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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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40 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He finally struck right when the market was at its lowest

It's low for the other 31 teams too

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31 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's low for the other 31 teams too

Exactly the point. Get your top guy when the market is ripe

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Howie didn't to this,it's been trending for some time now,where ya been?

I think he did personally help shape it. But that’s the goal is to get everybody moving your way.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Except ours. We lose the running game way too fast

Which has never helped much under Siri. Can think of two games where the opponent was ripe to pass all over. Otherwise physical mauling works for us.

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

The narrative spinning 😵‍💫 like wow it’s so bad it isn’t even funny sometimes.

Eagles have shown they will value RBs that are talented players… we paid Westy, paid McCoy(chipper opted to trade him not Howie) and now went out to pay Saquon. 
 

CB over S- how often has this ever been the case under Howie? We opted to go for S numerous different times not saying last year was the case but it’s and anomaly not the norm for the team.

and the same for the draft oh we don’t value CB or LB etc like we have drafted guys in the top 3 rounds over the years used the resources and failed…. It’s one thing to say we are bad at evaluating but another to say we don’t use the resources on them. 

In the passing era of the NFL to point out two stud S we actually have fielded isn’t making any point towards him valuing the positions enough.

Can put three or four S on the field at once. So just having one guy doesn’t mean much to my point.

3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I have the terrible feeling this team is going to crash and burn this season under Siri which is going to be a real shame since we have the talent to be a contending team. 
 

I get the feeling going to be a lot of clashing between Moore and Siri 

Wasn't Siri the guy who had Moore as his first choice to be OC?   They both like to pass the ball a lot. 

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lmao except it has been every year under Howie outside of what two lol the failed Jarrett year and then last year….

you know what outlier means right????? Means we don’t usually have S…. Name me the years we had terrible S play under Howie???? 

Other than Ceedy Duce having that hot streak…all since Jenkins was split.

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Nope Hurts never gets hurt so no need for backup QBs shouldn’t wasn’t a dime on them instead need to front load all our deals and pay RB 12m up front and then pay 15m for our LB…. And don’t even think about paying our all pro LG that was such a terrible move per ham 

I value the backup QB. But can’t put him above all these main starters.

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lmao except it has been every year under Howie outside of what two lol the failed Jarrett year and then last year….

you know what outlier means right????? Means we don’t usually have S…. Name me the years we had terrible S play under Howie???? 

We usually don’t have S. That’s what I’m saying.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

We usually don’t have S. That’s what I’m saying.

I mean two years ago…Rosie was forced into trading for Ceedy Duce. Only reason we got him on loan like that.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So why didn't we recover from the collapse, instead we spiraled down? WHY? Who's job is it to get the team to play and get them out of a funk on the field? That would be your 255 million dollar baby no? I'm not being smart ass,but he gets paid to bring teams out of crap like that Mahomes does it all the time. Hurts keeps saying it's on him. Yep,so FIX IT already

This is just not an educated statement. The coach has to self evaluate and change the calls. If the O is stale …that’s nothing a QB controls.

Offensive playcalling has to adjust. Not a QB ever lived that can overcome predictable playcalling.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I mean you can't pump your team enough to beat AZ???? C'mon man

Exactly. Some how you just think it’s because of Hurts. He wasn’t the cause of the book being out on our predictable O. Or the terrible D.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Siri was on the field WOW I missed that

Is it not the O coaching that calls plays? Predictable playcalling and failing to adjust is definitely on the coaching staff.

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Why not get elite players at the cheaper paid positions?

That's why I asked you about Jerry Jeudy.   You said $13 mil was cheap for him.... well, would you rather have Barkley or Jeudy for the same money?

If you have money, get an elite player that impacts the game at a position that costs less...than pay the same money for a mediocre player who really doesn't change the game much at a more expensive position. 

I would never pay $13 mil for a WR..either get the $20 mil guy or save your money. Same with a $15 mil QB... it's an expensive version of a guy you want to replace.   Bad business 

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So tunnel visioned on roster building.

Yeah....2011 style... when your boy sold you on " we have a defense built to play with a lead"  and I was laughing because the game always starts 0-0.  

No investment at S or LB but 3 pro bowl CBs and 4 highly paid DEs... all the draft picks at DT... paying Vince Young, Steve Smith and Ronnie Brown top dollar as backups.... yet the garbage at S and LB??  That was with unlimited $$$$

47 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Which has never helped much under Siri. Can think of two games where the opponent was ripe to pass all over. Otherwise physical mauling works for us.

Right...because it takes the decisions away from the QB.

6 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

Reddick to Jets. 

Schefter notes New York will send Philadelphia a conditional 2026 third-round pick. The selection will become a second-rounder if Reddick plays at least 67.5% of defensive snaps this season and records at least 10 sacks.

NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo notes New York will take on $14.5MM of Reddick’s compensation. The Eagles, meanwhile, could also be off the hook for a $1MM roster bonus

I don’t like this trade. 2026? Really? For the best DE on the team? Disappointing.

37 minutes ago, Senhorcook said:

I don’t like this trade. 2026? Really? For the best DE on the team? Disappointing.

Think about it....who is QB for the Jets?  Do you think he has 2 years left?    Could be good pick.  

Much better than trading 120 and Reddick for 90

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Johnny NewtonDT Illinois
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Edgerrin CooperLB Texas A&M
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Cooper BeebeOG Kansas State
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Cade StoverTE Ohio State
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Kitan OladapoS Oregon State
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M.J. DevonshireCB Pittsburgh
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Ainias SmithWR Texas A&M
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Logan LeeDT Iowa
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Traded back the 171 pick. I would however redo pick 210 and take Cory Schrader at RB

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5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Exactly. Some how you just think it’s because of Hurts. He wasn’t the cause of the book being out on our predictable O. Or the terrible D.

You don't go 10-1 then lose to a 4 win team. The QB needs to pick them up and get them back if he is a leader,which you constantly call him. So why didn't he lead, instead we hear "It's on me and i need to do better". That was a weekly statement he made for the last games we played. So that admission of guilt and the fact he failed to lead shoots holes in your "he's a leader" baloney. I don't hate Hurts,stop saying I do because that's a LIE. The man needs to go back to progressing not regressing ON THE FIELD,which has nothing to do with coaching. I don't care if it's a simple trap play option. Hurts needs to execute the play. At 10-1 we were possibly SB bound. Then things got tougher and Hurts did NOT respond. So let's be honest and say hurts is a middle of the pack QB with a great team we gave him. The AZ game should have been a blow out in our favor. Instead Hurts failed to lead. If it's on him as he kept stating,then yeah it's ON HIM. I like Hurts.,he is a nice person,but he has limitations like all players do. Now you can progress beyond those limitations,OR you have peaked and thats as far as you go. What will Hurts do now???? Will he go back to progressing or is this the best we can expect from a 255 million dollar QB? I'd like to see him take the next step. if he cannot do that we need to look for another guy. That is not hating,that is reality.Hurts needs to lead this team through the good and the bad instead of making the same lame statement every week we lose. I want Hurts to succeed. How badly does he want to??? he's right though this is ON HIM and he needs to pony up and play better. Howie gave him a nice offense and he needs to get guys involved instead of ball hogging. Leaders do not hog the ball,leaders get the stats for the guys around him UNselfishly. I am looking forward to seeing hurts perform at a higher level than he has been. he has the players around him and he needs to LEAD. We shall see. Another collapse would put him in the Fields category and I don;t want to see that,but there are 52 other guys to worry about. Let's see if he leads now. His excuse book has run out

9 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

What did you expect to get for him age? It will be most likely a round 2 pick in 2026

Oh I’m not suggesting the value we got is terrible… Though a 2026 pick isn’t great. I just think they handled the situation badly all around and we were left with little choice.

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2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Oh I’m not suggesting the value we got is terrible… Though a 2026 pick isn’t great. I just think they handled the situation badly all around and we were left with little choice.

Well at times you have to move on and we did that.Sometimes it's painful like when we lost CGJ. But now he came back. I thought the deal was fair. Not outstanding,but fair for both teams. We got used to Howie fleecing others,so when a "fair" deal is made it seems bad because we are spoiled LOL. So for me, draft picks are valuable when you have to roll someone out..Future draft picks can be traded to get who you want down the road. It keeps the team updated,or you can trade for a player you need. Howie does it all the time and love him or hate him,he keeps the team as fresh as he can. Could also be the new coaches telling Howie what/who they need. If there is a shift in how we play and he didn't fit,you get what you can. Remember when we changed defenses and Barwin was odd man out? Maybe that's what is going on IDK .

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