12 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

Because that’s the reason the ball is smaller. I didn’t say it doesn’t matter. They have their own disadvantages compared to men’s game that their league may try to compensate for. 

I mean they used to have women playing 6 on 6 and 3 players on each team could only play a half of the court lol. 

Smaller ball, bigger ball I still believe the women would be better shooters, have better handles, passing, and footwork compared to men’s college in the 60s. 

Cool story.  

I've been listening and I haven't heard that. It's been all "His leadership is really going to be missed."

15 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

What I find more interesting is the people hating on Kaitlin Clark for a more obvious reason. No one on here, but she's getting a lot of hate and it's easy to see why.

That's today's society.  No matter who you are and what you accomplish, there will always be a not-small group of bashers.  They're unimportant.

Just now, Sack that QB said:

I've been listening and I haven't heard that. It's been all "His leadership is really going to be missed."

Yea, Giglio. 

Hugh and their idiot producer just said because the Eagles collapsed last year and Kelce was apart of the locker room means they don't listen to him anymore.

Jason Kelce probably has one more good year in his body but him retiring (if he does), is best for the team. They've gotta see what they have in Cam Jurgens. The OL is worse without Kelce but it's time for Jurgens to make this his OL. 

You also have to think the Eagles are coming back from the combine rubbing their hands together thinking about the talent they just saw. 

🤣

 

 

We have replacement for Kelce and Cox already in place: Carter and Jurgens.

Gonna miss Cox and Kelce, but we’re fine there.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

That makes just Lane and BG the last of the old guard from 52 right?

10 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Jason Kelce probably has one more good year in his body but him retiring (if he does), is best for the team. They've gotta see what they have in Cam Jurgens. The OL is worse without Kelce but it's time for Jurgens to make this his OL. 

You also have to think the Eagles are coming back from the combine rubbing their hands together thinking about the talent they just saw. 

How can anyone honestly say the best center in the game and one of the best of all time still playing at that high level is serving the best interest of the team by retiring so an unknown can make it his team

BG needs to retire too.

59 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

Hmmm seems you just don’t respect women’s basketball and I’m guessing you don’t watch it much since you only tuned in to see her break the record… why’d you tune in if you believe her record doesn’t matter since she’s a woman? 
 

Based on what were men good in college basketball in 1967? And how do you prove their relative skill compared to other men, versus the competition of women playing today? 
 

Pete: .438% shooting on 38 shots per game to score 44ppg 5 rebounds and 6 assists per game  77% career free throw shooter  

Clark: .465% shooting with 19.9 shots per game to score 28ppg and 7 assists and 8 rebounds per game. 85% career free throw shooter.   

Imagine her shooting 38 times per game lmao.  Even when they’re both standing still with zero defense, she’s a better shooter than him lol. Pete averaged over 2x more free throw attempts per game as well with 14 lmao. 

 

 

 

I think the defensive side of play has to be considered when you look at shooting percentage.  I think the difference is somewhat counter-intuitive.  Pistol Pete played in an era with no 3 point shots.  He was probably taking shots that were more contested.  I don't think Clark's percentage would be as high playing against bigger players. NBA players in the 1970s still were about the same size as now.  The average was around 6'6".  It's nearly a foot more the average division 1 womens player.  

2 minutes ago, devpool said:

That makes just Lane and BG the last of the old guard from 52 right?

Elliott, Lovato, Ward are still around too. I think that's it though. 

2 minutes ago, devpool said:

That makes just Lane and BG the last of the old guard from 52 right?

Wow, Rick Lovato catching strays today.

Better order your Kelce jersyes now, because they will be impossible to get here soon.

The Eagles will/should use one of their first 3 picks on an OL.  Either 22, 50, or 53 as it currently sits.  Even if we believe Johnson-Steen-Jurgens-Dickerson-Mailata is the starting 5 on the OL, all of these guys miss time with injury and there simply isn't any depth there.  

I would imagine Driscoll and Opeta can be brought back, but neither of those guys are starting-caliber OL for any length of time.  Need to keep drafting quality reinforcements. 

12 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

How can anyone honestly say the best center in the game and one of the best of all time still playing at that high level is serving the best interest of the team by retiring so an unknown can make it his team

I agree. If he is retiring, as an Eagles fan, don't know how you could be anything other than at least a little sad today. I know I am. My all-time favorite Eagle and it's not even close for me. Not to mention that the guy still plays at an All Pro level.

30 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

If we sign him, I would assume it’s for starter’s money. 

I would too and I'm ok with not counting on Steen to beat some lesser player for a starting job. 

I'm already iffy about Jergens. If rather have a known commodity starting at guard next to him. 

15 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

🤣

 

 

1 hour ago, GoEagles614 said:

Thats not the argument. You’re creating your own argument after responding to my post that has a different premise. 

No you're just wrong, and made a dumb statement, so you'd only like to view this discussion through shooting percentage as if that's the only measure of basketball skill. It's not.

7 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

How can anyone honestly say the best center in the game and one of the best of all time still playing at that high level is serving the best interest of the team by retiring so an unknown can make it his team

Jurgens isn't an unknown. He was drafted in the 2nd round to be the successor of Jason Kelce. He showed out in the preseason of his rookie year and looked like a Kelce clone while playing Center. The team won't be as good when Kelce retires, BUT it puts them on the path to Jurgens becoming the Eagles Center for the next decade. Jurgens is going in to year 3 and has yet to play where he was drafted to play. He's the weak link at RG because he's not a RG. He could be a strength at his natural position. I'd rather Kelce walks away, while he still can, and healthy as he's stated he wants to instead of coming back one year more while his body refuses to recover and it effects his play.

Seeing team greats walk away sucks. It's never fun when your favorite players have to retire or they finish for another team. 

1 hour ago, GoEagles614 said:

The only players you can bring up are legends. Once again, not the premise of the argument. But go off lol. 
 

The OP says her record shouldn’t be compared to his because he played against men, and she played versus no competition. 
 

My premise is how do you decipher the competition level of Pete playing in 1967 against other men versus Caitlyn playing against women today. Only you bozos keep talking about men playing head to head all men versus all women. Lol. 
 

 

Aren't you talking about Caitlin Clark?

Go look at an average female college basketball player.  They aren't even close to Clark.  

 

And I said I was specifically responding to the statement comparing the skill of modern women vs men in 1967.

6 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The Eagles will/should use one of their first 3 picks on an OL.  Either 22, 50, or 53 as it currently sits.  Even if we believe Johnson-Steen-Jurgens-Dickerson-Mailata is the starting 5 on the OL, all of these guys miss time with injury and there simply isn't any depth there.  

I would imagine Driscoll and Opeta can be brought back, but neither of those guys are starting-caliber OL for any length of time.  Need to keep drafting quality reinforcements. 

By August we will have an addition guard and an additional center that we put notable assets into, whether It be day 2 picks or salary cap %

5 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Better order your Kelce jersyes now, because they will be impossible to get here soon.

Not giving another penny to Fanatics. F that company.

11 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Wow, Rick Lovato catching strays today.

I guess I just said F all of the ST group cause I forgot Elliott and Ward too lol