20 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Don't think so with this QB

This QB created the SB window for you to even have mentioned it as a thought.

19 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Here's the stat. Howie is paying top dollar for a 20th ranked QB. The goal is to get your QB to EARN HIS PAYCHECK and that's a HUGE FAIL right now. I'm not going through the same BS yet another time. Howie chases monetary stats whether you like it or not. If Guys aren't playing to the STATS he is paying for, they will find their way out of Philly. A child can understand this. Your ridiculous harping and droning on and on about the 2 seed DOESN'T matter. Tell me again what difference that would have made? We would have just lost to someone else because the QB lost this team. It will be interesting to see with "full autonomy" if Mannion has the balls to pull Hurts out when he plays like ish. The sell out, side deal, running QB who refuses to run is nowhere NEAR worth 55 million a year. That is a stat Howie cannot ignore and neither can you. And you know the fans won't tolerate it, they will boo Hurts off the field(as they should) We are, However, stuck with this lame QB at least in 2026. Mannion is going to be frustrated with Hurts like Moore was. I'm wondering WHY the OC included "full autonomy". That was never blatantly pointed out before. That indicates to me Mannion is free to pull Hurts if it's HURTING the team and if you also notice we let Howell walk with NO McKee trade. Put all this together, if you are capable, and let me know what conclusion you reach because the rest of us already reached that point.. Will McKee be traded? Maybe IDK, but the fact remains, it's put up or get out year for Hurts

Flat out wrong! I understand you more concerned with fantasy stat chasing style points. But no way should that be the main goal of anybody actually part of Eagles organization.

Championship….postseason success. That’s the priority.

20 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Don't think so with this QB

Let’s see with Steichen he was MVP runner up and best player on the biggest stage field…that had what some argue is the greatest football player ever….along with other HOF potential talent including the arguably best TE ever.

Under Moore won the SB and was SB MVP.

He’s had nothing short of a HOF potential career path so far. Best franchise QB ever!

16 hours ago, EaglesTD123 said:

A little exercise, no antiperspirant.

What a dad joke…gotta admit I had a small chuckle from it.

16 hours ago, EaglesTD123 said:

I already called it…McKee QB1 2027

I’m a fan of McKee as all here know already. But nothing to show he’s that level of option we’d need.

6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

One year deal for Goedert.....that must have been the delay. They probably wanted to lock him in a two year deal.

Still can draft a TE.

Going to happen. Goedert been doing us a solid. Obviously he will take less to play with Hurts and be an Eagles. Unlike the monster money thrown at AJ who crying about being made a champion even as an Eagles. The delay is the whole running tab dead money hole Rosie is in with Goedert. Lucky he came back!

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m a fan of McKee as all here know already. But nothing to show he’s that level of option we’d need.

Going to happen. Goedert been doing us a solid. Obviously he will take less to play with Hurts and be an Eagles. Unlike the monster money thrown at AJ who crying about being made a champion even as an Eagles. The delay is the whole running tab dead money hole Rosie is in with Goedert. Lucky he came back!

Be interesting to hear about the stacked cap ramifications involved if Goedert had left AND we had to take the AJ dead money preJune1. 20 mil for Goedert I believe. AJ a lofty number as well. Been talked about a zillion times. Goedert it seems signing was a huge obstacle concerning the AJ trade. Haven’t even seen the contract details with Goedert he just inked. Educated guessing it cleared cap this season pushing it down the road.

You all know my thinking surrounding the cap. (Bigger picture wise at least) I don’t believe in capping the team out along with saddling the future unless it’s an All In season.

So is this an All In season?

Is it an All in season is a difficult question most always.

Large check towards All In season:

Believing Saquan has one more elite season in him.

Fangio possible final season.

Lane last season.

QB1 cap hit not getting smaller any seasons ahead. Most likely going to be considerably more.

Mannion along with so much new staff could be seen on both sides of answering the All In question for 2025. Most reasonable expectation(yeah we know that’s not you FL always expected mastery first real series of first game) is first year developing and geling so many different unrelated coaches going to take time. Bumps in the road are just obvious expectation figuring things all out. That’s on the very optimistic side of believing the whole O coaches are the right capable guys together to even begin with. Optimistically they can pull things together by the end of the season.

Mannion the exact opposite of experienced proven OC option an All In team would traditionally choose. Well discussed amongst fans and Eagles media about getting Dabol…(list whomever your top select potential experienced options were)

Everybody I heard from about the OC position was very specifically and clearly looking for experienced and proven OC hire for the optimal situation under Siri to be All In. Main reasoning being a coach that had his own scheme and playcalling proven experiences. Finally dump Siri O been stuck under entire Hurts run. Mannion far from really believing he has autonomy…or anything close concerning the O. Reaks of adding to Siri O for another season like it always been to me. Clearly Mannion wasn’t the level hire to slow Siri control of the O down. Figure at best Siri gives Mannion the heavy workload over the O in the offseason possibly. Mannion can coach in my opinion at least. As in the teaching portion of the job. He very likely can relate and has a good grasp on the current NFL.

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah I'm drafting Stowers in 2

Be nice if we got the extra AJ trade ammo to work with accomplishing this. Will he be there at our second round current selection? I’m trying to dive into this year’s draft class more and more. Would be an excellent selection if so. Worth moving up some for though I’m believing at this moment. Doesn’t have much experience at TE might be just enough for him to last. I’m a fan. Biggest weakness being size. Assume he can add 10 pounds of NFL pro training/lifestyle of muscle…would relieve that concern for me.

All the negatives towards this being an All In season are very numerous.

If it’s not an All In season my logic would be to clear future cap. GM in the unique positioning not forced to put up ‘just a good show selling tickets.’ Rosie given can make the hard best organizational decisions instead of complete short term….most GMs face with so much priority being on personal job security.

All In or not… gotta protect the QB. Oline looking so much lesser to be optimistic about currently. O needs attention bad. WR, TE along with multiple Oline. All will aid extending QB1s career. Can take some lumps rebuilding in other areas…can’t create the Hurts takes a brutal beating season.

Is anybody naive enough to believe our passing game and O will be humming first half of the season? Maybe beyond super optimistic nicer way to look at beyond any reasonable expectations.

Shannahan/McVay O completely different world from Siri’s. What would be a larger more time consuming switch up than what our guys will attempt to do? Teaching completely different concepts by the least experienced coach to do so.

Part of me wants to believe in Mannion. Even that scenario mostly looking at him in as a developmental O coach. He hasn’t done any of this before. I can believe in him enough to have potential to become a HC. Nothing concrete or proven enough to back up any of that ever happens though. Purely optimistic point of view really.

Most likely scenario sadly the situation is a trainwreck this upcoming season. Such a long list of reasons weighing on the negative side of the scales.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Goedert 1 more year I'm grabbing Stowers(93's pick) in 2 whatever it takes because he can be our primary TE for 4 years at least. 1 year of good coaching will get him primed to take the reins. Proctor or Lomu should have the talent to take over for Lane. Jacas is a beast. NP with Lawrence if he's the consolation prize. Lance, big possession type, start him in the slot on rotation with Darius Cooper and Wilson, but he can move outside when we are ready. Farmer would be fine sitting a year at RG behind Steen. Black will be a nice RB in time. Tough kid. Payne has talent, needs coached

Isn't Jacas more a 4-3 DE or 3-4 3T not an OLB like we want. I love his strength and ability to rush the passer but from what I've read that is more his role.

Mannion has to just "Add To” Siri O. Additionally the odds stacked towards Siri getting heavily involved over the O quickly. Inexperienced in a plethora of ways coach trying to add in totally foreign concepts to our players…with his supporting coaches on O mostly far from knowing Mannion’s O themselves…-add in Siri’s. First TC doing the job, putting together the O he’s running on the fly, first time playcaller, not familiar with his personnel and the organization.

4 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

Isn't Jacas more a 4-3 DE or 3-4 DE not an OLB-EDGE

What D will we be running in 2027? 2028…

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

What D will we be running in 2027? 2028…

Obviously Rosie will lead towards sticking towards Fangio knockoff DC replacement. That based on quickest easiest transition for multiple reasons…not least of which being D personnel we are locked into.

Could there be consideration to run last year’s first round pick on the Edge? Spin things towards getting a LB along with even relying on Trot and Smael. Not the most obvious decisions. Believe the less boxed in on options the better the results tend to prove out.

Campbell at Edge and DeJean at S. Two potential key changes that could flip the situation fairly drastically. Not out of consideration decisions to make.

Maybe Carter year two under Fangio here is ready to serviceably man the Slot.

Maybe change things up on D by instead of Nickle favoring three S combinations.

Maybe have Fangio identifying a quality draft prospect. S, Slot CB…or both. Fangio completely transformed our coaching, as well as personnel. Fangio great at identifying talent and how to utilize it. Round four quality S and round five underrated Slot CB prospects….could solve so many difficulties this team currently faces. Be great if true.