They're so dysfunctional. They either believe in him or they don't. Presenting a "good plan" should not factor in one way or the other. And if Lurie believes in him then he's either totally clueless or he and Howie just like having a yes man to be their head coach.

Hear it from Slay directly 

 

 

The Eagles have really good offensive personnel so they should be able to attract a good coordinator, but Sirianni’s potential lame duck status and possibly maintaining significant  authority over the offense are problems. 

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

They're so dysfunctional. They either believe in him or they don't. Presenting a "good plan" should not factor in one way or the other. And if Lurie believes in him then he's either totally clueless or he and Howie just like having a yes man to be their head coach.

Nick and Howie are tight; you can see it whenever they do a PC together.  Having said that, Howie will sell his mother if he has to.  Also, keep in mind Howie can only fire so many coaches before it becomes apparent that Howie is part of the underlying problem.  Pragmatically, Howie should be going to bat for Nick.

Sirianni won't be fired strictly due to scheme.  If he gets fired it will be because the players say they went to him several times with solutions and were ignored or lied to.

 

If I were Sirianni I would pitch two experienced coordinators:

DC -- Zimmer, Martindale, Rivera

OC -- Roman, McCarthy (if fired)

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

They're so dysfunctional. They either believe in him or they don't. Presenting a "good plan" should not factor in one way or the other. And if Lurie believes in him then he's either totally clueless or he and Howie just like having a yes man to be their head coach.

More of a practice. Strength of a good owner. It shows future coaches he knows how to be fair. To me, it’s basically a guarantee he will question a part of the plan and he’s done.

And if they get off to a slow start next season if he stays, this thing is going to unravel real fast. The team is already shaky on him.

And if Lurie and Howie wanted to bring in an OC with a totally different offensive style, how is that going to mesh with Sirianni who wants to do what he wants? Him being the head coach he'd still be in charge and have final say on gameday stuff. This is all so stupid. If you like Sirianni and want to keep him, then you should trust him enough to allow him to do what he wants with his staff. And if you will only keep him if he makes changes you allow to his staff, then they clearly don't fully trust him. So why keep him?

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Hurts backs Siri & Johnson 

 

 

5 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Hurts backs Siri & Johnson 

 

 

None of these players are going to say they want their still employed coaches fired to the media. Only bad results if the coach doesn’t get fired.

What are they supposed to say?

'Meatballs is clueless, and we won in spite of his ineptitude and stubbornness.'

They're going to run this trainwreck back with maybe just replacing the DC.

Fantastic.

A head coach in private blaming everything on his coordinators is so Fing lame. I know in the NFL coordinators get fired when things go bad, but it's up to ownership to see through that.

Analytics.  I've seen a lot of people say that they are relying too much on it, the coaches don't have control they are being told what to do by the analytics guys, or even some saying they are making decisions "entirely" on analytics.

Someone help explain this in detail with examples. I get that the analytics are used for things like going for it on 4th down depending on field position, going for 2, things like that.

However, there have been so many videos and breakdowns online this year showing awful mistakes the Eagles are making that include stats that show where they're failing.  So it's hard to reconcile this idea that they are driven by analytics...if that were the case then why wouldn't the analytics drive them to call plays to Hurts strengths?  To dial up plays to adjust to the blitz?  To throw shorter passes in slants and the middle of the field?  To bench Bradberry since teams target him and have more success throwing to who he's covering than others?  

There are analytics that show what the Eagles are doing wrong and should be done differently, so how are they being run by analytics?  What am I missing?

16 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

This play was like a flashback to 2019 and 2020 wentz trying to do too much and ultimately backfiring 

 

I see them run the drills all the time but rarely translates on field for Hurts this year. Climb the pocket then escape right. Pocket awareness and movement hasn't been the best. Albeit he's probably happy feet 🐧 with all the blitzing. Not sure if height and passing lanes have something to do with it.

1 minute ago, MillerTime said:

None of these players are going to say they want their still employed coaches fired to the media. Only bad results if the coach doesn’t get fired.

 

Just now, Iggles25 said:

What are they supposed to say?

'Meatballs is clueless, and we won in spite of his ineptitude and stubbornness.'

They're going to run this trainwreck back with maybe just replacing the DC.

Fantastic.

I agree.  Just sharing the stuff as I come across it.  No one in an organization should be bashing anyone publicly in the media.  That's unprofessional.  You keep conversations internal and show a positive united front to the media and public.

2 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Analytics.  I've seen a lot of people say that they are relying too much on it, the coaches don't have control they are being told what to do by the analytics guys, or even some saying they are making decisions "entirely" on analytics.

Someone help explain this in detail with examples. I get that the analytics are used for things like going for it on 4th down depending on field position, going for 2, things like that.

However, there have been so many videos and breakdowns online this year showing awful mistakes the Eagles are making that include stats that show where they're failing.  So it's hard to reconcile this idea that they are driven by analytics...if that were the case then why wouldn't the analytics drive them to call plays to Hurts strengths?  To dial up plays to adjust to the blitz?  To throw shorter passes in slants and the middle of the field?  To bench Bradberry since teams target him and have more success throwing to who he's covering than others?  

There are analytics that show what the Eagles are doing wrong and should be done differently, so how are they being run by analytics?  What am I missing?

The route concepts on blitzes and short yardage situations says it all. They damn near go verticals every time.

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

 

I agree.  Just sharing the stuff as I come across it.  No one in an organization should be bashing anyone publicly in the media.  That's unprofessional.  You keep conversations internal and show a positive united front to the media and public.

Appreciate you posting the interviews. Wasn't directing that frustration your way.

Just get the feeling nothing substantial is going to change this offseason. Then next year they make a change with a likely less talented pool of coaching candidates to choose from.

2 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Appreciate you posting the interviews. Wasn't directing that frustration your way.

Just get the feeling nothing substantial is going to change this offseason. Then next year they make a change with a likely less talented pool of coaching candidates to choose from.

I can't imagine there aren't big changes even if Siri stays.  There's no way Lurie is happy with this collapse.  A lot of problems, a lot of blame to go around.  It always starts with the Head Coach.  

Doug was forced to fire his coordinators to try and get things together and the following season they had a losing season and he was fired.  I am curious the way Lurie thinks, does he look back on that and think why wait just fire Siri now?  Does he insist he make changes to the coordinators again?  People have debated for years how things are really done inside the front office.  

Sirianni is back.

 

 

 

As he should be

Hmm.

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Sirianni is back.

 

 

 

Wouldn’t he need to reach out to potential coordinators to present the plan today? This doesn’t mean he is back.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Well, he looked serious.  But I guess way too early for those types of questions either way.

When Sirianni throws Michael Clay under the bus to Lurie 

Just now, MillerTime said:

Wouldn’t he need to reach out to potential coordinators to present the plan today? This doesn’t mean he is back.

 

I think he was given the Doug offer of you can keep your job but fire your staff and we get new coordinators in.

10 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

A head coach in private blaming everything on his coordinators is so Fing lame. I know in the NFL coordinators get fired when things go bad, but it's up to ownership to see through that.

Sirianni should throw them under the bus.  They both royally sucked. 

But Sirianni should be right there under the bus with them.  Fletch and Hurts can give all the endorsement they want, but they can't rah-rah their way past how epically awful this team performed the second half of the season.  It went spiraling for what, close to two months?  And Sirianni couldn't do/didn't do a damn thing about it?