2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Yea, for some reason, I thought Seumalo was easily replaceable but what we took for granted was just how steady and almost forgettable he was at RG. I say forgettable in the sense that if you aren't hearing an OL name, that's not always a bad thing during the game. He wasn't perfect, he wasn't dominant, but he was just damn steady. His main issue was he had a bit of the injury bug.

I've voiced my opinion quite a bit on how I feel a 3rd round pick be a starter sooner than later and at the very least, a solid contributor to the team in some capacity. 

Seumalo was picked at 79 in round Steen was taken at 65.

Rookie year he played 9 games as a rookie and started 4 and ended up playing 50% of the snaps.

Year 2 he played in 14 games but only started 2, snaps down to 29%

Year 3 is when Seumalo became a starter at LG. He got injured however and only played in 13 games, starting 9. Played 63% of the snaps. 

Year 4 he started every game and earned a new contract as a core piece of the Eagles OL. 

I'd be happy if Steen's career had the same trajectory. Their rookie years were much different. Steen started one game and only played 10% of the snaps (mainly that game). I was against Blankenship being handed the starting safety job in his 2nd year after just starting 4 games as an UDFA and I feel like a hypocrite saying Steen should be penciled in as the RG after just starting 1 game but he was drafted to be a starter so let's let him show that either he is or isn't.

Year 5 Seumalo played 9 games after being on IR mid season, year 6 Seumalo played 3 games before going on IR for the rest of the season, he's a player whose reputation has grown wildly in his absence.

The facts are that the Eagles gave up 14 less sacks in 2021 when Seumalo played 3 games, and 3 less last year against a tougher schedule when he was in Pittsburgh, than they did in 2022 when he played all 17 and I don't see anybody in here reminiscing about Nate Herbig.

Seumalo is a solid workaday bang average pro level guard, he's not Bruce Matthews.

Around the 4th or 5th Barkley td by week 2-3 the narrative gonna change. Guy is tier 1

 

12 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He didn't spend at LB or S.

yes. we all know that. that is not the definition of cap hell though. 

28 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Yea, for some reason, I thought Seumalo was easily replaceable but what we took for granted was just how steady and almost forgettable he was at RG. I say forgettable in the sense that if you aren't hearing an OL name, that's not always a bad thing during the game. He wasn't perfect, he wasn't dominant, but he was just damn steady. His main issue was he had a bit of the injury bug.

I've voiced my opinion quite a bit on how I feel a 3rd round pick be a starter sooner than later and at the very least, a solid contributor to the team in some capacity. 

Seumalo was picked at 79 in round Steen was taken at 65.

Rookie year he played 9 games as a rookie and started 4 and ended up playing 50% of the snaps.

Year 2 he played in 14 games but only started 2, snaps down to 29%

Year 3 is when Seumalo became a starter at LG. He got injured however and only played in 13 games, starting 9. Played 63% of the snaps. 

Year 4 he started every game and earned a new contract as a core piece of the Eagles OL. 

I'd be happy if Steen's career had the same trajectory. Their rookie years were much different. Steen started one game and only played 10% of the snaps (mainly that game). I was against Blankenship being handed the starting safety job in his 2nd year after just starting 4 games as an UDFA and I feel like a hypocrite saying Steen should be penciled in as the RG after just starting 1 game but he was drafted to be a starter so let's let him show that either he is or isn't.

Reason I don't get excited by the draft anymore is most rookies are "redshirted," either bench depth or practice squad.

They want an OL to get a year in Stoutland U and a summer in the weight room, I expect Steen to be much better, and Hennessy is better interior depth. And you know they're drafting one OL early. Jurgens is a better fit at C than RG, and even Kelce admits he slipped last season. Not worried about the OL unless Lane goes down.

I'll wait and see with the defense, I think less talent but better fits will result in a much better defense. The problem last year was as much scheme as talent, since it was easy to read, it was easy to pick on the weakest players.

So Huff, Baun, Nolan Smith can be the rotation in Reddick's position.

With all that money, and potential releasing of Sweat, do they trade Reddick for a legit DE to play ahead of Graham? There are no legit DEs left in free agency. Only one was 29 year old Danielle Hunter who signed yesterday.

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

So Huff, Baun, Nolan Smith can be the rotation in Reddick's position.

With all that money, and potential releasing of Sweat, do they trade Reddick for a legit DE to play ahead of Graham? There are no legit DEs left in free agency. Only one was 29 year old Danielle Hunter who signed yesterday.

Huh? What. Graham is a pass rush specialist who'll play 300 snaps at most.

Williams and Carter are the starting DEs, Ojomo will rotate in with them. On passing downs, Carter moves inside to DT.

If they add a 3-4 DE, it'll be later in the draft for depth.

ILB is the biggest need, and I think they'll look for someone in the middle rounds and add a veteran. Ideally you want someone with average speed, good size, agility and instincts, who can cover in a short area and read and react quickly against the run. OLBs tend to be the athletic LBs in a 3-4 scheme.

5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Huh? What. Graham is a pass rush specialist who'll play 300 snaps at most.

Williams and Carter are the starting DEs, Ojomo will rotate in with them. On passing downs, Carter moves inside to DT.

If they add a 3-4 DE, it'll be later in the draft for depth.

ILB is the biggest need, and I think they'll look for someone in the middle rounds and add a veteran. Ideally you want someone with average speed, good size, agility and instincts, who can cover in a short area and read and react quickly against the run. OLBs tend to be the athletic LBs in a 3-4 scheme.

Im calling Sweat a DE because he lined up with his hand on the ground, on the LOS most of the time. He isnt a stand up LB the way you are thinking in an old traditional 3-4 where both OLBs do that.

Hes basically a DE with DE size and thats what we need to replace to have someone to play in front of Graham. If Sweat is gone, Graham is the only DE on our roster. 

Graham is probably a DE on passing downs.  Something like Carter or Marlon T at nose, Graham at one DE spot and either Carter or Williams at the other DE spot.  Then the freshest or hottest OLBs.  Could be wrong but……

Just now, BigEFly said:

Graham is probably a DE on passing downs.  Something like Carter or Marlon T at nose, Graham at one DE spot and either Carter or Williams at the other DE spot.  Then the freshest or hottest OLBs.  Could be wrong but……

Funny thing is, most of graham's impact plays last year came when he lined up inside at DT. 

10 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

So Huff, Baun, Nolan Smith can be the rotation in Reddick's position.

With all that money, and potential releasing of Sweat, do they trade Reddick for a legit DE to play ahead of Graham? There are no legit DEs left in free agency. Only one was 29 year old Danielle Hunter who signed yesterday.

I think it's more likely that they try and replace Reddick with another OLB (albeit cheaper) or a combination of guys, I wonder if Seattle have tendered Darrell Taylor? and maybe someone like Bud Dupree on a one year deal to help season a mid rounder in the draft.

If they played tomorrow, the secondary is Slay and the best of Bradberry/Ringo  outside corners, McPhearson as the nickel. CJGJ and Blankenship at the Ss.  In three S looks, until Brown is healthy and ready, McCollum is probably playing the High S. 

2 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

I think it's more likely that they try and replace Reddick with another OLB (albeit cheaper) or a combination of guys, I wonder if Seattle have tendered Darrell Taylor? and maybe someone like Bud Dupree on a one year deal to help season a mid rounder in the draft.

But he plays more of that traditional Rush OLB role where we have a fairly high priced free agent signing in Huff, a 1st round pick in Nolan Smith, and then Baun.

How can they add more there? It seems hes already been replaced. 

Then again, maybe the do just go with more old traditional plain 3-4 looks and they have all of them.

Either way, it seems there is still a need for multiple DEs to be brought in if Sweat is gone. They only have Graham left then. In the case of a 3-4, you can say we have Carter and Williams, and Graham. Still need more players in that rotation. And you also need a backup NT. 

Seems any way you look at it, there is a lot of work to be done along the DL. 

42 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Huh?  He ‘fell’ in the draft because of injury concerns.  Also, he wasn’t good las season.

He fell in the draft because the position has been devalued around the league. He never missed a game or practice because of injury in college or his first NFL season. Now all of a a sudden, "he's always hurt. lol

 

https://www.on3.com/college/georgia-bulldogs/news/2022-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-explains-why-nakobe-dean-could-drop-second-round-georgia-bulldogs-devin-lloyd-linebacker/

1 minute ago, brkmsn said:

He fell in the draft because the position has been devalued around the league. He never missed a game or practice because of injury in college or his first NFL season. Now all of a a sudden, "he's always hurt. lol

 

https://www.on3.com/college/georgia-bulldogs/news/2022-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-explains-why-nakobe-dean-could-drop-second-round-georgia-bulldogs-devin-lloyd-linebacker/

wrong.

he had a shoulder injury that dropped him to the 3rd round.

26 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Reason I don't get excited by the draft anymore is most rookies are "redshirted," either bench depth or practice squad.

They want an OL to get a year in Stoutland U and a summer in the weight room, I expect Steen to be much better, and Hennessy is better interior depth. And you know they're drafting one OL early. Jurgens is a better fit at C than RG, and even Kelce admits he slipped last season. Not worried about the OL unless Lane goes down.

I'll wait and see with the defense, I think less talent but better fits will result in a much better defense. The problem last year was as much scheme as talent, since it was easy to read, it was easy to pick on the weakest players.

me neither, relying on the draft to fix the roster isnt a good idea especially if the players that we want get picked by other teams and we have no plan b, that's why it's better to just fill the needs through fa until we the players we drafted are actually good to take over.

 

5 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

He fell in the draft because the position has been devalued around the league. He never missed a game or practice because of injury in college or his first NFL season. Now all of a a sudden, "he's always hurt. lol

 

https://www.on3.com/college/georgia-bulldogs/news/2022-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-explains-why-nakobe-dean-could-drop-second-round-georgia-bulldogs-devin-lloyd-linebacker/

Was his chest injury before or after the draft?  

 

 

6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

But he plays more of that traditional Rush OLB role where we have a fairly high priced free agent signing in Huff, a 1st round pick in Nolan Smith, and then Baun.

How can they add more there? It seems hes already been replaced. 

Then again, maybe the do just go with more old traditional plain 3-4 looks and they have all of them.

Either way, it seems there is still a need for multiple DEs to be brought in if Sweat is gone. They only have Graham left then. In the case of a 3-4, you can say we have Carter and Williams, and Graham. Still need more players in that rotation. And you also need a backup NT. 

Seems any way you look at it, there is a lot of work to be done along the DL. 

First up one of the big problems with the D line last year is that we couldn't rotate like we did the year before.

Secondly I still think Latu (with luck) or Chop Robinson is pick 22, Robinson in particular has the size to play hand in the dirt and the speed to play OLB.

My grades:

Barkley: B.  Don't like the contract, but I'm doing my best to shut up about where else the money could have been spent and focus on the player.  He's a significant upgrade on offense in an offseason where we didn't even expect any upgrades on that side of the ball.

Huff: inc.  Range: A+ to D.  For now, I think A-.  Concerned about what this means for our first round pick in Nolan Smith.  But I'm intrigued if they have plans for them to play together.  I generally don't like on-field analytics, but edge rushers are so freaking expensive.  To get someone with his burst and win rate for a manageable contract...that's a creative way to address a highly premium position.  I like it.

CJGJ: A.  Just an all around move that makes sense and addresses a need.

Baun: B.  I'm grading THIS move; don't penalize it for the other LB move they haven't made.  He's a perfectly good scratch-off lottery ticket.  Don't bank on him, but there is no problem with taking this shot.

Parker: F-.  Won't contribute on ST.  Every catch will be a contested risk.  Will contribute to spacing problems on offense.  He's going to be a TE2 that doesn't block.  If we are lucky, he'll be part of the 1st round of cuts.  This is Julio Jones 2.0 without the great name.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

wrong.

he had a shoulder injury that dropped him to the 3rd round.

Wrong again. He supposedly injured his pec lifting weights before the combine. Rumors swirled after the draft that it was a huge concern and that a team might even have to have it surgically repaired and he'd miss a good portion of his rookie season. None of the rumor part proved to be true. There was a strain. It healed without surgery and he didn't miss any camps,  practices or games as a rookie.