7 hours ago, Talonblood said:

I've been ****in about his camps ever since he got here. I call it Camp SiriSoft™. 🤣

Maybe they need to commit more time to Juandamentals 😂😂

32 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

This taking time is an issue, because the HC isn’t under contract beyond this season so what is the point of hiring new coordinators, but keeping the lame duck coach? 

If I had to guess I'd bet Lurie really would have liked to let Sirianni go too but was afraid of starting to be viewed as another Panthers or Raiders where they change HCs more than I change my underwear - (and maybe if last year was the final year of his contract he would not have been signed to a new deal).  Or maybe they really did feel like he earned a chance to right the ship since he did lead them to the Super Bowl just a year ago and had them at 10-1 to start this season (before the wheels came off) and will see how next season goes before making any kind of decision on his future.  

1 minute ago, time2rock said:

If I had to guess I'd bet Lurie really would have liked to let Sirianni go too but was afraid of starting to be viewed as another Panthers or Raiders where they change HCs more than I change my underwear - (and maybe if last year was the final year of his contract he would not have been signed to a new deal).  Or maybe they really did feel like he earned a chance to right the ship since he did lead them to the Super Bowl just a year ago and had them at 10-1 to start this season (before the wheels came off) and will see how next season goes before making any kind of decision on his future.  

Which could lead to yet another change at OC in 2025 to go with that new HC is this doesn’t work out. That would be four consecutive seasons with a new OC. Hopefully the next HC (if it comes to that) will at least be able to call his own plays. 

13 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

This was the Ravens first year under Monken as OC. In fact every team changed OC in last 2 years (incredible fact). It’s not rocket science there is a learning period but it shouldn’t take a year. 
 

im assuming Howie is going to address LB and S in free agency. Not sure it will be top name but he’ll get guys

All 32 teams changed OCs in the past 2 years?  If true that is crazy!  

I have lowered my expectations (to basically nothing) for the upcoming season.  It very well could come together sooner than a year which would be great but I'm just not counting on it.  A lot will have to do with getting Hurts back on track, how Brown buys in, what happens with the OL (does Kelce retire? if so does Jurgens slide over?  and if so how much of a drop do we see? what happens with RG, RB, WR3?).  I have questions dammit! 

 

4 minutes ago, time2rock said:

All 32 teams changed OCs in the past 2 years?  If true that is crazy!  

I have lowered my expectations (to basically nothing) for the upcoming season.  It very well could come together sooner than a year which would be great but I'm just not counting on it.  A lot will have to do with getting Hurts back on track, how Brown buys in, what happens with the OL (does Kelce retire? if so does Jurgens slide over?  and if so how much of a drop do we see? what happens with RG, RB, WR3?).  I have questions dammit! 

 

Yes it's amazing I think it's with the changed OCs this offseason all 32 teams will have a new OC since the start of 2022.  As far as HC change in 2025 Lurie probably feels he got the best of both worlds here. He is installing an OC that he probably thought has fresher ideas but wasn't ready to be HC 3 years ago.  If the O looks promising then great maybe he's your next HC. If the O stinks then you've probably learned things that we don't know today to inform your next move. 

I'm on board with the new hires at OC and DC.  With the Fangio obsession...and now having the man himself...I have no doubt Howie will try to get decent players at whatever positions Vic says he needs most for his scheme to work with this defense.  I imagine the back 7 is going to be completely reshaped.  

We shouldn't need quite as much on offense...we'll probably take an OT in the draft (round 1) and hopefully we can find a good WR3 to add an element to the offense.  I think Moore prefers 3 WR sets.

 

5 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

I'm on board with the new hires at OC and DC.  With the Fangio obsession...and now having the man himself...I have no doubt Howie will try to get decent players at whatever positions Vic says he needs most for his scheme to work with this defense.  I imagine the back 7 is going to be completely reshaped.  

We shouldn't need quite as much on offense...we'll probably take an OT in the draft (round 1) and hopefully we can find a good WR3 to add an element to the offense.  I think Moore prefers 3 WR sets.

 

Watch him use Covey in the slot and the guy catches 70 balls.......

1 minute ago, NYEagle said:

Watch him use Covey in the slot and the guy catches 70 balls.......

That would be funny!  And funny enough, that doesn't sound that far-fetched!  But obviously we don't really know what kind of route runner he is...he'd have to be Wes Welker-esque.

I wanted Tank Dell last year.  Hoping we get someone similar with the speed to add that explosive element and also force safeties to play deep.

18 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

I'm on board with the new hires at OC and DC.  With the Fangio obsession...and now having the man himself...I have no doubt Howie will try to get decent players at whatever positions Vic says he needs most for his scheme to work with this defense.  I imagine the back 7 is going to be completely reshaped.  

We shouldn't need quite as much on offense...we'll probably take an OT in the draft (round 1) and hopefully we can find a good WR3 to add an element to the offense.  I think Moore prefers 3 WR sets.

I agree with all that but will add we will also have a need at RB (Gainwell currently the only one under contract entering 2024) and maybe a RG if Kelce hangs em up and Jurgens slides over.  

3 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I agree with all that but will add we will also have a need at RB (Gainwell currently the only one under contract entering 2024) and maybe a RG if Kelce hangs em up and Jurgens slides over.  

Agreed we do but I think those are "minor" pieces in terms of the cap hit? Especially given we might have around $40M.

10 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Agreed we do but I think those are "minor" pieces in terms of the cap hit? Especially given we might have around $40M.

I don't know if 40 is real with the can kicked contracts that might need to be eaten with guys coming off books.  But I agree RB should be doable. I'd like to see Swift kept

31 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I agree with all that but will add we will also have a need at RB (Gainwell currently the only one under contract entering 2024) and maybe a RG if Kelce hangs em up and Jurgens slides over.  

True, but I was mainly thinking positions where we'll likely spend upper-echelon resources.  RB is a position where we'll prob find another cost-effective player...certainly won't be breaking the bank or using a 1st or 2nd round pick.  If we take an OT in Round 1 as the presumed eventual LJ replacement, that player and/or Steen should be competing for RG if Jurgens slides to C.  

WR3 will be interesting to see if address it and how aggressively.  The clear focus for the offseason has to be in the back 7.  FA and the draft.

1 minute ago, EaglesAddict said:

WR3 will be interesting to see if address it and how aggressively.  The clear focus for the offseason has to be in the back 7.  FA and the draft.

I'd like to see them use a second or a third on a WR to be honest. Someone young who can come in here as WR3 and who knows who we might find. We know Brown is tied down and we need to tie Smith down to a long term deal but ultimately I don't think both are going to still be on this roster in say 2-3 years so we need to try and find that long term replacement for one of them (most likely Brown).

Kind of amazed there aren't separate threads for each hire

How many WR screens will Moore run in his first game?

41 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Can we get a rooney rule draft pick for him?

5 hours ago, NYEagle said:

Watch him use Covey in the slot and the guy catches 70 balls.......

Covey has shown more than enough in his limited snaps on offense to warrant more playing time imo. 

On 1/28/2024 at 10:30 AM, GoEagles614 said:

Cowboys were 1st in yards 5th in TDs, 1st in First Downs and 1st in passing TDs this year without him. 
 

I’m okay with the hire, as long as we run the ball, get under center more, and get some creative formations to combat the blitz I’m good whoever it is. 
 

DC I’m much more worried about because Fangio will put an Edge rusher on CeeDee Lamb and give 7 yards of cushion on the outside like we did last season. 

I mean, sadly our last 3-4 DCs have been doing that.  Seems like Lurie/Howie like the bend but don't break crap so much they hire guys with that philosophy.

12 minutes ago, [TSM]_PimpDaddyPain said:

I mean, sadly our last 3-4 DCs have been doing that.  Seems like Lurie/Howie like the bend but don't break crap so much they hire guys with that philosophy.

There were really only two options at DC this off-season.

(a) Vic Fangio

(b) Ron Rivera

No way was this team going with a young up and comer...again.

9 minutes ago, Vee said:

There were really only two options at DC this off-season.

(a) Vic Fangio

(b) Ron Rivera

No way was this team going with a young up and comer...again.

I would have liked to see Leslie Frazier get consideration too.  

2 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I would have liked to see Leslie Frazier get consideration too.  

The problem with Frazier is that with any success, he would have been gone in as soon as one season for a head coaching position.

Vic and Ron won't be a hot HC candidate any time soon.

1 hour ago, Vee said:

The problem with Frazier is that with any success, he would have been gone in as soon as one season for a head coaching position.

Vic and Ron won't be a hot HC candidate any time soon.

Well right now Frasier isn't coaching ... his stint as DC / asst HC in Buffalo ended in 2022.  

17 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

The defense will be better I guarantee that. The Dc is exponentially better and Howie will add LBs and S that are at least upgrades.

and with all the talent on O I think they’ll produce while learning new system

The defensive coaching will be better, but I think it's wishful thinking that Howie will add LBs and safeties that are upgrades.  We've been neglecting those positions since he's been with the team, save for a lucky free agent signing here and there.