Any player for player trades you see Sweat being a part of?  Like Jaycee Horn

This is an important point.  The depth in the draft AT ALL positions is affecting the league overall. 

 

The Eagles consistently failed last year with Swift & Gainwell to close out games and grind out first downs when they needed to.

21 minutes ago, RLC said:

@just relax!!!

oooh an alliterative agnomen 

What about Julian Blackmon as S option?  

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yea, that doesn't make sense. 

People can make a somewhat logical case of trading both... but where it falls off the rails is where people try to spin Nolan Smith starting. Maybe the dude will be LT one day, but he looked like a high schooler playing against adults in 2023, and in college he wasn't even ultra productive. He was a guy who missed his last Georgia season due to injury and was never this 10 sack guy. It was always going to be about long-term potential with him, not immediate impact. He's not a guy ready to just take the reins. If he wasn't even that guy in college, I don't know why people would expect that in year two in the pros, when in year one he looked overmatched and barely played.

24 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

Gonna move Sweat for less than we gave up for Byard lol. 

If they can't get a second or high third for him they'd hold on until he hits free agency and take a comp pick.

21 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Mixon traded to Houston instead of getting released. 

He's gonna be a nice addition to that offense. My grandfather was originally from Houston and a huge Oilers fan. He was devastated when they moved to Nashville, and thrilled when the Texans were created. Unfortunately he passed before the new DeMeco era, but he'd have been pumped as hell watching Stroud and company last year with a bright future ahead of them.

8 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

More like 23-26 than 25-28.

No position truly ages well, but I'd be more confident in Reddick being an impact player from age 29-31 than Barkley being an impact player from age 27-29.

Also everyone disappeared down the stretch, I think you have to write that off. I actually think if Reddick started the season without a cast on his hand and if that loser Matt Patricia never took over and derailed the season, he probably finishes with 14/15 sacks again. In the meat if the season when he had the cast off and before Patricia ruined things, he looked just as good as he did in 2022.

Reddick was healthy down the stretch, so was Sweat, etc. And the defense was absolutely putrid. So doubt things would be much worse if both were traded.

Fangio isn't going to care about talent as much as fit, that is, if you're awful with top talent, the problem is probably scheme and fit.

So Reddick might be a great fit for some systems, but Fangio won't hesitate to ask Howie to move him if he doesn't see him as a good fit for what Fangio wants to do.

As Kelce pointed out, Peters and Cox were the two Eagles who would have thrived in any system, he implied (correctly) that his success was being in the right system (with the right OL coach). So it's important to find good players who are good fits, than overpay better players who are awkward fits.

The only current Eagles who I think would fit any scheme are Mailata, Dickinson, Lane and Carter.

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yea, that doesn't make sense. 

Smith is a first round pick.  Huff is coming off of a double digit sack year and a big ticket FA.  They should be starters.  

10 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I like this tampering period.

Allows for some mind-changing drama.

but how does it fit within the last 30 years?

1 hour ago, Swoop said:

Health aside, he likely will. This is a vastly better team.

My whole point was that I'd rather take Swift and possibly spend more elsewhere (maybe we get McKinney as an example if we go that route), but the Eagles felt comfortable. It is what it is.

I'll buy us both a virtual beer with the hopes that he proves to be worth every penny. Deal?

Deal.

3 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

What about Julian Blackmon as S option?  

Him and Nick would have both been there in 2020 together… he is coming off his best year wouldn’t be a bad move 

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

People can make a somewhat logical case of trading both... but where it falls off the rails is where people try to spin Nolan Smith starting. Maybe the dude will be LT one day, but he looked like a high schooler playing against adults in 2023, and in college he wasn't even ultra productive. He was a guy who missed his last Georgia season due to injury and was never this 10 sack guy. It was always going to be about long-term potential with him, not immediate impact. He's not a guy ready to just take the reins. If he wasn't even that guy in college, I don't know why people would expect that in year two in the pros, when in year one he looked overmatched and barely played.

But playing 3-4 OLB is a different ball game to playing 4-3 DE, Sweat is a more complete edge defender than Reddick, Huff and Smith because he can set an edge and stop the run, but he's a step slow to play 3-4 OLB where he might have to cover a TE on a passing down now and again. Whereas Smith is too light to play true 4-3 DE but has the speed and occasional coverage skills to play 3-4 OLB.

2 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Reddick was healthy down the stretch, so was Sweat, etc. And the defense was absolutely putrid. So doubt things would be much worse if both were traded.

Fangio isn't going to care about talent as much as fit, that is, if you're awful with top talent, the problem is probably scheme and fit.

So Reddick might be a great fit for some systems, but Fangio won't hesitate to ask Howie to move him if he doesn't see him as a good fit for what Fangio wants to do.

As Kelce pointed out, Peters and Cox were the two Eagles who would have thrived in any system, he implied (correctly) that his success was being in the right system (with the right OL coach). So it's important to find good players who are good fits, than overpay better players who are awkward fits.

The only current Eagles who I think would fit any scheme are Mailata, Dickinson, Lane and Carter.

I think we all need to write off the final 7 games on defense. It was awful, but there were a variety of factors that went into it. Have the same exact personnel last season with Fangio as DC, and I don't think it looks even remotely as bad down the stretch. It's probably moderately respectable. I consider the whole end of the season more of a fluke than anything. Have to be careful not to weigh small samples too much in sports.

 

1 minute ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

But playing 3-4 OLB is a different ball game to playing 4-3 DE, Sweat is a more complete edge defender than Reddick, Huff and Smith because he can set an edge and stop the run, but he's a step slow to play 3-4 OLB where he might have to cover a TE on a passing down now and again. Whereas Smith is too light to play true 4-3 DE but has the speed and occasional coverage skills to play 3-4 OLB.

I don't think the scheme is going to drastically change from Desai's. We'll see. Regardless, the point still stands. If you want to argue Reddick doesn't fit, I don't know that to be true, we'll see. But they still need guys who can rush the passer and proven they can play, and Smith hasn't remotely shown he can do that yet. So if you trade both, you have to bring in another quality edge rusher

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Smith is a first round pick.  Huff is coming off of a double digit sack year and a big ticket FA.  They should be starters.  

You don't put yourself in the position to rely on a guy who barely played year 1 and a guy who was never a 3 down starter as your starters while trading the other two proven guys for pennies on the dollar. That's what doesn't make sense. It's not good roster building. You are also going to have absolutely nothing behind them besides a 36 year old Graham and I guess Zack Baun. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

 

Okay already, geez. And are we supposed to be over the moon with this signing? 

2 hours ago, RLC said:

SCOOP from a beat reporter!

He WAS a helluva player but has had two knee injuries. If healthy he’s very good and position versatile as C or G.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

He did play very well in this system.. but hoping for Simmons as well if this happens 

15 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

People can make a somewhat logical case of trading both... but where it falls off the rails is where people try to spin Nolan Smith starting. Maybe the dude will be LT one day, but he looked like a high schooler playing against adults in 2023, and in college he wasn't even ultra productive. He was a guy who missed his last Georgia season due to injury and was never this 10 sack guy. It was always going to be about long-term potential with him, not immediate impact. He's not a guy ready to just take the reins. If he wasn't even that guy in college, I don't know why people would expect that in year two in the pros, when in year one he looked overmatched and barely played.

I don't agree with your assessment on Smith.  He looked good rushing the passer and often beat his man.  He didn't get washed out on blocks.  He did overrun plays at times.  My concern is his health not his talent.  The team is wasting him by letting him sit.  Play him on his rookie deal.  

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6 minutes ago, twistr said:

but how does it fit within the last 30 years?

Thirty years ago, this was the domain of newspapers and the 6-o'clock news.

The advent of social media has made information sharing instantaneous.  It's made it easier for teams and agents to get their message to their respective audiences.

Everything we see yesterday and today is written in pencil.  Cincy told the world that Mixon was available.  Less than 24 hours later, they get something (not nothing) in return.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

mclane

 

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Thirty years ago, this was the domain of newspapers and the 6-o'clock news.

The advent of social media has made information sharing instantaneous.  It's made it easier for teams and agents to get their message to their respective audiences.

Everything we see yesterday and today is written in pencil.  Cincy told the world that Mixon was available.  Less than 24 hours later, they get something (not nothing) in return.

crazy, some may even say the craziest.