2 hours ago, judunno said:

You live to troll lol. Nobody said anything about Dickerson being a bad pick. 

Nah people love to complain about the misses and ignore the hits

plenty of bellyaching about taking another scratch and dent bargain bin injured guy at that time

2 hours ago, MillerTime said:

Broncos cap situation is interesting. They have -16M this year with only 23 players scheduled to be on the roster next year. They are projected $110M in cap space next year. I doubt Surtain will even want to be there. Simmons would most likely be cut. They can’t even start the rebuild this season. Fire sale and the 1st pick next year seems inevitable.

I'm shocked they are going to release Russ.  Given all of that dead cap, it actually SAVES them money to keep him on the roster if only as a backup to other players.  Combine that with the fact that although he wasn't a great QB last year, he didn't play terribly.  They were worse when he was benched.  

Sean Payton went to Denver to blow that thing up.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

If there ever was a time to try to fleece them for Surtain, it's now. Off the top of my head, I don't know what Slay's Bradberry's cap hit is but I know it's not pretty, however I'd do pick 22 and Slay Bradberry for Surtain and a conditional. 

FYP

But I'd absolutely make that trade.  There's going to be quite a bit of competition for Surtain if he really is available.  Broncos are going to want picks in return because they can't pay anybody anything.

 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Apparently there was a lot of talk at the combine about Washington making a strong push to trade to #1 to bring Caleb Williams home.

That would be great.

That will take quite a haul, and if Williams is a bust it will set that franchise back a decade.

I love it.  Go Command the offseason!

 

Also, I was thinking about Kelce's retirement.  

I hate that he's leaving, but I love the timing.  He never went downhill.  We don't have to watch the slow, steady, painful decline of a franchise icon like we had to do with Jason Peters.  He leaves as an all pro, and there's absolutely no doubt that he will be in the hall of fame in 2026.  

Ok, so one week before FA. My prediction:

The Eagles sign:

* Jordyn Brooks. They will want one solid, young LB to play here for the next three years. He played fairly well despite suffering an ACL tear late in the 2022 season. He potentially can be a good three-down LB.

* Jordan Fuller. He is a solid, if unspectacular safety with experience in the Fangio system and other two-high systems. 

* Cedrick Wilson. It was between him and Noah Brown. I gave the edge to a Wilson due to speed. Both have familiarity with Kellen Moore.

* The last of the RBs on the market. I assume the Eagles will let the RB market come to them. I could even see them sign a guy like Zack Moss and then take an injury special in JK Dobbins, whom the team nearly drafted over Hurts. Gainwell keeps his third down role and then we draft a middle round RB. If we don’t play the RB market in FA, I could see a trade for  Dameon Pierce.

* I’m not sure what to make of cornerback. I’m inclined to let Kelee Ringo take his lumps this year or compete with a high-round pick. It’s imperative to add a quality cornerback prospect as both a hedge against Ringo and to replace Slay in 2025. I’m not sure there’s a good FA that fits the bill.

* The Eagles re-sign Opeta. Boring, but he’s functional.

The Eagles lose: Swift, Cox (retirement), Morrow, Cunningham, Driscoll. I still think Bradberry is gone, but maybe he just fits what Fangio wants since he’s so smart in zone coverage and switch coverage. 

4 minutes ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

I'm shocked they are going to release Russ.  Given all of that dead cap, it actually SAVES them money to keep him on the roster if only as a backup to other players.  Combine that with the fact that although he wasn't a great QB last year, he didn't play terribly.  They were worse when he was benched.  

Sean Payton went to Denver to blow that thing up.

 

 

One thing to consider... if Wilson is on the roster 3/18, 2025 becomes fully guaranteed.    So you are stuck paying a base salary of 17 million this year and 37 million next year on a malcontent.

 

So short term, sure, it's less on the cap.   But if you don't make the move you are throwing $54 million MORE at a player you want to move on from.  When I get on my soapbox about cap flexibility, this is why.

Big Russ on vet minimum is a steal 

17 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

I would have liked Kelce as a backup Center and starting FB.  Cheap contract,  which becomes expensive if Kelce starts.  Vet minimum + $1M a game as a starting Center, or any game where he plays Center.  Kelce gets TDs as FB.     In the future,  the same type of thing for Lane.  Backup OT and Blocking TE who gets TDs.  

The players that people like are the OL more than whoever the RB is this year.  I'd rather Kelce and Lane scoring TDs than some generic RB or WR or TE.   Getting Kelce and Lane TDs would get them into the hall faster and the people would want Kelce and Lane in the hall faster.

I can never tell if you're serious or just an all-time troll.  

 

2 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Big Russ on vet minimum is a steal 

His best bet is probably to go to Minnesota.  The division is pretty open and the Vikings have decent skill players on offense.  

25 minutes ago, paco said:

One thing to consider... if Wilson is on the roster 3/18, 2025 becomes fully guaranteed.    So you are stuck paying a base salary of 17 million this year and 37 million next year on a malcontent.

 

So short term, sure, it's less on the cap.   But if you don't make the move you are throwing $54 million MORE at a player you want to move on from.  When I get on my soapbox about cap flexibility, this is why.

They are not stupid for making the decision.  They are stupid for hiring a coach that exacerbated the situation last season.  

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

They are not stupid for making the decision.  They are stupid for hiring a coach that exacerbated the situation last season.  

They’re pretty stupid for hiring Rodgers guy just to end up with Russ, too

1 hour ago, GoEagles614 said:

Trying to take the Hurts goatee huh 

 

i really don’t get the Falcons. Why waste your time pursuing Cousins? The guy is 35. They need a long term fix at QB. The guy is coming off an Achilles at 35. Trade up and get your QB of the future or take one where you’re drafting. Cousins improves them if he’s back to his old self following the injury, which is no guarantee, but it’s not like he makes them a contender. Cousins is not some superstar QB.

28 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

 

 

If the Eagles drafted a guard in round 2, that pretty much is admitting defeat that they did a poor job projecting Steen to guard. I suppose that could put him in play as the backup swing tackle and potential RT of the future, but his arm length is a problem. 

15 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

i really don’t get the Falcons. Why waste your time pursuing Cousins? The guy is 35. They need a long term fix at QB. The guy is coming off an Achilles at 35. Trade up and get your QB of the future or take one where you’re drafting. Cousins improves them if he’s back to his old self following the injury, which is no guarantee, but it’s not like he makes them a contender. Cousins is not some superstar QB.

It's a move that winning organizations like Atlanta make.

Notable

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

If the Eagles drafted a guard in round 2, that pretty much is admitting defeat that they did a poor job projecting Steen to guard. I suppose that could put him in play as the backup swing tackle and potential RT of the future, but his arm length is a problem. 

Maybe. Or it's a deep O line class and they love drafting O linemen. They drafted Dickerson to be Kelce's replacement then he became LG. Driscoll is meh, so maybe they view Steen as the backup and swing player. Maybe they want to load up on O line talent since Kelce retired, Jurgens will be a first time starter and be prepared if Lane gets injured again. They also just like scouting O lineman.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

If the Eagles drafted a guard in round 2, that pretty much is admitting defeat that they did a poor job projecting Steen to guard. I suppose that could put him in play as the backup swing tackle and potential RT of the future, but his arm length is a problem. 

I think they always drafted Steen as a hybrid, but mainly as injury insurance for Lane. Which is why I didn't like the pick. It always felt like a tweener pick. I'd rather they have just drafted someone who has long term starting potential at either position. He always felt like a super sub pick to me. Not saying he can't become a starting RG, but I don't think they drafted him thinking "Wow, we love this guy at RG, he's going to be a stud there." I think it was more of "This is a contending window, this guy can move around the line and fill in for us at multiple positions and maybe he could become a starter if he develops." When you draft I think you should be drafting guys you project to be stud starters. Even if they aren't versatile.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Ok, so one week before FA. My prediction:

The Eagles sign:

* Jordyn Brooks. They will want one solid, young LB to play here for the next three years. He played fairly well despite suffering an ACL tear late in the 2022 season. He potentially can be a good three-down LB.

Man, I would love Jordyn Brooks. I don't care if we go cheap on other spots. He brings a physicality we don't have.

4 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Maybe. Or it's a deep O line class and they love drafting O linemen. They drafted Dickerson to be Kelce's replacement then he became LG. Driscoll is meh, so maybe they view Steen as the backup and swing player. Maybe they want to load up on O line talent since Kelce retired, Jurgens will be a first time starter and be prepared if Lane gets injured again. They also just like scouting O lineman.

They didn’t draft Dickerson to replace Kelce. 

 

Just now, ManuManu said:

If the Eagles drafted a guard in round 2, that pretty much is admitting defeat that they did a poor job projecting Steen to guard. I suppose that could put him in play as the backup swing tackle and potential RT of the future, but his arm length is a problem. 

How is that your take?  Steen was a rookie that played limited snaps.  He was a 3rd round pick.  He didn't play terribly.  He could very well end up starting and play well.  The Eagles have no depth behind their starters.  Driscoll and Opeta are free agents.  Even if Kelce wasn't retiring they needed to add depth at O-line.   Adding depth in a draft where o-line is the deepest position is smart.  

1 hour ago, paco said:

One thing to consider... if Wilson is on the roster 3/18, 2025 becomes fully guaranteed.    So you are stuck paying a base salary of 17 million this year and 37 million next year on a malcontent.

Valid, but given their cap hell, if I'm in charge of the Broncos, I'm letting it ride this next season, then moving on from him next year with a much more palatable dead cap.  Best case scenario is that he plays well this season and then maybe you can trade him to some one who would be willing to give you a pick or two in return. 

All that, of course, depends on whether you view Russ as a malcontent.  If he's a malcontent then it's probably a good idea to move on ASAP.

$89 in dead cap is insane.  You can barely field a team with what they have to work with.