser 

We learned the roster isn't as stacked as we think.  Two excellent receivers for sure.  But the offensive line was ineffective, 1 good but not great TE who can't play a full season backed up by practice squad level players, with mediocre RBs who completely sucked picking up blitzes.

Dak is the best.  Glad you see it too.

1 hour ago, devpool said:

I didn't read Gunn's tweet in the way it indicates he was the reason for the collapse.

What I'm saying is that article is phrased like I'm supposed to feel bad for Hurts because "he'd rather be wiping off sweat in the Texas heat" like he didn't have that choice and decided to do commercials instead. Such a creature of habit, blah blah blah no one forced him to do any of that.

The article was different than Gunns tweet. I’m just saying both heard sources that said similar things. 

And again, he’s taking advantage of being the hot new thing. Hard to blame him for that. 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Personally, I don't know what is currently happening, but how is something like a Dave Ramsey Financial Peace University standard protocol for these guys?

Bad networking 

2 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

We learned the roster isn't as stacked as we think.  Two excellent receivers for sure.  But the offensive line was ineffective, 1 good but not great TE who can't play a full season backed up by practice squad level players, with mediocre RBs who completely sucked picking up blitzes.

Dak is the best.  Glad you see it too.

You're high if you think that Swift is a mediocre RB because of how this idiotic coaching staff brutally misused him all season. 

Also wrong about the line. They were shaky early but they were overall fine, made worse because Hurts was constantly bailing clean pockets and running into pressure.

This offense is definitely stacked, especially compared to the rest of the league. What other team has the pieces that this team has? SF is probably the only other team that has an offense that's as complete as this one 

19 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

Sick of Jalen hurts.. he’s a generic Dak Prescott with a worse arm.. benefits tremendously from a stacked roster.. sucks we hitched our wagon to that loser 

I think it was a mistake for anyone to believe Hurts was capable of replicating his 2022 season.  He was largely unimpressive in both 2020 and 2021, but when the organization paired him with a stud WR1 in AJ Brown, Hurts flourished.  The question going forward is, what is the real Jalen Hurts ceiling?

He’s at his best when combining his running and passing abilities; problem is he’s been getting injured every season and it’s impacting him at the end of each season.  Even when the Eagles went to the Super Bowl there were significant questions about Hurts’ shoulder during that playoff run.

If Hurts is unable to consistently showcase his running ability and stay healthy, what do the Eagles have at QB?  I’m very skeptical Hurts can be an elite QB playing almost solely from the pocket; I think the Eagles need to let him run and invest in a really good #2 for a contingency against the high probability Hurts will wear down.

The biggest organizational question is, how easily can the Eagles move on from their financial commitment to Hurts when he’s no longer mobile by age 29-30?

In other news, Caplan is claiming the contract given to Okwara is worth $1.3M up to $2.6M and half of it is fully guaranteed. If that’s true, that seems pretty silly to give a guy who was on a PS that the Lions didn’t even bother offering a futures contract. 

25 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

We learned the roster isn't as stacked as we think.  Two excellent receivers for sure.  But the offensive line was ineffective, 1 good but not great TE who can't play a full season backed up by practice squad level players, with mediocre RBs who completely sucked picking up blitzes.

Dak is the best.  Glad you see it too.

Let’s look at the playoffs… I saw mat Stafford do more with less. Cj stroud is already better than hurts, also did more with less. Baker mayfield was better with less. Love was better with players with no experience. 

24 minutes ago, devpool said:

You're high if you think that Swift is a mediocre RB because of how this idiotic coaching staff brutally misused him all season. 

Also wrong about the line. They were shaky early but they were overall fine, made worse because Hurts was constantly bailing clean pockets and running into pressure.

This offense is definitely stacked, especially compared to the rest of the league. What other team has the pieces that this team has? SF is probably the only other team that has an offense that's as complete as this one 

I disagree.  Hurts was mediocre, line was mediocre, RBs mediocre, TEs mediocre, coaching mediocre, WRs excellent.   Don't lose like the Eagles did and talk about stacked anything.

38 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

We learned the roster isn't as stacked as we think.  Two excellent receivers for sure.  But the offensive line was ineffective, 1 good but not great TE who can't play a full season backed up by practice squad level players, with mediocre RBs who completely sucked picking up blitzes.

Dak is the best.  Glad you see it too.

The offensive roster is top heavy with little to no depth, but the slotted starters are more than enough and definitely in the top 10-15% of the league. I think there were deeper issues this year as far as game-planning, scheming, and play calling but the roster isn’t an excuse. It was good enough on offense and basically identical from 2022. 

8 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

Let’s look at the playoffs… I saw mat Stafford do more with less. Cj stroud is already better than hurts, also did more with less. Baker mayfield was better with less. Love was better with players with no experience. 

I'm not declaring Hurts played well, simply saying outside of our receivers, no other group on the offense was good.  Not as stacked as we think.

4 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

I disagree.  Hurts was mediocre, line was mediocre, RBs mediocre, TEs mediocre, coaching mediocre, WRs excellent.   Don't lose like the Eagles did and talk about stacked anything.

The coaching was god awful, which is why a stacked offense looked like crap. If they weren't stacked, they wouldn't have won 10 games despite the coaching failures. They're the reason people thought this team was actually good through 11 games; the coaching was horrible all year but the talent was able to overcome it against weaker teams.

Like I said, SF is the only offense comparable in terms of player talent at every position. Big difference there is that their coaching staff is actually good

2 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

I'm not declaring Hurts played well, simply saying outside of our receivers, no other group on the offense was good.  Not as stacked as we think.

You're confusing talent with performance. When a team is stacked, it's full of talented players. You know these players are talented because every year besides this past year, these players have produced (Hurts the only one hit wonder). And after one bad year you're calling them all mediocre except for 2. Maybe it's not the players' talent that was the problem for their poor production...

1 minute ago, devpool said:

You're confusing talent with performance. When a team is stacked, it's full of talented players. You know these players are talented because every year besides this past year, these players have produced (Hurts the only one hit wonder). And after one bad year you're calling them all mediocre except for 2. Maybe it's not the players' talent that was the problem for their poor production...

Eagles were a mediocre team for several years leading up to last season, and now again this season.   Every year besides this year they have produced?  2018-2021: 9-7, 9-7, 4-11-1, 9-8.  Decidedly mediocre.

Just now, Freshmilk said:

Eagles were a mediocre team for several years leading up to last season, and now again this season.   Every year besides this year they have produced?  2018-2021: 9-7, 9-7, 4-11-1, 9-8.  Decidedly mediocre.

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