38 minutes ago, paco said:

So that means Kelce will be……

A Chief 

GIven that CJGJ will probably cost relatively cheap, if the Eagles sign him I wonder if that means they plan to pursue a higher priced LB or if they will be signing two safeties. If there was one position I figured they'd plan to throw some money at during the offseason it's safety. Makes me wonder if they plan to add another safety. Or if they figure since Winfield will get tagged a guy like McKinney will cost too much for how they evaluate him and they have CJGJ just as good as the 3rd or 4th best safety of the FA class, but can be had for much cheaper.

I’m sure the talk of the combine about CJGJ is totally from Howie. Definitely not agent driven at all. 

4 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Kalen King has had a disastrous offseason. A 4.6 40 after getting toasted all week at the Senior Bowl? Yikes. 

He was bad all year for PSU 

55 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

 

Id be disappointed to pass on guys like Curl and Elliott or even better, for Gardner-Johnson.

He is too small and doesnt hold up health-wise at safety. His INTs were more luck than skill, and in every other statistical category he was shown to be a lesser safety than Jalen Mills. Hes a very mediocre player who threw a temper tantrum after he over-valued himself, and trashed Philly on the way out. 

 

7 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

He was bad all year for PSU 

yeah. His stock was already on its way down. Senior Bowl was an opportunity he needed and he had a bad week there too. Now this. Hes looking like a UDFA at this point.

13 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Id be disappointed to pass on guys like Curl and Elliott or even better, for Gardner-Johnson.

He is too small and doesnt hold up health-wise at safety. His INTs were more luck than skill, and in every other statistical category he was shown to be a lesser safety than Jalen Mills. Hes a very mediocre player who threw a temper tantrum after he over-valued himself, and trashed Philly on the way out. 

 

Sign CJGJ and Curl and call it a day

10 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yep.  Healthy people.   You sure McPhearson was better than Roby?   I will elaborate and say that the HOPE was that McPhearson was better than Roby, but that the evidence of how good McPhearson actually was is highly debatable.   Equally, I think Maddox is over valued around here.   He's servicable at best, and certainly not a stud nickel.    Equally, they brought back an aging Slay... at extra money and an aging Bradberry at extra money and limited their moves elsewhere.   At this point, Slay and Bradberry were much more names than the players that they had been.  Slay, clearly better than Bradberry, but neither approaching what they were, and neither worth their cost.

I'm sure McPhearson was more familiar with our defense, the system, and his peers in the backfield. As far as Roby --- talk about over-valued ... I understand Goodrich wasn't up to the task early last season, Ricks was forced to play nickel without having gotten any experience in TC or preseason in that role and that at one point Bradberry was asked to move inside. But none of that meant Roby was anything special. He was more experienced covering slot receivers than that list of fill-ins, but with his lack of familiarity with the rest of the defense, he didn't do much better. So yeah ... I'm confident McPhearson would have been better for us than anybody else we had to use last year after Maddox was lost. 

10 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Equally, they brought back an aging Slay... at extra money and an aging Bradberry at extra money and limited their moves elsewhere.   At this point, Slay and Bradberry were much more names than the players that they had been.  Slay, clearly better than Bradberry, but neither approaching what they were, and neither worth their cost.

 

You're going on and on about something I never brought up. But since you brought it up, age means little to me. Some of you really freak out about players that are 30 or over. Whatever .. We all saw Bradberry go from All Pro in 2022 to bad in 2023. Even people that really buy into that "wrong side of 30" crap wouldn't predict that big a drop in performance in one season. Personally, I have to believe that since he wasn't playing for a contract, his motivation waned. But I can't help remember how many people on the EMB after last season ended were saying they'd rather keep Bradberry than Slay (it wasn't expected the Eagles would pay both guys top CB money). So they kept the "fan favorite" (Bradberry) and Slay (after CJGJ got his feelings hurt) and Slay turned out to be the most reliable CB we had. The good news is that after Slay had surgery, we were able to get Ringo some work and he was solid as well. 

This subject wasn't about how much we are paying or overpaying players. It was about draft picks and whether or not they are working out. There were plenty of player drafted over the last 12 years that aren't here. I was pointing out that that some of the players that are here (that we drafted) can play (obviously Maddox has struggled with injuries). So if the subject is we need to draft better than we have over the 12 year span, it's reasonable to argue that the more recent drafts have been more successful. Sometimes the arguments about draft returns gets a little carried away and act like free agency and trades aren't viable ways to build a team. In 2021 we drafted McPhearson and then later were able to sign S. Nelson to a 1-year deal. Nelson was solid for us. We addressed the position in the draft and in free agency. In 2022, we were able to sign Bradberry who played as one of the top CBs that season. Then last year we drafted Ringo, who IMO, should have played another year at college. So it wasn't a big surprise he wasn't ready to compete for a starting role last season even with the players we had struggling. But he did develop enough to get a few starts late last season and showed promise. 

IMO, it's wat too early to lump current players into the "failed draft pick" category just because they aren't in the HOF after 1-3 seasons. 

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

 

I would be surprised. It seemed like CJGJ really tried hard to burn that bridge on the way out. 

His ability to play nickel and safety make him valuable in our scheme. He had the same injury and missed the same amount of time as Maddox last year. I think it's more likely the Eagles try to rework a deal with Maddox heavily based on incentives ... and even that probably isn't likely. 

Who knows what Fangio thinks of the DBs

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Id be disappointed to pass on guys like Curl and Elliott or even better, for Gardner-Johnson.

He is too small and doesnt hold up health-wise at safety. His INTs were more luck than skill, and in every other statistical category he was shown to be a lesser safety than Jalen Mills. Hes a very mediocre player who threw a temper tantrum after he over-valued himself, and trashed Philly on the way out. 

 

They need at least 3 safeties. Could draft both, sign CJGJ and still need to bring in more guys to compete.

42 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

They need at least 3 safeties. Could draft both, sign CJGJ and still need to bring in more guys to compete.

You’re not going to get any more than one safety in free agency, and it’s quite possible they don’t draft one at all.  Blankenship and Brown are both locks for the 2024 roster, and at least one will be a starter in all likelihood.

Wouldn't be shocked to see Elliot follow Fangio over from Miami

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10111161-7-under-the-radar-nfl-free-agents-who-could-be-steals-on-the-2024-market.amp.html

 

Very nice list. 

I'd be thrilled with a free agency consisting of Dodson, Fuller, Runyan, and Al-Shaair

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10111161-7-under-the-radar-nfl-free-agents-who-could-be-steals-on-the-2024-market.amp.html

 

Very nice list. 

I'd be thrilled with a free agency consisting of Dodson, Fuller, Runyan, and Al-Shaair

Been on the Azeez Al-Shaair train for a while. Really like how he plays 

13 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Also, why the hell would the Eagles June 1 Byard anyway?

Caplan is washed. No more inside sources + lack of understanding of modern football.

7 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

You’re not going to get any more than one safety in free agency, and it’s quite possible they don’t draft one at all.  Blankenship and Brown are both locks for the 2024 roster, and at least one will be a starter in all likelihood.

If they are counting on Brown right now, they are fools. He's not in the picture until he's healthy. 

The Eagles $40 million in cap space sounds good but..

 

Fluid situation but my sources tell me the combine workouts well continue today. 

 

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

At least Staley isn’t a consultant (but still there to 2nd guess an inexperienced DC)…

35 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

At least Staley isn’t a consultant (but still there to 2nd guess an inexperienced DC)…

This seems familiar 

So not Tampa?

20 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

So not Tampa?

Im still waiting for the first time a free agent says they wanted to come here to play with Hurts.

Im also very, very interested in Mike Evans despite his age. Hes still fast, and with his size, he can stand to lose a step and still be a fantastic possession WR for a long time. Similar to Larry Fitzgerald. Heck, he would become what AJ Brown is right now. 

I suppose things are pretty smoothed over with the AJ Brown situation right now. But Im still ok with an AJ trade and replacing him with Evans. And Id love Evans to say he wants to play with Hurts. Hurts is a guy who has shown willingness to throw it up in double and triple coverage to his trusted playmaker. Evans may be even better at that than AJ Brown is. And has more speed too.