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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Why did they trade such an elite player? It’s not like they traded Reddick because some team came offering The Bag out of the blue. There was no Bag.

30 years old, wanted a new deal likely way more the what we were willing to pay a guy his age.

What I do find funny on this whole Reddick situation is if we paid him then his play dropped off Howie then is the moron because he extended an aging player but now that we opted to move on he is stupid because he traded the elite player lol 

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

If I told you we added an elite pass rusher that always gets double digit sacks…for a third round pick… three years from now? We’d all talk about how Rosie fleeeced them.

Sure if it was an actual elite pass rusher but your the only one that fees Reddick as elite think he is very good would have much rather kept him over Sweat but we opted the other way 

The real question now is what does Reddick look like compared to his replacement Huff if they are comparable this coming season the Eagles got a future pick plus the younger player. 

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Teams always have to worry about his running. That comes with the territory in either run or pass. He was killing it with AJ. Then DCs adapted. Our O never did. They’re going to blitz…because we don’t utilize short and medium passing game. Just deep routes and screens.

I think they blitz ....run blitz to take away the run gaps... also neutralizes the read option keeper.    And then it forces Hurts to play with his brain instead of his legs.   Tampa has had success vs Hurts taking away the run and limiting his game to that of a passer where they limit his rolling to the right. 

17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Why did they trade such an elite player? Its not like they traded Reddick because some team came offering The Bag out of the blue. There was no Bag.

Reddick is not elite.  Stop it.  The trade was absolutely good business.   A great article from a Jets reporter angle explaining it.... " right now from a Jets standpoint it looks like a home run, soon it will end up being a broken bat single.   For the Eagles,  it looks like a broken bat single, that soon enough can turn into a ball in the gap even a HR if Reddick reaches the numbers this year.  The Eagles are looking for team success,  not individual numbers from Reddick, and have the medium to long game in mind.  Joe Douglas may not be around for the medium to long game so he was forced to make a move with Huff leaving and the other edge rushers signing elsewhere." 

 

You have a local player with some swag...that was blocked by a 2nd string TE on the key play in the 2022 NFC title game.    

Congrats on ten sacks for 4 years in a row... that's all he looks for.  He dropped off at the end of last year.  Trent Cole style...which we've seen plenty of times.  

Easy guy to root for.  But let's be honest,  not a guy worth the cap hit,certainly not a major extension.  How many fumbles did he cause or recover last year?   The sacks look nice...but that's what Huff gave you being 4 years younger and playing half the snaps.   Do you consider Huff " elite "  ??

 

25 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If I told you we added an elite pass rusher that always gets double digit sacks…for a third round pick… three years from now? We’d all talk about how Rosie fleeeced them.

Just like the Saints fleeced us?   If you told me Howie lost a 25 year old pass rusher to a team....then traded a 3rd round pick that becomes a 2nd round pick if the 30 year old pass rusher reaches 10 sacks....  I absolutely would think Howie goofed. 

2026 comes around and Hurts cap hit is 30-40m whatever it goes up to at that point. And we need to retool this team people going to be happy we have that 2nd rounder then lol 

And the only negative impact is if the guys we paid/drafted and retained don’t fill the hole left by Reddick….

But we have the elite Josh Sweat hams other boy so that shouldn’t be a concern. Huff gave similar production as Reddick last season in half the snaps. 
Smith was a 1st rounder have to hope we didn’t botch our evaluations on him 

Also Sweat likely leave in FA next year the comp pick for him could add another 2026 pick for us if he has a strong year a 3rd is realistic.

2026 draft could be a stacked draft for us 

25 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

The real question now is what does Reddick look like compared to his replacement Huff if they are comparable this coming season the Eagles got a future pick plus the younger player. 

Don't even look at it as Reddick vs Huff.   It's the big picture at the position.   Huff shouldn't play all the snaps that Reddick played, so the play from Smith and everyone else at the position if more snaps become available is also part of the picture. 

Looking at the individual player is a Dallas mentality... it's why they always hype up and overpay. Yet the team success doesn't match up. 

2026 have all 7 original picks I believe then add in the likely 2nd from Reddick and a very possible 3rd/4th for Sweat….

Not even talking any other moves we make from now till then that could stack even more picks for us 

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Also Sweat likely leave in FA next year the comp pick for him could add another 2026 pick for us if he has a strong year a 3rd is realistic.

2026 draft could be a stacked draft for us 

I don't plan on getting comp picks in 2026...to me that means we lose more FAs than we sign.  I'm not counting on that.  Certainly not 3rd round level for Sweat...realistically a 5th or 6th rounder would be the result...if we get any comp picks at all.

Realistically looking at it... Milton, Sweat and White would be the free agents that could get us comp picks. 

I would assume we may resign one or two.... and then also make an outside move for another UFA. 

I'm not thinking comp picks for 2026. 

10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Realistically looking at it... Milton, Sweat and White would be the free agents that could get us comp picks. 

I would assume we may resign one or two.... and then also make an outside move for another UFA. 

I'm not thinking comp picks for 2026. 

Think you are missing some names but it’s all going to be dependent on how guys perform.

Rodger’s the suspended CB from last year actually played well for the colts before hand 

Hennessy another good player that was injured last year

Blankenship though I’d image we look to resign him 

Dont think any of the trio of Milton/Sweat/White return.

Parker/Campbell wouldn’t surprise me if they have a fools gold year as the 4th-5th option in the passing game Wouldn’t bank on them. 
 

Lmao Smith is set to be a FA but obviously he will return. 

also can’t image us spending all that much in 2025 either 

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Think you are missing some names but it’s all going to be dependent on how guys perform.

Rodger’s the suspended CB from last year actually played well for the colts before hand 

Hennessy another good player that was injured last year

Blankenship though I’d image we look to resign him 

Dont think any of the trio of Milton/Sweat/White return.

Parker/Campbell wouldn’t surprise me if they have a fools gold year as the 4th-5th option in the passing game Wouldn’t bank on them. 
 

Lmao Smith is set to be a FA but obviously he will return. 

also can’t image us spending all that much in 2025 either 

But these players need to sign for " qualified amounts "   and then the offset where they match up players lost vs gained in the specific rounds. 

The Eagles will need to sign guys to fill these spots as well.   Just making a point not to count on any comp picks in 2026.  Especially anything over 5th round. 

The comp picks also get awarded in a certain order...only 32 ot them due to losing players... we may qualify,  but not be in the top 32.   

Just alot to go into it.   Besides...I want the cap space to be used, I'm not I'm selling mode.... I think the roster still needs to be built up long term.   I can see us actually making a FA splash next year.   CB especially. 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

But these players need to sign for " qualified amounts " 

And all the players I listed outside of the WRs wouldn’t shock me if they played their way into good contracts next season 

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7 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Tommy tremble might not be a terrible add for TE depth though this would be a move I’d look to make after the draft if we miss out on a TE 

I thought the same,the others seem too expensive for my taste

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5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts has already very clearly proven he’ll beat you with his legs…or his arm. Ran for multiple TDs one week to turn around and throw for multiple the next week.

Except he couldn't do either when the going got tough

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5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Been such a tough trade market. Nobody wanted to give up this year’s draft picks. Reddick is clearly elite. 2026? Should have been a first rounder at that point. No comditions…straight up. Exactly what I was thinking when Rosie was creating this whole trade situation.

Why would they? This is an excellent class for DB's LB's WR's and QB's 

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5 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

The real question now is what does Reddick look like compared to his replacement Huff if they are comparable this coming season the Eagles got a future pick plus the younger player. 

BOOM

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4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

The comp picks also get awarded in a certain order...only 32 ot them due to losing players... we may qualify,  but not be in the top 32.   

Just alot to go into it.   Besides...I want the cap space to be used, I'm not I'm selling mode.... I think the roster still needs to be built up long term.   I can see us actually making a FA splash next year.   CB especially. 

IDK I'm seeing good(possibly great) talent at CB and S well into round 5,which is very weird. Guys like Beau Brade from Maryland,or Jarrian Jones from FL state. Nothing wrong with either of those(and there are others) that with hard work and coaching can become starters in a very short time frame. CB,S class is really outstanding,far from the usual. WR same deal,excellent additions well into round 4. Round 4 is the perfect round to add one for us as the future slot or BU to AJ/Smith. IDK that we take one there,but it's a prime round to do so. Ainias Smith is the best SLOT WR in this draft IMO,but then you have a guy like Malik Washington who can start in the slot and move outside if we need him to,or we lose a player in the distant future. Need to look at Luke McCaffrey as well. he is rough and plays in an iffy league,but he has some talent to exploit. He would also be a nice slot choice that can sit and "wait his turn" since we added Campbell and Parker. So, if we go WR in 4,those are the 3 primary targets I would want to add

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https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2024/consensus-big-board-2024?pos=EDGE New board update. Shows Latu at 26. I'll take him at 22 and be happy I did. They have Bullard for us at 50,I have him at 53,but they are wrong about us taking 2 CB's with the first 2 picks/ Latu,Beebe,then Bullard are my first 3 and better yet we may not have to move for any of them. Showing Beebe at 38 however. We looked at alot of IOL guys on visits and if he goes before 50 we can add one of the others later. If he falls close to 50 we can make a SMALL move, but I don't see Howie moving up alot for him.so they have a BU plan if we don't get him

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