Just now, Cochis_Calhoun said:

First up one of the big problems with the D line last year is that we couldn't rotate like we did the year before.

Secondly I still think Latu (with luck) or Chop Robinson is pick 22, Robinson in particular has the size to play hand in the dirt and the speed to play OLB.

Yeah. I think Latu will be gone. I can see Robinson if he is there. 

I think if Sweat is gone, Darius Robinson is in play which I feel is a reach at 22 but its a great fit for his replacement. 

4 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Did you make this post last year when we lost Sanders, Seumalo, Hargrave, Edwards, White, CJGJ and Epps in free agency?

Psh, just a buncha JAGs. Howie knows defensive talent better than anyone!

1 minute ago, brkmsn said:

Wrong again. He supposedly injured his pec lifting weights before the combine. Rumors swirled after the draft that it was a huge concern and that a team might even have to have it surgically repaired and he'd miss a good portion of his rookie season. None of the rumor part proved to be true. There was a strain. It healed without surgery and he didn't miss any camps,  practices or games as a rookie.

Wrong.

The injury existed. And just because the eagles were ok with not operating on it doesnt mean all of the NFL teams were. Thats how injuries drop guys.  Not all teams agree, so the player begins to fall. And finally the team who becomes comfortable at some point finally takes him.

4 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Was his chest injury before or after the draft?  

The strain happened before the draft. It never required surgery like the rumors would have people believe. It's no different than when a combine participant strains a leg muscle in the 40 or in a drill. It was mild. 

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Wrong.

The injury existed. And just because the eagles were ok with not operating on it doesnt mean all of the NFL teams were. Thats how injuries drop guys.  Not all teams agree, so the player begins to fall. And finally the team who becomes comfortable at some point finally takes him.

I guess you must be right. The Eagles obviously value the LB position so much that they would have drafted Dean in the 1st round had it not been for the injury they were comfortable with healing on it's own. That must be it! You can click the link I provided earlier or not, but Kiper predicted Dean's fall before the draft --- unlike all the pec speculation that came out after the draft. 

Just now, brkmsn said:

I guess you must be right. The Eagles obviously value the LB position so much that they would have drafted Dean in the 1st round had it not been for the injury they were comfortable with healing on it's own. That must be it! You can click the link I provided earlier or not, but Kiper predicted Dean's fall before the draft --- unlike all the pec speculation that came out after the draft. 

no silly. the eagles wouldnt have. But SOME team would have taken him earlier than round 3 if they were all comfortable with the shoulder. 

Any PCs scheduled for this afternoon when players have officially signed?

Re Barkley...we should have a good debate about his ideal utilization.

Philosophy 1: we finally have a franchise, 3-down, do-it-all back.  He's essentially on a 2 year deal.  Feature him.  Use him.  Ride this horse.  Hand him the ball early and often.  Get your money's worth.  Gainwell sucks.

Philosophy 2: The above utilization of a RB is dated and low upside for an offense as a whole.  The highest upside for our OFFENSE/TEAM, if not Barkley's stats, is with a more limited, more dynamic utilization with CMC in SF as the model.  Keep Barkley fresh.  Get him involved in screens and the passing game.  Actually try to LIMIT the generic between the tackles runs where his marginal value over a replacement level RB might actually be a tighter spread.  Everyone is going to lose their mind seeing Gainwell get meaningful carries with Barkley on the bench.  

But I think option 2 is the way to go.

Was really hoping for Simmons but I guess CJGJ is a decent consolation prize. Gotta imagine he can get over any hard feelings after he officially inks the deal but I bet a lot of fans won't feel the same after the way he left.

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Was really hoping for Simmons but I guess CJGJ is a decent consolation prize. Gotta imagine he can get over any hard feelings after he officially inks the deal but I bet a lot of fans won't feel the same after the way he left.

Have to imagine Simmons hasn’t signed yet because his asking price is higher. But it hurts to see Poyer go to Miami for 2m$

We got the Safety/DB/Nickel, so at least one position is sorted. More to do, but kind of ironic it's the player who left in a huff and made sure to burn the bridge.

But so be it. Onto LB.  Trade for TJ Edwards to get the band back together?

Just tell them the cap isn’t real 

10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Was really hoping for Simmons but I guess CJGJ is a decent consolation prize. Gotta imagine he can get over any hard feelings after he officially inks the deal but I bet a lot of fans won't feel the same after the way he left.

They may not be done at Safety.  But Blankenship/CJGJ/Rodgers could be a serviceable safety/nickel group at least.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He didn't spend at LB or S.

HE's entire argument can basically be summarized as: "Howie doesn't suck at managing the cap, he only sucks at evaluating players and retaining talent!"

24 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

They may not be done at Safety.  But Blankenship/CJGJ/Rodgers could be a serviceable safety/nickel group at least.

My prediction:

Howie views CJGJ has 50/50 Maddox replacement and nickel safety. He’s not our every down nickel but that’s his versatility option. Howie is still looking for 1 primary back end safety and 1 bona fide starting LB.

We’ll get an OT round 1 and a Trotter type in round 2, and our safety room is CJGJ, Sydney, Reed, Hyde/Simmons/etc

LB room New Starter, Dean, Trotter, strong value depth signing

CB room Bradberry, Rodgers, Slay, Ringo, Ricks, Jobe, 5th rounder

 

We’ll still have money after this and not counting what we get for Sweat, could be better but that’s not half bad. 

37 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Re Barkley...we should have a good debate about his ideal utilization.

Philosophy 1: we finally have a franchise, 3-down, do-it-all back.  He's essentially on a 2 year deal.  Feature him.  Use him.  Ride this horse.  Hand him the ball early and often.  Get your money's worth.  Gainwell sucks.

Philosophy 2: The above utilization of a RB is dated and low upside for an offense as a whole.  The highest upside for our OFFENSE/TEAM, if not Barkley's stats, is with a more limited, more dynamic utilization with CMC in SF as the model.  Keep Barkley fresh.  Get him involved in screens and the passing game.  Actually try to LIMIT the generic between the tackles runs where his marginal value over a replacement level RB might actually be a tighter spread.  Everyone is going to lose their mind seeing Gainwell get meaningful carries with Barkley on the bench.  

But I think option 2 is the way to go.

17 carries and 5 catches a game will still be 289 carries and 85 catches over a 17 game season. And close to 2000 total yards. That would be more than fine.

So you have a backup(s) with 8-12 carries and 2 catches a game.

1 minute ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

My prediction:

Howie views CJGJ has 50/50 Maddox replacement and nickel safety. He’s not our every down nickel but that’s his versatility option. Howie is still looking for 1 primary back end safety and 1 bona fide starting LB.

We’ll get an OT round 1 and a Trotter type in round 2, and our safety room is CJGJ, Sydney, Reed, Hyde/Simmons/etc

LB room New Starter, Dean, Trotter, strong value depth signing

CB room Bradberry, Rodgers, Slay, Ringo, Ricks, Jobe, 5th rounder

 

We’ll still have money after this and not counting what we get for Sweat, could be better but that’s not half bad. 

Don't sleep on McCollum, athletic safety from a small college who might get a bigger role this season.

Eagles like to red shirt late round picks/UFAs who tend to emerge in their 2nd/3rd season.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

But he plays more of that traditional Rush OLB role where we have a fairly high priced free agent signing in Huff, a 1st round pick in Nolan Smith, and then Baun.

How can they add more there? It seems hes already been replaced. 

Then again, maybe the do just go with more old traditional plain 3-4 looks and they have all of them.

Either way, it seems there is still a need for multiple DEs to be brought in if Sweat is gone. They only have Graham left then. In the case of a 3-4, you can say we have Carter and Williams, and Graham. Still need more players in that rotation. And you also need a backup NT. 

Seems any way you look at it, there is a lot of work to be done along the DL. 

They may view Noah Elliss as a potential backup NT. He will definitely get a chance to win it at camp at least.

52 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

My grades:

Barkley: B.  Don't like the contract, but I'm doing my best to shut up about where else the money could have been spent and focus on the player.  He's a significant upgrade on offense in an offseason where we didn't even expect any upgrades on that side of the ball.

Huff: inc.  Range: A+ to D.  For now, I think A-.  Concerned about what this means for our first round pick in Nolan Smith.  But I'm intrigued if they have plans for them to play together.  I generally don't like on-field analytics, but edge rushers are so freaking expensive.  To get someone with his burst and win rate for a manageable contract...that's a creative way to address a highly premium position.  I like it.

CJGJ: A.  Just an all around move that makes sense and addresses a need.

Baun: B.  I'm grading THIS move; don't penalize it for the other LB move they haven't made.  He's a perfectly good scratch-off lottery ticket.  Don't bank on him, but there is no problem with taking this shot.

Parker: F-.  Won't contribute on ST.  Every catch will be a contested risk.  Will contribute to spacing problems on offense.  He's going to be a TE2 that doesn't block.  If we are lucky, he'll be part of the 1st round of cuts.  This is Julio Jones 2.0 without the great name.

The Barkley contract is a 2 year deal for $24M that barely affects the cap for 2024. Not a bad contract.

30 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Just tell them the cap isn’t real 

That chart tells me the problem isn't paying QBs big money, it's paying mediocre QBs big money.

5 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

With Tatum they were never gonna trade up and get Tatum. Boston wasn’t gonna move down if the Sixers or lakers were going to take him according to reports. Sixers told the Celtics they were gonna take fultz and it was kind of known the lakers were talking hometown kid in ball. So you’re sitting at three and you’re likely going to get Markelle fultz anyway cause colangelo wanted him ( were reports people in the organization weren’t on the same page when they made that deal) 

that said, they Fed up so many times over this and ultimately it’s too many to overcome. Most of the teams that win titles don’t have as many errors and mistakes the sixers have made from the end of the process with Hinkie til today. 

Shoot, LIE lmao. Tatum was the best player since high school, over a 1-yr flash of Fultz.  Once you take him what the Lakers an gonna tell the league office it lied to them lol

44 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Re Barkley...we should have a good debate about his ideal utilization.

Philosophy 1: we finally have a franchise, 3-down, do-it-all back.  He's essentially on a 2 year deal.  Feature him.  Use him.  Ride this horse.  Hand him the ball early and often.  Get your money's worth.  Gainwell sucks.

Philosophy 2: The above utilization of a RB is dated and low upside for an offense as a whole.  The highest upside for our OFFENSE/TEAM, if not Barkley's stats, is with a more limited, more dynamic utilization with CMC in SF as the model.  Keep Barkley fresh.  Get him involved in screens and the passing game.  Actually try to LIMIT the generic between the tackles runs where his marginal value over a replacement level RB might actually be a tighter spread.  Everyone is going to lose their mind seeing Gainwell get meaningful carries with Barkley on the bench.  

But I think option 2 is the way to go.

He's 27. Run him into the ground while you can

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Graham is probably a DE on passing downs.  Something like Carter or Marlon T at nose, Graham at one DE spot and either Carter or Williams at the other DE spot.  Then the freshest or hottest OLBs.  Could be wrong but……

Passing down will probably be 2-4-5 with OLBs lined up on the LOS from a standing position, like they did last season, though Graham would probably have his hand on the ground b/c he's probably more comfortable that way. Though Graham also lines up as a "DT" in pass rush formations.

Huff - Graham - Carter - Smith?

The reason they want to move on from Sweat is he can't play 3-4 DE or OLB, so he's a pass rush specialist in this scheme.

The reason they may want to move on from Reddick is he's more of a 5-2 rush LB than a 3-4 OLB who can play off the LOS.

I think Fangio will want to be able to play his OLBs on and off the LOS, giving QBs and centers (making pass blocking calls) more to think about pre and post snap

17 minutes ago, austinfan said:

17 carries and 5 catches a game will still be 289 carries and 85 catches over a 17 game season. And close to 2000 total yards. That would be more than fine.

So you have a backup(s) with 8-12 carries and 2 catches a game.

Man, if we average running the ball with RBs 25-30 times a game I'd be happy but surprised.

Looks like remaining cap numbers got posted on OTC.

 

 

5 minutes ago, tuffstuff07 said:

Looks like remaining cap numbers got posted on OTC.