Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Guys like Fields run because they have to. I count Fields as a running QB also because they can burn you with their legs. Foles couldn't do that,he was too slow

Foles used to play basketball. He was an athletic QB. He could run out and make that catch Brady couldn’t.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes ...no problem scrambling to buy time to throw....with the mindset of pass first.    Running QBs don't have that mindset.

So by your standard Jackson is not a running QB either

Anyway IDK who we choose as DC,but we need to get some damn talent in here in the secondary or anyone will fail

I had to turn off the radio....one station the annoying guy who will talk about how bad 2023 is for another 5 years...the other guy bringing up the article about Hurts and comparing to Wentz. 

It's the new media...you have two winter sports teams doing well, and what should be a look ahead to some changes ( which we should all want ) in the Eagles coaching staff and roster.  Just the gossip channels now.  Awful.

TJ Tampa just keeps growing on me,love hi play style. We need guys like that

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Guys like Fields run because they have to. I count Fields as a running QB also because they can burn you with their legs. Foles couldn't do that,he was too slow

Absolutely Fields is a running QB

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So by your standard Jackson is not a running QB either

Depends how we are describing a running QB I think. Obviously Lamar can run and they design plays to use his legs… But he does crap behind the line more and look to pass instead of just taking off and running when the first or maybe 2nd option isn’t there

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I had to turn off the radio....one station the annoying guy who will talk about how bad 2023 is for another 5 years...the other guy bringing up the article about Hurts and comparing to Wentz. 

It's the new media...you have two winter sports teams doing well, and what should be a look ahead to some changes ( which we should all want ) in the Eagles coaching staff and roster.  Just the gossip channels now.  Awful.

Have to keep their jobs somehow LOL

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Depends how we are describing a running QB I think. Obviously Lamar can run and they design plays to use his legs… But he does crap behind the line more and look to pass instead of just taking off and running when the first or maybe 2nd option isn’t there

It's a thin line between "running QB's" and "QBs who can run". if my QB can get 70 yards a game on the ground then he is a running QB IMO. Allen can also run,so just depends on your definition and we all have different ones

Sadly IDK what Hurts is anymore,complete regress from last year. It was sad to see. he did well vs crap teams but when faced with a good one he just laid down and rolled over

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Because they don't call running plays much,they don't need to,so we disagree,whatever

Lol... you aren't listening to what I'm saying.  

A running QB... doesn't matter the ability to run.   Or the play call.    The running QB is the guy....option 2 is me tucking the ball and running.   Mahomes is a guy that looks pass, first, second, third....then runs to buy time to go look for more passing opportunities. 

Hurts,  Lamar Fields....  they look to keep the ball and run with it before exhausting all the passing options.  It's in their DNA.  Just different mindset. 

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's a thin line between "running QB's" and "QBs who can run". if my QB can get 70 yards a game on the ground then he is a running QB IMO. Allen can also run,so just depends on your definition and we all have different ones

This is why I’m asking the question because it isn’t wrong… if I was asked I’d describe a running QB as someone who’s first instinct is to run… I think a guy like Lamar has gotten a lot better at waiting for the pass to develop instead of just taking off running but obviously is still a dangerous runner as well.

I’d honestly say Lamar is about as close to the perfect dual threat QB as you can get in the nfl 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Lol... you aren't listening to what I'm saying.  

A running QB... doesn't matter the ability to run.   Or the play call.    The running QB is the guy....option 2 is me tucking the ball and running.   Mahomes is a guy that looks pass, first, second, third....then runs to buy time to go look for more passing opportunities. 

Hurts,  Lamar Fields....  they look to keep the ball and run with it before exhausting all the passing options.  It's in their DNA.  Just different mindset. 

And I'm saying our opinions differ,leave it at that

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Foles used to play basketball. He was an athletic QB. He could run out and make that catch Brady couldn’t.

The difference in the ball game....Foles was the better WR.  

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This is why I’m asking the question because it isn’t wrong… if I was asked I’d describe a running QB as someone who’s first instinct is to run… I think a guy like Lamar has gotten a lot better at waiting for the pass to develop instead of just taking off running but obviously is still a dangerous runner as well.

I’d honestly say Lamar is about as close to the perfect dual threat QB as you can get in the nfl 

Yep he evolved. Hurts was last year also,then he regressed back into a deer in headlights,just terrible when it mattered

I would try to pry Wannstedt out of retirement. He is some kind of "analyst" somewhere. We could use the experience

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

And I'm saying our opinions differ,leave it at that

If Mahomes was slower would he be a running QB?

Just now, joemas6 said:

If Mahomes was slower would he be a running QB?

No,but he isn't slower.KC just gives him more opportunities to pass because he isnt pressured. Give him a crap O line like carolina's and he will run because he has to

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I would try to pry Wannstedt out of retirement. He is some kind of "analyst" somewhere. We could use the experience

Be interesting to see how the coaching hires play out obviously we will be told it was all Siri decision publicly…. But I think depending on the hires we could see the Howie/Lurie influence on the hires more or less saying this is who you are getting 

If you put mahomes in Chicago he would have to run for his life just like Fields

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Be interesting to see how the coaching hires play out obviously we will be told it was all Siri decision publicly…. But I think depending on the hires we could see the Howie/Lurie influence on the hires more or less saying this is who you are getting 

Yeah,they said Siri and Howie were "shopping together" which means Howie will tell Siri who he is getting lol

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

No,but he isn't slower.KC just gives him more opportunities to pass because he isnt pressured. Give him a crap O line like carolina's and he will run because he has to

Mahomes has had some bad OL in the past the one SB I remember him running for his life a ton when they lost to the rams I think…. But he still never really looked to run first was always looking to pass 

Mahomes really isn’t all that fast though think he is agile and shifty though…. Just for perspective Mahomes ran a 4.8 40 the same time as Peyton Manning 

I would even look at 'assistants" from the Colts. Their O will be nice when Richardson returns 

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No,but he isn't slower.KC just gives him more opportunities to pass because he isnt pressured. Give him a crap O line like carolina's and he will run because he has to

Being coached by AR had plenty to do with things if you ask me.

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Mahomes has had some bad OL in the past the one SB I remember him running for his life a ton when they lost to the rams I think…. But he still never really looked to run first was always looking to pass 

Mahomes really isn’t all that fast though think he is agile and shifty though…. Just for perspective Mahomes ran a 4.8 40 the same time as Peyton Manning 

So then there are no running QB's because they all look to pass first except maybe Hurts