9 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

So you expect two of the longest tenured veterans on the team to trash their head coach? They have been company guys for their whole careers. I take nothing they say about Siri with anything but a huge chunk of salt. Until it’s announced he’s gone by the brass, he is their coach. Nobody is going to throw him under the bus publicly. 

 

There is ways to give a passive support and there is ways to give strong support by calling a reporter a clown and to get away from you for even asking.  

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

Well, good news is he’s still referring to fixing the offense as "we” meaning he’s still part of the team as of now. 

Absolutely love Kelce. Would love him back for as long as he wants to continue to play.

 

Just now, hukdonfoniks said:

Coaching is 1,000,000% the problem with this team.  Desai at least showed flashes (the Miami game) but him and BJ are both absolute train wrecks.  Patricia I don't know how he still manages to catch on anywhere. 

Lurie *has* to clean house.  He can't save this or rationalize what happened to this team this season. 

Yep. The roster has zero issues on offense and should have been a well oiled machine. The defense had some holes but even the areas of the team that had talent (the DL) looked mediocre at best this year and took a major step back. When pretty much everyone in the football world is watching your playoff game and dumbfounded and/or making fun of your team for how poorly coached they are and it was the same exact issues we had seen for two months the main problem is clear to anyone who is looking at things from an objective and even somewhat intelligent standpoint. Aikman has always done a good job of being a fair and objective color guy (so I don't want to hear Cowboys bias) and he was basically saying in a nice way throughout the night that the team is horribly coached.

 

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

There is ways to give a passive support and there is ways to give strong support by calling a reporter a clown and to get away from you for even asking.  

So because they didn’t call the reporter a clown, it’s not strong support. GTFO of here with this nonsense. 

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

Yep. The roster has zero issues on offense and should have been a well oiled machine. The defense had some holes but even the areas of the team that had talent (the DL) looked mediocre at best this year and took a major step back. When pretty much everyone in the football world is watching your playoff game and dumbfounded and/or making fun of your team for how poorly coached they are and it was the same exact issues we had seen for two months the main problem is clear to anyone who is looking at things from an objective and even somewhat intelligent standpoint. Aikman has always done a good job of being a fair and objective color guy (so I don't want to hear Cowboys bias) and he was basically saying in a nice way throughout the night that the team is horribly coached.

Am in the same place.  Not sure how you can bring back some of these coaches.  It looked like we didn't know what we were doing out there.  And the buck stops with the boss.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

The focus this off-season for D's is on motion. Shanahan, McDaniel, Lefleur, McVay, Slowick.

Those are the offences dominating and all in the playoffs. The infamous staff from the Commanders 2013 season that went 3 - 13. And 10 years later here we are...

5 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

There is ways to give a passive support and there is ways to give strong support by calling a reporter a clown and to get away from you for even asking.  

There is general diplomacy. It's the best option for an answer that serves the right optics.

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

So basically any defense worked against hurts and bj

I've already locked myself in on Sirianni needing to absolutely go, but I've been trying to analyze it from Lurie's perspective and every argument you could make for Sirianni is just overrode by just how bad the coaching was. Like, this wasn't a couple bad play calls in a game. This wasn't a misuse of a timeout in a bad spot. This is consistent unfathomable stubbornness(or idiocy) on a weekly basis, all season, changing absolutely nothing no matter how much the league and the NFL world has completely figured you out. All down to the final game of the season in the playoffs where once again it was the same thing. Same plan vs the blitz, same ineffective screens over and over, same no throwing to the middle of the field, same dropping Reddick into coverage.

Lurie may not be a football guy, but Howie watches the film. The dude must be pulling his hair out watching that every week. Unless there's ulterior motivations at play, there's no way Howie can look at such ineptitude and feel good about Sirianni's football competence, and I'm sure he's relaying his opinion to Lurie.

3 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

So because they didn’t call the reporter a clown, it’s not strong support. GTFO of here with this nonsense. 

 

What?  Cox DID call the reporter a clown and that is why it was some pretty strong support. 

4 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Jfc its been two days

6 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Yep. The roster has zero issues on offense and should have been a well oiled machine. The defense had some holes but even the areas of the team that had talent (the DL) looked mediocre at best this year and took a major step back. When pretty much everyone in the football world is watching your playoff game and dumbfounded and/or making fun of your team for how poorly coached they are and it was the same exact issues we had seen for two months the main problem is clear to anyone who is looking at things from an objective and even somewhat intelligent standpoint. Aikman has always done a good job of being a fair and objective color guy (so I don't want to hear Cowboys bias) and he was basically saying in a nice way throughout the night that the team is horribly coached.

If there was one hole, I'd say its pass-catching depth below the big-3.

But I think even some of that is the scheme and Hurts not looking that way or trusting them at all.

Doesn't need to be many touches but just a few to keep D's honest

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

What?  Cox DID call the reporter a clown and that is why it was some pretty strong support. 

Yeah but Kelce didn’t. So…only passive support. 

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Just in time for the Super Bowl!

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Jfc its been two days

Yeah it's likely tomorrow when we find out.

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I've already locked myself in on Sirianni needing to absolutely go, but I've been trying to analyze it from Lurie's perspective and every argument you could make for Sirianni is just overrode by just how bad the coaching was. Like, this wasn't a couple bad play calls in a game. This wasn't a misuse of a timeout in a bad spot. This is consistent unfathomable stubbornness(or idiocy) on a weekly basis, all season, changing absolutely nothing no matter how much the league and the NFL world has completely figured you out. All down to the final game of the season in the playoffs where once again it was the same thing. Same plan vs the blitz, same ineffective screens over and over, same no throwing to the middle of the field, same dropping Reddick into coverage.

Lurie may not be a football guy, but Howie watches the film. The dude must be pulling his hair out watching that every week. Unless there's ulterior motivations at play, there's no way Howie can look at such ineptitude and feel good about Sirianni's football competence, and I'm sure he's relaying his opinion to Lurie.

They know.  Just a question of what to do about it.  Usually you want to have a viable plan in place before you start throwing people overboard.

21 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Sure, but he’s so high variance it’s crazy. This was the exact opposite of the 2017 offseason. 

The draft looks fine. Cunningham was a good signing given cost. He was correct about most of the players he let walk with the surprising exception of Marcus Epps. 

It's not the disaster of 2019.

23 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Byard being an epic failure of a move was shocking and just points to how bad the coaching was. Yeah the dude has lost a step but he is still a starting level player in this league who looked completely lost and no better than Edmunds. When you have a laundry list of guy who were significantly worse than last season it can't just be that they all got old overnight. Slay was worse, Bradberry went from all pro to horrendous, BG, Sweat, Reddick, etc all worse than last season.

PFF -

all the Cornerbacks were below average except Slay

3 Safeties were above average - Byard, Reed, McCollum

3 LBs were above average - Morrow, Cunningham,  VanSumeren

I've seen Morrow and Cunningham play badly quite recently,  but PFF has both above average, slightly.   Could be that they weren't all that bad when the Eagles were 10-1 and got worse when the Eagles were losing?

Overall,  I would have to take a look at that Cornerbacks coach if 9 out of 10 CBs were below average.  I don't know who it is,  but look there.

 

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

The draft looks fine. Cunningham was a good signing given cost. He was correct about most of the players he let walk with the surprising exception of Marcus Epps. 

It's not the disaster of 2019.

He shouldn't have let both White and Edwards walk. And likewise both CJGJ and Epps. 

37 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Wow.  Who knows what the heck was going on behind the scenes with that defense. 

A lot of massages apparently.  DeShaun Watson reading that like 👀 

2 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

PFF -

all the Cornerbacks were below average except Slay

3 Safeties were above average - Byard, Reed, McCollum

3 LBs were above average - Morrow, Cunningham,  VanSumeren

I've seen Morrow and Cunningham play badly quite recently,  but PFF has both above average, slightly.   Could be that they weren't all that bad when the Eagles were 10-1 and got worse when the Eagles were losing?

Overall,  I would have to take a look at that Cornerbacks coach if 9 out of 10 CBs were below average.  I don't know who it is,  but look there.

 

Go haunt the Ravens board. 

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

The draft looks fine. Cunningham was a good signing given cost. He was correct about most of the players he let walk with the surprising exception of Marcus Epps. 

It's not the disaster of 2019.

Edwards and White are better than Cunningham. CJGJ and Epps would be our best safeties. 

Im patient with draft picks, but as we sit today, is it really fine? Carter looks really good. Brown didn’t really show that much in limited time (the coaches using him as a slot did him no favors). Steen was inactive to close the year. Ringo showed some things. Did he show enough for us to count on him next year? McKee, who knows. Ojomo certainly flashed a bit and looks like a rotational piece. 

11 minutes ago, RLC said:

The draft looks fine. Cunningham was a good signing given cost. He was correct about most of the players he let walk with the surprising exception of Marcus Epps. 

It's not the disaster of 2019.

Epps was the least egregious of Howie's mistakes.  That guy couldn't cover or tackle.  Blankenship as a UDFA stepped right into his role. 

-- Edwards and CJGJ were not coming back, but giving money to Slay and Bradberry was always a huge risk. 

-- Sanders was fine to let walk. 

-- Hargrave was the right decision.

-- Kyzir White I was iffy on; didn't make many plays but also didn't hurt the team.  It was signing Morrow to be a starting LB that was nutty from the get-go.

-- Trusting Nakobe Dean to be an undisputed starting LB was dumb as well.

-- Signing Edmunds and Evans to be starting safeties and primary depth was dumb as well