48 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Any interest in Mack Hollins as a slot? Some say Moore likes a big slot. We also know his offense requires field stretching. Mack has the size, and 4.4 speed. He can be a big slot, and a vertical slot. At a very affordable cost. And also a key STs contributor.

Would love him back!  I had Mack fetish and bought way too many of his cards!😒

No idea if this guy is sources, but playing along that it’s true… it’s baffling the Eagles didn’t push to sign him to the PS when the Niners cut him, but maybe they did, so why not just claim him and cut Penny, whom they signed to no guaranteed money?

24 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

WTF do you mean they don't have weapons. Smith and Brown are two of the best in the league and DG is top 10 with a top OL.  I didn't even read the rest after that. PM just wom a SB with a TE and crap.

McNabb with all his flaws got to NFCCG with starters like their third string guys.

I forgot I had that account ignored and was wondering why I hadn't seen that crazy post

Brown and Smith are elite when given the opportunity 

8 minutes ago, uncphillyfan said:

Would love him back!  I had Mack fetish and bought way too many of his cards!😒

Mack broke out in atlanta and didnt do as much last year. But I suspect for as much as Hurts uses a WR3 he would be just fine here as he seems to bring the exact skillset and traits we need.

I think you can hedge your bets by signing both him and Darnell Mooney. Let them compete. One of them should be a capable WR3. The other, a capable 4th.

Also, a drat pick, maybe in round 3. 

The depth chart would be looking good again.

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

No idea if this guy is sources, but playing along that it’s true… it’s baffling the Eagles didn’t push to sign him to the PS when the Niners cut him, but maybe they did, so why not just claim him and cut Penny, whom they signed to no guaranteed money?

They did the same thing with Okwara. Who knows. 

 

 

People keep saying the Eagles had a tough schedule in 2023. It was on paper, it wasn’t that bad in reality. 7 games were against teams picking in the top 10 of the draft this year. It was very middle of the pack. 

Here’s the rank based on the final 2023 strength of schedule. 

 

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

They did the same thing with Okwara. Who knows. 

looks like howie has a new trick that people cant figure out yet.

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

looks like howie has a new trick that people cant figure out yet.

Guarantee money to guys who couldn’t get futures deals? 

7 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

There’s actually Ravens fans in the comments saying they wouldn’t want to do that deal.

Cap issues?   AJ Brown is worth the money,  but the Ravens don't have the money to spend.   If you actually look at the Ravens roster,  they have a lot of good WRs,  so it isn't a need,  but the OL is a need.   It's clear that from a value perspective,  the Eagles would be giving up a lot more.   Brown is better than any single Ravens WR,  but they have 4 WRs who are good,   Zay Flowers, OBJ, Bateman, Agholor.   Both Zay and OBJ were better than Smith this year.   Smith had better stats because the Eagles were using the "never take them off the field until they break" platoon system.   Hopefully,  the Eagles move away from that "never take them off the field until they break" system,  have players, even if they're better,  sit and rest so they'll be fresh and healthy for the playoffs.   If Jalen Hurts is banged up and can't run as well, the Eagles could use Mariota more.  Mariota has won a playoff game,  so it's not necessary to grind out every snap from Hurts.  It's most important to have healthy players for the playoffs.  

 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Guarantee money to guys who couldn’t get futures deals? 

Who is saying these guys couldn’t get futures deals?

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Guarantee money to guys who couldn’t get futures deals? 

if your scratching your head at Howie contracts, most likely hes not wrong. School is in session.

7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Who is saying these guys couldn’t get futures deals?

The Eagles. 

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/eagles-sign-tyrion-davis-price-and-darian-kinnard#:~:text=The Eagles have signed free,averaging 3 yards per carry.

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 The running back was free to sign with any team after not receiving a Reserve/Future contract from the 49ers.

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However, Okwara did not receive a Reserve/Future contract with the NFC North Division Champions following the 2023 season, allowing him to sign elsewhere.

 

Maybe this guy’s info is wrong because Davis-Price’s agent said he got the biggest futures deal. 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

if your scratching your head at Howie contracts, most likely hes not wrong. School is in session.

I’m not scratching my head at all. Clearly there is a scout or someone banging the table for these guys inside the organization. It’s not like Howie created some new strategy. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Maybe this guy’s info is wrong because Davis-Price’s agent said he got the biggest futures deal. 

Caplan said the same thing a few days ago. Hes probably just using him as a source.

 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

The Eagles. 

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/eagles-sign-tyrion-davis-price-and-darian-kinnard#:~:text=The Eagles have signed free,averaging 3 yards per carry.

 

So I thought these futures deals were contracts agreed to by both player and team, not just the team simply tendering a futures contract. 

I bet this is more about the players asking to explore their options and their former teams agreeing. Maybe I’m wrong. 

Not that you’re arguing this point LMGM, but I’m posting for clarification.

"When a player finishes the season on a practice squad, they are not obligated to the team once they finish the season. They may sign a Reserve/Future contract with any NFL team. So while a franchise cannot sign another player from another team’s practice squad to their own practice squad during the season, they can sign players from another team’s practice squad and sign them to a futures contract at the conclusion of the season.”

7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

So I thought these futures deals were contracts agreed to by both player and team, not just the team simply tendering a futures contract. 

I bet this is more about the players asking to explore their options and their former teams agreeing. Maybe I’m wrong. 

For low level guys who aren’t vested vets like this that would be really risky unless tampering is involved. In any case the wording makes it seem like the original team never even offered as an option. 

17 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’m not scratching my head at all. Clearly there is a scout or someone banging the table for these guys inside the organization. It’s not like Howie created some new strategy. 

I bet he did.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

I bet he did.

Guaranteeing money is like the most basic thing in the world with contracts. 

The question is for what reason. 

a couple years from now people will begin to figure out how the eagles found an extra 60M in cap space due to the way these Okwara and Davis-Price contracts were structured. 

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

For low level guys who aren’t vested vets like this that would be really risky unless tampering is involved. In any case the wording makes it seem like the original team never even offered as an option. 

Honestly, I think the Eagles just worded it poorly unless the rules have changed.

I also don’t think there’s any risk to low level guys. If you aren’t on the 53 man roster (or ended the year on IR I presume), then your agent is free to talk to whomever once the season ends. They’re an immediate free agent.

I don't see how people aren't generally extremely optimistic.   Last year proved they could go 10-1 with 4 very good or better players at the skill positions.   They have all 4 of them coming back.   Every other player at the skill positions was below average.   The Eagles are able to keep their 4 best pieces on offense, and have 8 other positions which can be upgrades.  2 starting positions are open,  RB and WR3orTE2 (probably)   The Eagles got nothing special from the RBs,  good results there due largely to Great OL. And that other spot is a mystery spot that could be filled by a very good player,  a mid 2nd round pick.   You have the 4 core QB/WR/WR/TE coming back.  And this year everything else was not notable.  Add notable stuff.  It's really easy.  Who would be the best weapon on offense with the 2nd round pick?   Add that player with the 2nd round pick.  I'd say Xavier Legette at this point before the combine.   He's supposed to put up good numbers to go along with 220+ WR and 22.3 mph - faster run than any NFL run this year.  And a HS QB who ran for 1800+ yards his senior year.  I would spend a pick to get a guy who can take a snap, who is about Jalen's size, and is the fastest player in the NFL.    And Legette is also that potent downfield threat that Watkins wasn't, and apparently the Eagles need to have in their offense.   I'd want to look at his numbers, how he compares to Metcalf and Deebo Samuel.  So,  the main difference in the offense between last year,  and this year,  would be - added fastest player in the NFL.  So, be optimistic.

18 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Honestly, I think the Eagles just worded it poorly unless the rules have changed.

I also don’t think there’s any risk to low level guys. If you aren’t on the 53 man roster (or ended the year on IR I presume), then your agent is free to talk to whomever once the season ends. They’re an immediate free agent.

Hard to say either way without being in the building. I’d bet teams have a slim window to offer a futures contract once their season ends. I don’t think it’s a free for all for any teams PS guys the second their season ends or you’d see a lot more movement. The majority of PS guys sign. I think Eagles had like 13 or so guys sign futures deals that were on the PS. 

i also think it’s pretty risky. These are guys who either cleared waivers or could be poached at some point but weren’t. Is their best chance at sticking on a roster going somewhere completely different where no one knows you? Or coming back to a team with familiarity and coaches who already know you? Generally speaking I’d think signing a futures deal is their best bet.