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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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Just now, joemas6 said:

I mean... do you see Huff lining up on running downs between Smith and Davis ?  In the Carter / Cox.... 3-4 DE position from 1987?    

Do you see Josh Sweat lining up next to Davis and inside of Smith on running downs... in the 3-4 DE position from 1982?   

I assume Josh Sweat is listed as a DE and not a LB? 

Brandon Graham ...he played the edge when we had that 3-4 D under Chip....was he listed as LB?  Was Trent Cole listed as LB?  Connor Barwin was...but vs the run did Barwin have a different job than Cole or Graham or was it to set the edge with 3 big dudes in the middle of the DL?

Don't we expect Sweat, Huff, Graham, Smith...to all set the edge in that role vs the run?  Do we expect any of them to double gap inside, next to the NT? 

But hey...the label and listing????

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Was Fletcher Cox listed as DE when we ran the 3-4 under Chip?  

11 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Gets you thinking how we will fare against teams that decide to run on our lineup of Bryce and Nolan

Ok... so again... I'm thinking of a team running on us on early downs... if we have the lineup of Huff and Smith ( I use their last names because I don't have the personal relationships that you do with these players)

I see the early downs as a 3-4 D.

If you are obsessed about how teams run on us in the obvious Nickel passing downs....for me, go ahead and run on 3rd and 8.  That's better than last year when we gave 15 yard cushion on the outside but the LBs kept missing their assignments of covering those out patterns.  Lol.

Cover 3...you LBs need to run from the middle of the field and cover world class NFL athletic WRs on the sideline route.  

Wasn't dumb play calling was the LBs missing those easy assignments. 🤦‍♂️

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I don't, I only see 2 pure G's

Why do we need a " pure G"?

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Stupid to spend a 1 pick on a guy who "will sit a few years" One would be ok but not multiple years. By the time he steps in to start 1/2 his rookie deal is up

Unless he plays G initially and starts for your team there. Which is what I've been hearing about this guy on the local shows.

6 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

Been seeing a lot going for Latu even w/ the injury. Like this guy too;

22. Cooper DeJean, DB, Iowa

What they said: The Eagles need help at corner and safety, and DeJean can play both. Too many have fixated on moving the former Iowa star to safety, but he absolutely has speed and agility to stay at corner, and his 6-1, 200-pound frame makes him an asset outside and in run support. He’s an electric punt returner.

My take on the pick: DeJean (6-1, 207) is a fascinating player because he mostly played corner at Iowa but many see him as a safety in the NFL. The Eagles have never taken a safety in the first round. DeJean had 5 interceptions last year and 2 this past season before an injury ended his 2023 early. Hopefully he’ll be a full-go at the NFL Combine, because he’s expected to have a strong performance. DeJean was also a very good punt returner at Iowa.

Know we go lines, this guy can start on ST's right away. 

One thing is I'm not even sure the starting C is on the team - we've been spoiled for a long time.

So "my takes"  are they your takes MJK or are they a writers?

Because both of the " my takes" seem outdated?   The combine already happened and Driscoll already signed with Miami.

Just copied the rest as a reminder to what's happened. Still po'd about our secondary last yr. Should also remind that dullass is most likely going to be a heavy passing team this yr. I like guys who tackle well, like guys who prevent opponents from getting the ball in the 1st place even better, INT's even more. Looks like a game changing kind of player.

As for the T, only mentioned it as Lane's been mentoring the guy. Can't tell the future but it's a position very few can start at right away. Lane's not getting any younger, been injured and it's a yr early but who better to learn under? Game plan was to lose a G to C as Kelce's replacement as well - if that's still the game plan as not sure if I'm not impressed w/ Kelce's replacement(s) or just spoiled.

16 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Just copied the rest as a reminder to what's happened. Still po'd about our secondary last yr. Should also remind that dullass is most likely going to be a heavy passing team this yr. I like guys who tackle well, like guys who prevent opponents from getting the ball in the 1st place even better, INT's even more. Looks like a game changing kind of player.

As for the T, only mentioned it as Lane's been mentoring the guy. Can't tell the future but it's a position very few can start at right away. Lane's not getting any younger, been injured and it's a yr early but who better to learn under? Game plan was to lose a G to C as Kelce's replacement as well - if that's still the game plan as not sure if I'm not impressed w/ Kelce's replacement(s) or just spoiled.

I'm not sure I understand anything you are saying about the OL?

As for the secondary..I prefer not giving 15 yard cushion on 3rd and 8.  Don't care who you have out there...nobody can stop the other team unless you are actually near the players.  Tough to tackle,  deflect or intercept without being near the receiver.  That's the first thing that needs to be corrected.

As far as being impressed or not with Kelce replacement...  Kelce hasn't missed a game in about 9 years??   So I can't really comment on anyone else playing center for the Eagles as I haven't seen it in a long time! 

 

LB Josh Allen to Jags 5yr/150 mill

Got GB week 1 in Brazil 

2 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

LB Josh Allen to Jags 5yr/150 mill

Love it.... Dallas now has to decide.... 

1.  Pay Parsons the record breaking amount

2.  Pay Lamb the record breaking amount 

3. Pay Dak $60 mil per.

My hope is all 3... then they can continue to not have cap space for another decade.

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8 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Why do we need a " pure G"?

IDK I like a T/G as opposed to another C/G,but whoever works

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK I like a T/G as opposed to another C/G,but whoever works

Right...so you should see more than 2 candidates in round one as an option... if you are open to a T/G guy

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5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I'm not sure I understand anything you are saying about the OL?

As for the secondary..I prefer not giving 15 yard cushion on 3rd and 8.  Don't care who you have out there...nobody can stop the other team unless you are actually near the players.  Tough to tackle,  deflect or intercept without being near the receiver.  That's the first thing that needs to be corrected.

That scheme was AWFUL. even I could complete 7 yard passes and look good doing it

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4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Right...so you should see more than 2 candidates in round one as an option... if you are open to a T/G guy

I will check again. We seem to like drafting C"s and making them G's,but I would like some quick "bulk" blocking for Barkley,so the big strong T's would be the way to go IMO,who could also slide over if Lane got hurt

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I'm still sticking with Latu and looking for a T/G in a later round

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I still like Beebe as the 50 or 53  pick

42 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I will check again. We seem to like drafting C"s and making them G's,but I would like some quick "bulk" blocking for Barkley,so the big strong T's would be the way to go IMO,who could also slide over if Lane got hurt

Right...I absolutely think that's what the Eagles are looking to do.  This kid Lane is mentoring from Oklahoma has been talked about as a possibility of coming in and starting out as a RG before taking over for Lane

10 hours ago, joemas6 said:

You can list them however you want... they are going to play on the edge with 3 big dudes in the middle of the line when it's a 3-4 alignment on the running downs.

Which most likely won’t have anything to do with my statement of Bryce and Nolan being on the field at the same time.

10 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Congrats... let's take away your labels..and your nicknames and live in the real world. 

When you see the Eagles defense on the running downs.... if Smith, Huff, Carter,  Davis and Milton are on the field... how do you see them line up?

I don’t see them lining up on running downs. But I am concerned about teams choosing to run on our pass D with them out there together.

18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Which most likely won’t have anything to do with my statement of Bryce and Nolan being on the field at the same time.

Correct... which you should also not worry about teams running the ball on us in obvious passing downs either ....which was your original comment...so I made my comment in that if it's a running down, both would be playing the edge in a 3-4.

I can't believe after the season we just saw with out 3rd and long pass defense,  that you actually spend Amy time wondering about a team running on us in that situation??? 

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