2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah I dont really love it anymore.

But it helps next years cap and eliminates the extension issue we would have with him as well. 

Assuming the defensive scheme doesn't change much (a very safe assumption), we have a replacement for Reddick lined up.  We have absolutely no options behind Sweat.

its coming

 

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah I dont really love it anymore.

We gain a mammoth amount of 2025 cap by trading him now. So sign a relatively equal talent FA with a backloaded deal and what we did was effectively buy a 2nd round pick and 2025 cap space for 5m$ in 2024

To be honest, I'm more concerned about the 2025 cap than this offseason.  

The Eagles have a lot of work to do and are not a smart SB favorite for next year.  2025...you've got Hurts contract kicking in, Devonta needs an extension, AJ Brown is going to be asking for more money and years by then, and all in the offseason in which the Eagles may be looking to pounce.

I would not make decisions with Reddick that are going to cost more money that year.  And Reddick will be very far off his 2022 form by then.

17 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Eagles would make up any cap loss in restructures. Extending Reddick would free up cap too.

They have no one to restructure besides Reddick 

2 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

We gain a mammoth amount of 2025 cap by trading him now. So sign a relatively equal talent FA with a backloaded deal and what we did was effectively buy a 2nd round pick and 2025 cap space for 5m$ in 2024

Yep.  We have decent cap room this year, but probably won't make a huge splash.  If the combined 2024 and 2025 cap impact is a huge savings, then they should do it and lose a little room this year.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Assuming the defensive scheme doesn't change much (a very safe assumption), we have a replacement for Reddick lined up.  We have absolutely no options behind Sweat.

If they sign Huff, suddenly they do.

But then its almost like whatever you sign Huff for, you add on another 5M to that this year.

Youll go from paying Sweat 5.8m this year, to paying the 5M to trade him plus about 15M for Huff. So that position becomes 15M more expensive. 

Just now, eagle45 said:

Yep.  We have decent cap room this year, but probably won't make a huge splash.  If the combined 2024 and 2025 cap impact is a huge savings, then they should do it and lose a little room this year.

Kelce retiring + Fletcher likely retiring makes 2025 much easier to navigate. I would expect Slay to be gone too.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

If they sign Huff, suddenly they do.

But then its almost like whatever you sign Huff for, you add on another 5M to that this year.

Youll go from paying Sweat 5.8m this year, to paying the 5M to trade him plus about 15M for Huff. So that position becomes 15M more expensive. 

It won’t be close to 15m$. Reddick, for example, on a 15m$ AAV contract had a 3.8m$ cap hit year one. And Howie probably could have shrunk that even more if he had to

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah I dont really love it anymore.

If the plan is trade Sweat/extend Reddick you get a net pickup in space. Trading Reddick and keeping Sweat is basically a wash, so from a cap perspective trading Sweat is the better option.

Eagles have plenty of cap space though to do what they want and Howie can structure any new deal to have minimal cap space. They should take the best offer. 

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Yep.  We have decent cap room this year, but probably won't make a huge splash.  If the combined 2024 and 2025 cap impact is a huge savings, then they should do it and lose a little room this year.

you think Howie isnt going for super bowl this year? you crazy.

Just now, Aerolithe_Lion said:

It won’t be close to 15m$. Reddick, for example, on a 15m$ AAV contract had a 3.8m$ cap hit year one. And Howie probably could have shrunk that even more if he had to

so, why are we signing Huff and losing money to trade Sweat, when we could just extend sweat?

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

If the plan is trade Sweat/extend Reddick you get a net pickup in space. Trading Reddick and keeping Sweat is basically a wash, so from a cap perspective trading Sweat is the better option.

Eagles have plenty of cap space though to do what they want and Howie can structure any new deal to have minimal cap space. They should take the best offer. 

Extending Reddick saves money. Keeping Sweat saves money. They can do both of those and save money twice.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

They have no one to restructure besides Reddick 

Jordan can get restructured/extended

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

so, why are we signing Huff and losing money to trade Sweat, when we could just extend sweat?

Because we can also get a 2 for sweat AND save 20m next year.

 

But the actual reason why it’s reported we’re entertaining the trade could be for a variety of reasons. Maybe he’s pulling a Barnett. He wants playing time assurances or his new fancy contract right now. Or maybe we’ve soured on him as he’s not progressing at the level his next contract would necessitate. But if the smoke says Howie is trying to get rid of him, then he won’t be an Eagle for long.

3 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

It won’t be close to 15m$. Reddick, for example, on a 15m$ AAV contract had a 3.8m$ cap hit year one. And Howie probably could have shrunk that even more if he had to

Agree with your first point. Disagree he could make it smaller. Only way would be to lower the signing bonus and I’m not sure a player would go for that in the free agency market.

1 minute ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Because we can also get a 2 for sweat AND save 20m next year.

 

But the actual reason why it’s reported we’re entertaining the trade could be for a variety of reasons. Maybe he’s pulling a Barnett. He wants playing time assurances or his new fancy contract right now. Or maybe we’ve soured on him as he’s not progressing at the level his next contract would necessitate. But if the smoke says Howie is trying to get rid of him, then he won’t be an Eagle for long.

We arent going to save any cap space. And if youre worried about saving 20M from the dead cap figure then I dont know what to tell you but thats a waste of time.

Sweat seems different than Reddick. Reddick I got the sense the Eagles really want to keep him, it's just a money thing, since he wants a new deal. But Sweat I think would be more about them not thinking he's worth the money than not being able to afford him. And I agree, he's not. No interest in paying him 20m next year.

2025/2026 cap for me is a little simpler.

If we're good in 2024, Sirianni keeps his job and we keep pushing the bill down the road.
If we're bad in 2024, Sirianni gets fired and there's a real chance we look to trade Hurts as long as he doesn't fall off a cliff. Keep in mind that the 2025 FA class at QB might have Dak, but the 2025 QB class has only one guy right now to be excited about (Sanders)

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

you think Howie isnt going for super bowl this year? you crazy.

I'm pretty understanding of their limitations and don't expect a huge splash.  But if Howie wants to go for a SB, he better find 2 corners, a safety, 2 linebackers, a WR, and a RB all this offseason who are capable of having big years next year.  That means half of them need to be big splash names and the other half need to be surprise hits.

They aren't going to trade both, I don't care how much they try to spin the incredibly disappointing Nolan Smith. Starting him in 2024 would be malpractice.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Agree with your first point. Disagree he could make it smaller. Only way would be to lower the signing bonus and I’m not sure a player would go for that in the free agency market.

I think he could finagle a player to take a major "fully guaranteed at signing” year 2 and 3 offseason bonuses in exchange for a smaller signing bonus. Depends on the myopsis of the player/agent

I’d welcome an off-season where we completely rebuild the defense getting rid of #24, Sweat, and Reddick if it gives us supreme draft capital and tremendous cap relief for the future. As much as I love Redick, I’m not sure we should extend him for more than 1 season right now, especially at over $25m per. For Sweat he’s younger, and has flashes, but if he’s commanding $20m+ I also am not sure he’s a big enough game changer to command that salary. 
 

We can use that money/picks and invest in 3-4 edge players and sign multiple starting LBers/Safeties. We can money ball this ish. 

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

They aren't going to trade both, I don't care how much they try to spin the incredibly disappointing Nolan Smith. Starting him in 2024 would be malpractice.

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