Have to root for Mack

The CJGJ and Barkley contracts are prime examples as to why you don't judge a contract numbers until the details come out.  I don't know why this needs to be restated every off season but here we are...

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

 

That makes sense so the numbers aren't going in until the deals are official at noon or whenever today 

2 minutes ago, tuffstuff07 said:

That makes sense so the numbers aren't going in until the deals are official at noon or whenever today 

4pm EST

New mock post-FA additions.

 

They get their OT choice, a 3-4 end to replace Sweat, a dynamic LB they’ve had their eye on, a superb S, the #3 WR, a great piece to the DT rotation, a sleeper RB (who I doubt is still available here), and a competitor for TE2. 

11 minutes ago, RLC said:

Have to root for Mack

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Just tell them the cap isn’t real 

Those poor fans don't have an elite GM like we do. 

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

HE's entire argument can basically be summarized as: "Howie doesn't suck at managing the cap, he only sucks at evaluating players and retaining talent!"

He doesn't suck at retaining talent either. 

43 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

My prediction:

Howie views CJGJ has 50/50 Maddox replacement and nickel safety. He’s not our every down nickel but that’s his versatility option. Howie is still looking for 1 primary back end safety and 1 bona fide starting LB.

We’ll get an OT round 1 and a Trotter type in round 2, and our safety room is CJGJ, Sydney, Reed, Hyde/Simmons/etc

LB room New Starter, Dean, Trotter, strong value depth signing

CB room Bradberry, Rodgers, Slay, Ringo, Ricks, Jobe, 5th rounder

 

We’ll still have money after this and not counting what we get for Sweat, could be better but that’s not half bad. 

Very well may go

1. Mims

2. LB-Trotter, Cooper, Wilson?

2. S- Kinchens, Hicks?

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

He doesn't suck at retaining talent either. 

Oh ok, those LBs and Ss we had last year really lit the league on fire then. My mistake.

41 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

They may view Noah Elliss as a potential backup NT. He will definitely get a chance to win it at camp at least.

The Barkley contract is a 2 year deal for $24M that barely affects the cap for 2024. Not a bad contract.

I sure hope they have a backup plan better than Elliss. I get he will be on the roster "competing". If he wins,  we likely have an issue. 

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Very well may go

1. Mims

2. LB-Trotter, Cooper, Wilson?

2. S- Kinchens, Hicks?

I want no part of Kinchens. Would much rather take Bishop, Hicks, or Brade.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

I sure hope they have a backup plan better than Elliss. I get he will be on the roster "competing". If he wins,  we likely have an issue. 

Agreed. I think the smoke around Khristian Boyd shows they are thinking about the position in the draft.

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Oh ok, those LBs and Ss we had last year really lit the league on fire then. My mistake.

Again,  not cap casualties. 

Not unable to retain talent. 

Those are 2 devalued positions he figured he would just replace cheaply rather than retain. 

Wrong move.  But not for the reasons you guys keep saying. 

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I sure hope they have a backup plan better than Elliss. I get he will be on the roster "competing". If he wins,  we likely have an issue. 

Better hope he has a plan at LB that includes Dean going on IR again

1 minute ago, Outlaw said:

I want no part of Kinchens. Would much rather take Bishop, Hicks, or Brade.

Agreed. I think the smoke around Khristian Boyd shows they are thinking about the position in the draft.

Kinchens is excellent.  Is it the 40 time scaring you off?

Justin Jefferson turned down a new contract from Minn before the 2023 season that was for 30m+ per year.  

Does he want more money, or does he want to go somewhere to win? 

Any chance we double up at LB in the 2nd round?

12 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

The CJGJ and Barkley contracts are prime examples as to why you don't judge a contract numbers until the details come out.  I don't know why this needs to be restated every off season but here we are...

And I don't know how many times this needs to be stated but setting up a $37million 3 year contract so it can be a 2 year $26million contract that only counts ~ $4million against the cap in year one, is exactly the kind of pointless contractual tomfoolery from Howie that makes zero sense from a cap management standpoint, because even if we did take advantage of the break it simply means the contract bites us in the ass for the overwhelming bulk of the guaranteed money next year, while every cap site has us carrying enough space this year to split it more equitably.

Just now, garingovt2000 said:

Any chance we double up at LB in the 2nd round?

We shouldn't. This is not the LB class to do that.

 

1 minute ago, garingovt2000 said:

Any chance we double up at LB in the 2nd round?

No. 

Just now, RLC said:

We shouldn't. This is not the LB class to do that.

Which also makes it smart he ignored it in FA while the good ones signed 

 

24 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

The CJGJ and Barkley contracts are prime examples as to why you don't judge a contract numbers until the details come out.  I don't know why this needs to be restated every off season but here we are...

Were the contract details on CJGJ posted already? All I've seen is 3yr $30M but nothing on structure or gm.