59 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Definitely not. Will be easier to get a CB in the draft than replace Reddick. Could just draft a CB.

If Howie was able to draft CB, I'd tend to agree but show me a CB he's drafted that has done a damn thing for the Eagles. 

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Random thought: Would you trade Reddick for Sneed and impending monster contract?

Was thinking about that earlier today... that's the only way I trade for Sneed, and I don't trade any picks with Hassan.  Straight player for player deal.  If they want picks too, no deal.

18 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Need at DT?  They have Carter, Davis, Williams, Marlon T., Ojomo and Booker and Elliss on future contracts. 

The young players have to play in real games to develop.  Keeping the vets around to show them the ropes has value, but not as a feature of roster building.  It is time to move on from the vets.     

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That would be an insane contract to offer him.

Yep, but if he has 8-10 sacks in 2024 he is going to ask for it.

20 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Need at DT?  They have Carter, Davis, Williams, Marlon T., Ojomo and Booker and Elliss on future contracts. 

Jalen Carter is a special talent. He's not proven to be the guy yet. It's still fair to question his maturity at this point. Jordan Davis is only playing half the snaps. Milton Williams is in the last year of his deal. Marlon Tuipulotu is DT5 material. Ojomo (who I'm high on), played all of 68 snaps and is far from a roster lock. Elliss and Booker are future contract guys, or PS players. 

It sucks to say it because it seems they invest a ton at DT, but DT is still a need. 

DT: Carter should be a stud and handle FT snaps going forward. Williams is a good backup who can start if needed for injury. If Cox does not return, Ojomo and Marlon T are ok as last depth but nothing special.

Davis is the key here. He hasn't proven yet he can be conditioned enough and play FT snaps. They traded up for him and he's entering year 3. It doesn't seem he will make that leap. If Cox leaves, they should sign a veteran to split time with him to keep them all fresh. This is Davis' final year to prove if he was worth trading up for not. He may just be a rotational guy.

They need help everywhere on defense so it would be kind of disappointing to draft yet another DT high. Using one of those 5th round comp picks plus a free agent though can work if they're using their higher picks to upgrade other positions (EDGE, LB, S, CB).

30 minutes ago, NOTW said:

DT: Carter should be a stud and handle FT snaps going forward. Williams is a good backup who can start if needed for injury. If Cox does not return, Ojomo and Marlon T are ok as last depth but nothing special.

Davis is the key here. He hasn't proven yet he can be conditioned enough and play FT snaps. They traded up for him and he's entering year 3. It doesn't seem he will make that leap. If Cox leaves, they should sign a veteran to split time with him to keep them all fresh. This is Davis' final year to prove if he was worth trading up for not. He may just be a rotational guy.

They need help everywhere on defense so it would be kind of disappointing to draft yet another DT high. Using one of those 5th round comp picks plus a free agent though can work if they're using their higher picks to upgrade other positions (EDGE, LB, S, CB).

 

With Fletch gone it looks like we need another player to play about 40% of the snaps (maybe 20% if JC and Milton can play 60%). 

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Jalen Carter is a special talent. He's not proven to be the guy yet. It's still fair to question his maturity at this point. Jordan Davis is only playing half the snaps. Milton Williams is in the last year of his deal. Marlon Tuipulotu is DT5 material. Ojomo (who I'm high on), played all of 68 snaps and is far from a roster lock. Elliss and Booker are future contract guys, or PS players. 

It sucks to say it because it seems they invest a ton at DT, but DT is still a need. 

It's an interesting (and somewhat subjective) discussion on what the Eagles biggest needs are, from a roster perspective.  Most folks know and can rank what the Eagles philosophy is as far as positional value.  For me, I would rank "need" as positions where the Eagles aren't even getting league-average play, and I try to take into account the overall NFL positional value.  I would rank the Eagles' present needs in order, as:

Free safety -- I'm not a believer in either Sydney Brown or Blankenship as quality starters at this point.  Blankenship is a backup/starter level player who makes plays from good instincts, but is a physically limited player for the position.  To me, he's not a fluid athlete.  Sydney Brown is extremely raw -- to the point he was hurting the team out there at times.  I'd like to see a really good "center fielder" type of safety, who can cover ground and cover up some mistakes from others.

Linebacker -- Nakobe Dean and Zach Cunningham having starting LB jobs next season is a depressing thought, and I think Cunningham played decent for the most part.  Eagles need a 3-down stud LB who can tandem with a less talented one to make look good -- a la Roquan Smith and Patrick Queen.

Nickel CB -- the Eagles simply can't afford infirmary Maddox anymore.  He's a lousy outside CB, pretty good slot CB, but not good enough to justify the time he misses or the money he's due to get paid.  Eagles need to find a good, young replacement.

WR3 -- not sure where I stand on AJ Brown.  I think he's the best WR1 the Eagles have had since at least T.O., and I would argue he can be better than T.O. was as an Eagle.  I definitely think the Eagles need some AJ Brown insurance though, in case he implodes.  It's a deep WR draft; if there's a good one who is BPA at #53 I think the Eagles should consider it.

RG -- this depends on what the Eagles feel they have in Tyler Steen.  Is he going to be a starting RG?  Swing OT?  OL is a definite need, even if Steen slots into the starting 5.  

RB -- does DeAndre Swift come back?  If he's priced out of range, RB becomes an even bigger need.

TE2 --  Goedert misses time; not to the same extent as his roommate (who needs to be elsewhere), but he misses a fair bit.  Upgrading that position over Calcaterra and Stoll shouldn't be a tough ask.

DE -- with Graham either on diminished time or gone, the Eagles need a true DE with size.  If Reddick and Sweat are both here, they have two "speed-ball" EDGE types, but they need a DE to set the LOS.

 

That's eight positions already and I could continue.  Just typing this, I understand better why I'm let down after most drafts.  The Eagles will focus on the trenches, QB, and WR as building block positions.  That means me ranking FS, LB, CB as 1-2-3 leaves me hoping for some good free agent acquisitions.   

31 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

If Howie was able to draft CB, I'd tend to agree but show me a CB he's drafted that has done a damn thing for the Eagles. 

17 minutes ago, NOTW said:

DT: Carter should be a stud and handle FT snaps going forward. Williams is a good backup who can start if needed for injury. If Cox does not return, Ojomo and Marlon T are ok as last depth but nothing special.

Davis is the key here. He hasn't proven yet he can be conditioned enough and play FT snaps. They traded up for him and he's entering year 3. It doesn't seem he will make that leap. If Cox leaves, they should sign a veteran to split time with him to keep them all fresh. This is Davis' final year to prove if he was worth trading up for not. He may just be a rotational guy.

They need help everywhere on defense so it would be kind of disappointing to draft yet another DT high. Using one of those 5th round comp picks plus a free agent though can work if they're using their higher picks to upgrade other positions (EDGE, LB, S, CB).

Carter SHOULD be a stud. Corey Simon was supposed to be a stud. Broderick Bunkley was supposed to be a stud. The only DT they've drafted in the 1st who didn't have high expectations was Mike Patterson and he was pick 31. I'd be thrilled if Jordan Davis had a Mike Patterson career and that's depressing.

I mentioned Javon Kinlaw yesterday. I think he'd be a great fit for the Fangino defense. 

6 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

It's an interesting (and somewhat subjective) discussion on what the Eagles biggest needs are, from a roster perspective.  Most folks know and can rank what the Eagles philosophy is as far as positional value.  For me, I would rank "need" as positions where the Eagles aren't even getting league-average play, and I try to take into account the overall NFL positional value.  I would rank the Eagles' present needs in order, as:

Free safety -- I'm not a believer in either Sydney Brown or Blankenship as quality starters at this point.  Blankenship is a backup/starter level player who makes plays from good instincts, but is a physically limited player for the position.  To me, he's not a fluid athlete.  Sydney Brown is extremely raw -- to the point he was hurting the team out there at times.  I'd like to see a really good "center fielder" type of safety, who can cover ground and cover up some mistakes from others.

Linebacker -- Nakobe Dean and Zach Cunningham having starting LB jobs next season is a depressing thought, and I think Cunningham played decent for the most part.  Eagles need a 3-down stud LB who can tandem with a less talented one to make look good -- a la Roquan Smith and Patrick Queen.

Nickel CB -- the Eagles simply can't afford infirmary Maddox anymore.  He's a lousy outside CB, pretty good slot CB, but not good enough to justify the time he misses or the money he's due to get paid.  Eagles need to find a good, young replacement.

WR3 -- not sure where I stand on AJ Brown.  I think he's the best WR1 the Eagles have had since at least T.O., and I would argue he can be better than T.O. was as an Eagle.  I definitely think the Eagles need some AJ Brown insurance though, in case he implodes.  It's a deep WR draft; if there's a good one who is BPA at #53 I think the Eagles should consider it.

RG -- this depends on what the Eagles feel they have in Tyler Steen.  Is he going to be a starting RG?  Swing OT?  OL is a definite need, even if Steen slots into the starting 5.  

RB -- does DeAndre Swift come back?  If he's priced out of range, RB becomes an even bigger need.

TE2 --  Goedert misses time; not to the same extent as his roommate (who needs to be elsewhere), but he misses a fair bit.  Upgrading that position over Calcaterra and Stoll shouldn't be a tough ask.

DE -- with Graham either on diminished time or gone, the Eagles need a true DE with size.  If Reddick and Sweat are both here, they have two "speed-ball" EDGE types, but they need a DE to set the LOS.

 

That's eight positions already and I could continue.  Just typing this, I understand better why I'm let down after most drafts.  The Eagles will focus on the trenches, QB, and WR as building block positions.  That means me ranking FS, LB, CB as 1-2-3 leaves me hoping for some good free agent acquisitions.   

That's a solid write up and I don't disagree with anything you say. When I say DT is a need, I don't mean it's a priority, just that they need a DT. Fletcher Cox played 66% of the snaps last year. That means you need a significant jump in snaps from Carter, Davis, Williams at the very least. 

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I'm a Jalen Mills fan. I'm a Jordan Mailata fan. Relying on striking gold in the 7th rounder does nothing to boost my confidence in Howie's ability to draft well.

35 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

If Howie was able to draft CB, I'd tend to agree but show me a CB he's drafted that has done a damn thing for the Eagles. 

He really doesn't draft good defensive players in general. Especially after the top half of round 1 

42 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Half these guys are just names, not players.  And Davis has yet to play 50% of the snaps.   

 

Meanwhile, they have needs at EDGE, LB, S and CB.  The defense is an abyss currently.

Agreend. 

The dearth of talent on defense was half the problem last season. The offense had enough talent to overcome coaching deficiencies (up to a point, obviously), the defense did not. 

1 hour ago, greendestiny27 said:

Apparently Sneed isn't a great fit for Fangio's defense, neither is Antoine Winfield jr. If some of the best players in the league don't fit in his defense that's pretty bad. I don't want a defense where the best players "don't fit" in. 

Meh

fit matters. Best players are often bc they fit a given scheme well

1 minute ago, greendestiny27 said:

He really doesn't draft good defensive players in general. Especially after the top half of round 1 

Sorry, I'm just not a fan of Howie's draft record. 

39 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Half these guys are just names, not players.  And Davis has yet to play 50% of the snaps.   

 

Meanwhile, they have needs at EDGE, LB, S and CB.  The defense is an abyss currently.

Just names?  Ojomo maybe, but Marlon T. Gets playing time and has trended upwards.  Carter, Davis and Williams played a lot.   Davis needs some body work (as does Ellis.). Ojomo was inactive learning the NFL game because of the numbers above him.  Booker actually shows some promise.  A year on the PS, was a fifth round choice of the Texans.  Excellent athleticism.  A LB level 3 cone and SS, while running 4.94 at 301 lbs.  Elliss is a JAG.  Are 5 DTs not enough.  

Ike Reese on WIP:

"If Trotter Jr is there in the 2nd round and the Eagles pass on him for any of these other linebackers we riot. I'm tired of hearing about this other linebacker from Texas A&M, ain't no way in hell the Eagles should take any other linebacker over Trotter Jr. He was born to be an Eagle. Passing on him would be such a big mistake, I'd lose my mind if they passed on him."

Takes like this are why Philly fans  come off as such neanderthals and simpletons sometimes. You want to win championships? Get the best players. This city cares way too much about finding people who "Get Philly." I want talent. I couldn't give a crap less where they're from or who their dad is. If Trotter is the best LB, sure draft him. If he's not, then no, they shouldn't draft him just because his dad is Trotter. Runyan contributed just as much to this franchise as Trotter did, you didn't hear anyone banging the table for Runyan Jr.

9 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

That's a solid write up and I don't disagree with anything you say. When I say DT is a need, I don't mean it's a priority, just that they need a DT. Fletcher Cox played 66% of the snaps last year. That means you need a significant jump in snaps from Carter, Davis, Williams at the very least. 

Those three guys HAVE TO play 65-70% snaps at a quality level.  That's what Carter and Davis were drafted in the top half of the first round to do.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Ike Reese on WIP:

"If Trotter Jr is there in the 2nd round and the Eagles pass on him for any of these other linebackers we riot. I'm tired of hearing about this other linebacker from Texas A&M, ain't no way in hell the Eagles should take any other linebacker over Trotter Jr. He was born to be an Eagle. Passing on him would be such a big mistake, I'd lose my mind if they passed on him."

Takes like this are why Philly fans  come off as such neanderthals and simpletons sometimes. You want to win championships? Get the best players. This city cares way too much about finding people who "Get Philly." I want talent. I couldn't give a crap less where they're from or who their dad is. If Trotter is the best LB, sure draft him. If he's not, then no, they shouldn't draft him just because his dad is Trotter. Runyan contributed just as much to this franchise as Trotter did, you didn't hear anyone banging the table for Runyan Jr.

I wasn't very impressed with Trotter's tape.  Barrett Carter looked quite a bit better to me at Clemson, and if that's your LB partner, that's not a great sign.  On first look I liked Cooper and Cedric Gray more, but I may need to look again.  

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Talib too. He was on IR and traded to the Dolphins as a salary dump. Then became a FA and retired and never played for them. 

Completely forgot about him. He was a good commentator and had a deal with Amazon until his brother messed up and ruined that for him

If Dom isn't allowed on the sidelines next season the Eagles might want to bring in Cam Newton as QB3.  Not to play, of course .... strictly for sideline grappling and comic relief.

10 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Those three guys HAVE TO play 65-70% snaps at a quality level.  That's what Carter and Davis were drafted in the top half of the first round to do.

I dont think fangio will rotate them as much

1 hour ago, Godfather said:

Vietnamese V

I Pho'd her brains out.

Please don't Banh Mi.

What’s the workout schedule again?