6 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Damar Hamlin about to be first ever B2B comeback player of the year 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You think I’m joking, but you know it’s possible

It’s literally not since he didn’t win 

2 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Am i alone in find those huge butts not appealing?

No, butt yes.

29 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I'm afraid he is too small for his playing style to not kill him in the NFL.

He is just as good in coverage as he can come downhill. 184 is a fine weight for a slot. 

I did a mock draft last night and had Quinyon Mitchell & Amarius Mims available. I know we all would prefer CB, but who do you think Howie takes there? Eagles fandom would probably riot, but I really think he would take the OT over the CB there, even if the CB is very talented

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It’s literally not since he didn’t win 

25 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Check the listing you posted... without cutting him, they keep him around and pay the full $9.6M this year AND still have the $5.5M next season in dead cap hit.   By cutting him now, the dead cap for next season accelerates to this year, but the salary for this year goes away.  That's the difference and where he's getting his numbers.   

He's adding this year's cap number ($9.6M) and next year's dead cap number ($5.5M).   So, you are both right.   You are focused on the savings for 2024, while he's looking at the "savings" for 2024 AND 2025.     By cutting Maddox, they are saving $1.95M this year AND the $5.5M dead for next year.  (A total of $7.45M over the two seasons.) 

Yup, you’re right, I forgot about the void years. Full disclosure I was (and still am) keeping a toddler with a 101 fever entertained so I was going by memory and was thinking of a different contract (Pryor?).  

Some decent oft-injured DBs hitting the market. Could be some good bargains for us. 

I wouldn’t hate Tre White on a 1 year cheap deal. He couldn’t be worse than Bradberry last year & I doubt he’d be commanding big money

If they give a new contract to Graham that opens up a slot for them to do this. Also why they might end up bringing Maddox back. 

1 hour ago, paco said:

Ummm, how do you figure?

If he plays out the year and we dont resign him next year. His cap numbers are $9.7m this year and $5.2m next year (being the prorated signing bonuses all accelerated into a single year), so 14.9m in total. By cutting him its only a hit of $7.8m (being the $5.2m referred earlier which gets moved from next years cap to this years cap + pro-rated signing bonus for this year) to this years cap and nothing next year. So net savings are about $7.1m which is the $1.9m this year plus the $5.2m to the cap next year. 

Eagles know how McPhearson looked as a nickel and how well he has recovered from his injury last summer.  Still on a rookie contract.  Will probably get first look at the nickel.  Rodgers, if ever reinstated would probably be the first off the bench as the CB room is currently situated.  
 

Howie looks like he is putting a dent into the salary cap hits from expiring or almost expiring players that will impact this year’s and next’s salary cap cushion.  We always knew that the piper was coming on the Kelce, Cox and Graham void years.  

Imagine being a Bills fan and this is the cherry on top of all the other moves today 

If 

8 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Eagles know how McPhearson looked as a nickel and how well he has recovered from his injury last summer.  Still on a rookie contract.  Will probably get first look at the nickel.  Rodgers, if ever reinstated would probably be the first off the bench as the CB room is currently situated.  
 

Howie looks like he is putting a dent into the salary cap hits from expiring or almost expiring players that will impact this year’s and next’s salary cap cushion.  We always knew that the piper was coming on the Kelce, Cox and Graham void years.  

If I’m reading it correctly Eagles are set to have 73 mil in cap space next year

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/cap/2025/

2 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

If 

If I’m reading it correctly Eagles are set to have 73 mil in cap space next year

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/cap/2025/

Nevermind I think I read it wrong 

4 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

If 

If I’m reading it correctly Eagles are set to have 73 mil in cap space next year

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/cap/2025/

 

thats 2025. But the gif still applies 

1 hour ago, paco said:

Saving before deletion:

Year	Age	Base Salary	Prorated Signing Bonus	Per Game Roster Bonus	Workout Bonus		Guaranteed Salary		Cap Number	Cap %		Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension
														2021	25	$1,621,667	$1,168,744	$0	$0		$408,888		$2,790,411	1.4%
2022 📝	26	$1,035,000	$1,505,266	$0	$0		$1,035,000		$2,540,266	1.1%
2023 📝	27	$1,080,000	$2,559,266	$500,000	$150,000		$0		$4,053,972	1.7%
2024	28	$6,850,000	$2,559,266	$500,000	$150,000		$0		$9,676,913	3.7%		$7,719,535	$1,957,378
2025 📝	29	Void	$2,559,269	Void	Void		Void		$5,160,269	2.0%		$5,160,269	$0
2026	30	Void	$1,547,000	Void	Void		Void		$0	0.0%		$2,601,000	($2,601,000)
2027	31	Void	$1,054,000	Void	Void		Void		$0	0.0%		$1,054,000	($1,054,000)

 

Saves 2 million

it depends on what you mean by saves 2 million.  Over what time frame?

There is nothing the Eagles can do to avoid money they already paid to Maddox from hitting the cap at some point.  The Eagles cannot ever "save" that money.  It looks like the Eagles have somewhere between $7.5 and $8 M.

If Maddox is cut and gone,   the Eagles are forced to put the bonus money they paid Maddox onto the cap immediately.    7.5-8 M - now,  instead of now + later.

If Maddox wasn't cut and gone,  and his contract prevailed -  6.85 Million would have to be spent.   and 2.5 of the 7.5-8 would hit the cap. 

so, instead of spending 9-9.5 on Maddox This Year.   they have to spend 7.5-8 This Year.

This year,  approx 2 M was "saved" by cutting Maddox.

But the actual, overall, savings was approx Maddox's base salary this year of 6.85 M. 

It's a savings this year of $2 M and a future savings of $5 M.   Overall savings - $7M, this year $2M, future years $5M.

Most of these contracts are pretty much the same.

There's Base Salary and Prorated Signing Bonus.

Assuming the base salaries aren't guaranteed,  you can look at the base salaries for future years,  like 2024,  and add those numbers up.  Those are the actual savings you'll get for cutting the player.   And then there's prorated signing bonus,  you can never actually save that money.  It's either pay the piper now,  or push the can down the road.   The Eagles have been doing a lot of restructuring and a lot of void years,  trying to push the can down the road.    They're paying the piper now.   I'm not against paying the piper now. 

The Eagles have a lot of players who will have substantial cap hits when they retire or otherwise leave the Eagles,  cut or traded.

Kelce, Cox, Graham, Reddick.  Let's look at those.

Kelce retires.   That's $25 Million against the cap. maybe that could be split over 2 years,

Reddick has dead cap of $20 Million.  $14 M new money this year.

Lane Johnson has very little base salary,  and seems to get paid a series of option bonuses.  $45 M dead cap.

Hurts has little base salary,  is paid with yearly option bonuses.  Big cap hits going out 5-10 years. Over $100 M total.

Graham has $13 M dead cap, which might all hit this year.

Cox has 1.5 M of base salary, and $14 dead cap.

When Eagles the Eagles paid a lot of bonuses to over the years are no longer Eagles,  all those old bonuses are up on the cap.

There has been inflation,  this really isn't a big deal. 

 

 

 

This is awesome

 

 

4 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

it depends on what you mean by saves 2 million.  Over what time frame?

There is nothing the Eagles can do to avoid money they already paid to Maddox from hitting the cap at some point.  The Eagles cannot ever "save" that money.  It looks like the Eagles have somewhere between $7.5 and $8 M.

If Maddox is cut and gone,   the Eagles are forced to put the bonus money they paid Maddox onto the cap immediately.    7.5-8 M - now,  instead of now + later.

If Maddox wasn't cut and gone,  and his contract prevailed -  6.85 Million would have to be spent.   and 2.5 of the 7.5-8 would hit the cap. 

so, instead of spending 9-9.5 on Maddox This Year.   they have to spend 7.5-8 This Year.

This year,  approx 2 M was "saved" by cutting Maddox.

But the actual, overall, savings was approx Maddox's base salary this year of 6.85 M. 

It's a savings this year of $2 M and a future savings of $5 M.   Overall savings - $7M, this year $2M, future years $5M.

Most of these contracts are pretty much the same.

There's Base Salary and Prorated Signing Bonus.

Assuming the base salaries aren't guaranteed,  you can look at the base salaries for future years,  like 2024,  and add those numbers up.  Those are the actual savings you'll get for cutting the player.   And then there's prorated signing bonus,  you can never actually save that money.  It's either pay the piper now,  or push the can down the road.   The Eagles have been doing a lot of restructuring and a lot of void years,  trying to push the can down the road.    They're paying the piper now.   I'm not against paying the piper now. 

The Eagles have a lot of players who will have substantial cap hits when they retire or otherwise leave the Eagles,  cut or traded.

Kelce, Cox, Graham, Reddick.  Let's look at those.

Kelce retires.   That's $25 Million against the cap. maybe that could be split over 2 years,

Reddick has dead cap of $20 Million.  $14 M new money this year.

Lane Johnson has very little base salary,  and seems to get paid a series of option bonuses.  $45 M dead cap.

Hurts has little base salary,  is paid with yearly option bonuses.  Big cap hits going out 5-10 years. Over $100 M total.

Graham has $13 M dead cap, which might all hit this year.

Cox has 1.5 M of base salary, and $14 dead cap.

When Eagles the Eagles paid a lot of bonuses to over the years are no longer Eagles,  all those old bonuses are up on the cap.

There has been inflation,  this really isn't a big deal. 

 

 

And if we can get Hurts to play slot too, we can save a bunch of money there

3 hours ago, paco said:

But then why release in the first place?  It's only a savings of 2 million unless I'm missing something.  Cut him and bring him back at 1.5?

future cap accelerates to the present when a player leaves.

Maddox has a high salary for an Eagle.  like $6M.   not paying that is real savings, not just cap time shifting.   I wrote 1000 words on this just above this.

1 hour ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Damar Hamlin about to be first ever B2B comeback player of the year 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You think I’m joking, but you know it’s possible

Another dude the eagles drafted, let go for nothing, and excelled elsewhere.

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

He was my flyer target at safety last year.

No clue if this guy has real sources, but he did seem to break a couple of draft visits. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

No clue if this guy has real sources, but he did seem to break a couple of draft visits. 

Sources or not, that is obvious to me IMO

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

Sources or not, that is obvious to me IMO

I’ll happily post and take all reports of us being aggressive in FA as gospel, thankyouverymuch.